CFZ You Are Not That Good - Draft Players and Make Them Good Players

[Typhus]

You ever heard of the expression easier said than done. It's not like the Cowboys are the only team that have drafted bust in the early rounds.

Besides talent isn't everything. There are several QB's that are more talented than Brady. Jarvis Landry allegedly had no talent. Barry Sanders was more talented than Emmitt. Zeke is more talented than Derrick Henry. So takent isn't everything. I'd say team chemistry is more important than talent.

Alrighty then, carry on with that story.

 

[NotForLong]

Many have been saying the Arlington Jonesboys should do what the Rams did in trading picks and getting Pro Players to have a Super Bowl run.

This will not work because the Arlington Jonesboys are not as good as the 2018 or 2021 Rams being a couple of players away from the Super Bowl. There is no dominate player on the DL especially at DT, There is no dominate player in the secondary. There is no dominate player at QB. There is now no dominate player on the OL. There is no dominate player at WR or TE. There is one dominate player on the team and he is at LB, Micah Parsons.

The issue with Parsons is that you need him at MLB, DE, and OLB to make up for having good players but not dominate player everywhere else.

The Cowboys should stick to the script of building a defense with this draft as they did in 2021. Once they have added more good players, their good players from the 2021 draft will become very good, and one beside Parsons may become dominate. This can be said about the offense. But it took a major step back trading very good possible becoming dominating WR, Amari Cooper. However, the real need is to add to the defense.

Once you have good players, very good players, 1-2 dominating players on offense, and 1-2 on defense, then you can look at adding a dominating player giving away draft picks. Remember the Rams had a Super Bowl team before trading for Stafford, Miller, and when they traded for Ramsey, they did not make the playoffs that year. So they had a dominating RB, DT, on the 2018 Super Bowl Team and then a dominating DT, CB, QB, DE on the 2021 Super Bowl Team all surrounded by good and very good players.

Case in point is why the Cowboys change so quickly to a Super Bowl Team with trading for dominating player Charles Haley. This is because they a drafted good players who became very good players. Having so many of the good draft picks becoming very good, they made the playoffs, and won a wild card game on the road the year before Haley. On offense they had a QB, OL, RB, and WR that were dominating players and acquired them through the draft like the defensive players.

So this Arlington Jonesboys team is not good enough for a Rams trade away draft picks for a Super Bowl strategy. Stay the course on defense and offense drafting good players, have them develop into good players, very good or dominating players. Then when you have a consistent playoff contender, go get your dominating player to get over the hump. It can be done through the draft like the Dallas Cowboys did with Tony Dorsett or trade like Charles Haley only when they were one dominate player away.

Usually the Arlington Jones boys draft some a good player and make them bad players

 

[atlantacowboy]

The Rams model isn't an option b/c we don't have the front office expertise, and we don't really have a system .................which makes plugging in free agents even trickier. This is why you see us take fliers on vets with few other options (reclamation projects) and rely almost exclusively on the draft to improve the talent base.

Meanwhile, the Rams haven't had a first round pick since 2016 and have appeared in 2 of the last 4 Super Bowls. They have adopted the Patriots model of bringing in vets and coaching them up.

 

[john van brocklin]

What are these "like" things, and why are they so important?
Are they a form of crypto currency?

To me it gives a poster some measure of credibility, that other posters give a like.
Kinda like a pat of the back ! LOL

 

[Typhus]

To me it gives a poster some measure of credibility, that other posters give a like.
Kinda like a pat of the back ! LOL

I understand, my sarcasm level was running high when I posted that..

 

[john van brocklin]

I understand, my sarcasm level was running high when I posted that..

No problem and keep posting !!!

 

[Cowpolk]

What are these "like" things, and why are they so important?
Are they a form of crypto currency?

You can trade them for used kitty litter

 

[Typhus]

You can trade them for used kitty litter

@Risen Star has at least a dump truck full of used kitty litter then.

 

[eromeopolk]

A good player in college may not be a good player in the pros. So how do you go about getting these good college players?

Well the Dallas Cowboys drafted good college players when Gil Brandt, Bob Ackles, and John Wooten ran the Dallas Cowboys Personnel department. The did the same with Jimmy Johnson, Bob Ackles, and John Wooten. They did it again with Parcells, and Ireland.

The Cowboys have drafted good college players with Will McClay. However, the biggest difference between the Dallas Cowboys years and the Arlington Jonesboys years is the don't play the players they drafted early and often in their careers. Example - After winning the Super Bowl the Cowboys traded out of the 1st round and drafted Kevin Williams, WR, and Darrin Smith LB. They played them both in heavy rotation even though they had Super Bowl starters a the WR and LB position.

Don't wait until you are a loser to play young talent out of necessity (the Jonesboys way). Get them in the water and see if they can swim.

 

[eromeopolk]

Usually the Arlington Jones boys draft some a good player and make them bad players

Yes, that is whyJimmy Johnson called the Arlington Jonesboys a Country Club. As he told Michael Irvin "what have you done for me lately". You made the Pro Bowl as a Rookie, won rookie of the year, what have you done for me lately should be asked of a lot of players instead of serving Jerry Dumbo GM Jones in the Country Club.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Many have been saying the Arlington Jonesboys should do what the Rams did in trading picks and getting Pro Players to have a Super Bowl run.

This will not work because the Arlington Jonesboys are not as good as the 2018 or 2021 Rams being a couple of players away from the Super Bowl. There is no dominate player on the DL especially at DT, There is no dominate player in the secondary. There is no dominate player at QB. There is now no dominate player on the OL. There is no dominate player at WR or TE. There is one dominate player on the team and he is at LB, Micah Parsons.

The issue with Parsons is that you need him at MLB, DE, and OLB to make up for having good players but not dominate player everywhere else.

The Cowboys should stick to the script of building a defense with this draft as they did in 2021. Once they have added more good players, their good players from the 2021 draft will become very good, and one beside Parsons may become dominate. This can be said about the offense. But it took a major step back trading very good possible becoming dominating WR, Amari Cooper. However, the real need is to add to the defense.

Once you have good players, very good players, 1-2 dominating players on offense, and 1-2 on defense, then you can look at adding a dominating player giving away draft picks. Remember the Rams had a Super Bowl team before trading for Stafford, Miller, and when they traded for Ramsey, they did not make the playoffs that year. So they had a dominating RB, DT, on the 2018 Super Bowl Team and then a dominating DT, CB, QB, DE on the 2021 Super Bowl Team all surrounded by good and very good players.

Case in point is why the Cowboys change so quickly to a Super Bowl Team with trading for dominating player Charles Haley. This is because they a drafted good players who became very good players. Having so many of the good draft picks becoming very good, they made the playoffs, and won a wild card game on the road the year before Haley. On offense they had a QB, OL, RB, and WR that were dominating players and acquired them through the draft like the defensive players.

So this Arlington Jonesboys team is not good enough for a Rams trade away draft picks for a Super Bowl strategy. Stay the course on defense and offense drafting good players, have them develop into good players, very good or dominating players. Then when you have a consistent playoff contender, go get your dominating player to get over the hump. It can be done through the draft like the Dallas Cowboys did with Tony Dorsett or trade like Charles Haley only when they were one dominate player away.

I dont listen to bo omers about anything.

 

[eromeopolk]

I dont listen to bo omers about anything.

What's Bo omers? Boomer Sooner, Baby Boomers, Boomer, and even homers, but you got me with Bo omers.

Well not I am not from Oklahoma, was not born 1946-1964, not a albino haired QB from NY, and if I was a homer, I would be a Saints fan.