Yakuza Rich: The Hidden Value of Leonard Davis

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The Hidden Value of Leonard Davis
by Yakuza Rich
http://yakuzarich.blogspot.com


During the combine Cowboys owner Jerry Jones discussed the possibility of life without left tackle Flozell Adams in 2008. Jones brought up the obvious names as replacement in Pat McQuistan, Doug Free and James Marten. But Jones also used a name to the chagrin of most Cowboys fans, Leonard Davis.

From about 2003 to 2006 Davis had played left tackle for the Arizona Cardinals. I wanted to see a comparison looking at Davis’ stats versus Adams’ stats over the years. So I decided to compare Flo vs. Bigg from 2003. Here’s what I did:

Flozell Adams
54 games played (2003 to 2006)
2,035 Passing Attempts during the regular season from Dallas
31.79 passing attempts per game by Dallas (2,035 pass attempts/64 games)
Estimated 1,717 pass attempts in Flo’s 54 games (31.79 pass attempts x 54 games)
21.5 total sacks allowed
Estimated 79.87 pass attempts per sack allowed

Leonard Davis
60 games played (2003 to 2006)
2,283 passing attempts from Arizona (2003-2006)
35.66 pass attempts/game by Arizona (2,283 passing attempts/64 games)
Estimated 2,139 pass attempts in Bigg’s 60 games (35.66 pass attempts x 60 games)
23.5 total sacks allowed
Estimated 91.04 passing attempts per sack allowed.

Contrary to popular opinion, Bigg wasn’t that bad at Left Tackle.

I decided to check out penalties. This time using the same method except using total pass and running attempts instead of just passing attempts.

Flozell Adams
3,992 total attempts (2003-2006)
62.38 total attempts/game (3,992 attempts/64 games)
Estimated 3,368 total attempts in Flo’s 54 games
42 total penalties committed
Estimated 80.2 total attempts per penalty committed


Leonard Davis
3,939 total attempts
61.54 total attempts/game
Estimated 3,693 total attempts in Bigg’s 60 games
35 total penalties committed
Estimated 105.51 total attempts per penalty committed


Now, do I think Bigg is better than Flozell at left tackle? Absolutely not. I also believe that if Flo is to play elsewhere, Bigg will only play left tackle if McQ, Free and Marten stink up the joint.

So why would Jerry Jones bring up a guy like Bigg if he has no intentions of really moving him to left tackle? Because it provides a helluva lot more leverage in future negotiations with Flo than having to rely on players with limited experience like McQ, Free or Marten.

Dallas paid a big contract for Davis’ services, but his presence alone could have its rewards. If Flozell does come back to Dallas, it’s likely at a much lower pay day than he was originally asking for and Davis’ presence is likely a big cause for that. Last year the same scenario happened with starting right tackle Marc Colombo. The Cowboys let him hit the free agency market as they were more than content to have Davis play right tackle if need. So if Flo does re-sign with the Cowboys, this will be the second quality offensive tackle they’ve saved money on because they have Leonard Davis on their roster.




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Wait that can't be right, everyone knows that Davis sucked at LT! :rolleyes:

I still believe he is better suited for OG than for OT but at least if none of our young tackles are ready to start we COULD move Davis out there if Flo doesn't re-sign.
 

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Big Dakota;1970164 said:
Dang good job YR!!!! :bow:

While I would hate to see Bigg move to LT these stats certainly make me feel better about it if it works out that it has to be done.
 

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2007: Leonard Davis breezed to a Probowl start at RG - and before that...

alternate schmalternate. His excellent natural position is at guard. And if you want to ensure his maximum production - YOU will want to see him at guard. He is an elite player at guard. Why would we want to see him reduced to other than an elite player just fill a "gap" - even if it's at OLT.

Address the issue if it arises, but don't pull a dominant player "out of position" to do it.
 

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SuspectCorner;1970362 said:
2007: Leonard Davis breezed to a Probowl start at RG - and before that...

alternate schmalternate. His excellent natural position is at guard. And if you want to ensure his maximum production - YOU will want to see him at guard. He is an elite player at guard. Why would we want to see him reduced to other than an elite player just fill a "gap" - even if it's at OLT.

Address the issue if it arises, but don't pull a dominant player "out of position" to do it.

Because the LT protects our 60 million dollar man's blindside. And some people would rather have BIGG there than McQ or Free.

I dont want Romo getting blindsided by Umenyiora or other top RDE's

But that doesnt mean i want them to move BIGG to LT either. I think McQ is ready to be a solid starter
 

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air0208;1970373 said:
Because the LT protects our 60 million dollar man's blindside. And some people would rather have BIGG there than McQ or Free.

I dont want Romo getting blindsided by Umenyiora or other top RDE's

But that doesnt mean i want them to move BIGG to LT either. I think McQ is ready to be a solid starter

If it comes to that - fine. But if it does - Dallas has lost the battle on TWO FRONTS.

Our OLT doesn't have to be an All-Star. Sure, that's what we'd prefer... but we have a very mobile QB and will be less affected by the impending dropoff, commensurate with Flo's departure, than MOST teams would be.

If Davis doesn't earn a second consecutive Probowl start at RG... then the inaugural year of Hudson Houck's second stint was a huge disappointment.

And I just don't see that happening...
 

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I have been thinking that as well. Hoping is a better term, since I am not wanting to see Bigg at LT.
 

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I don't think we have much leverage when so many teams would throw money at Flo in FA. It comes down to him working out a reasonable contract and his comfort level here.
 

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The problem with this statistical analysis is that it categorizes passing plays into three outcomes: sack, penalty, and other. The other outcome appears to be classified as "good." That's not always the case. There's a big difference between a LT providing 5 seconds of shut down blocking with no missed assignments and no pocket penetration vs. 2 seconds of matador blocking which forces an incompletion, interception, check down to short receiver on third and long, or scramble. You would have to have a lot more film at your disposal to analyze that and give a proper grade.

I'm in no way saying that Davis was worse than Adams in those "other" plays but just pointing out that the above measure is superficial at best.
 

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THUMPER;1970172 said:
Wait that can't be right, everyone knows that Davis sucked at LT! :rolleyes:

I still believe he is better suited for OG than for OT but at least if none of our young tackles are ready to start we COULD move Davis out there if Flo doesn't re-sign.



Hudson Houck knows Bigg.
I am relying on his expertise to put us in the best scenario.
 

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Nice research Rich...

But you're wrong.

Burmashave said he watched Arizona games and he knows that Davis sucked as a LT.

Your thorough research vs one person's non-expert view of a team that I doubt he watched more than a handful of times and never, ever studied the game films?


I think the choice is obvious. :D
 

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lkelly;1970639 said:
The problem with this statistical analysis is that it categorizes passing plays into three outcomes: sack, penalty, and other. The other outcome appears to be classified as "good." That's not always the case. There's a big difference between a LT providing 5 seconds of shut down blocking with no missed assignments and no pocket penetration vs. 2 seconds of matador blocking which forces an incompletion, interception, check down to short receiver on third and long, or scramble. You would have to have a lot more film at your disposal to analyze that and give a proper grade.

I'm in no way saying that Davis was worse than Adams in those "other" plays but just pointing out that the above measure is superficial at best.

..like we all have time for that..right..?


These stats are pretty interesting and heck, even Jerry Jones is probably copy/pasting them as we speak into his contract proposal to Flo.

But I think what's attempting to be said, rather factually, is that BIGG can do it and do it well if required.

Thus proving that 'hidden value' Jones has in having BIGG.

Thats all. The fine factors you allude to are for the coaches to suss out in the film room.

And even if I was sitting and watching, I don't still think I'd be able to make a distinction not being a pro coach.

So thanks for the stats, I'm re-assured. Have been the moment they signed BIGG.

IMO..he's destined for the position.

You do not pay a "G" LT $$ like they are paying BIGG if you didn't intend to use him there eventually if needed.

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