You guys kill me.

[LaTunaNostra]

To me people that continuously defend Bledsoe are comical. Have you ever played your favorite CD expecting it to have new songs on it?

That is how I feel about Bledsoe. I have seen what he has to offer and I firmly believe he is not the answer. I do not see how you can call someone a chicken little, sky is falling overreactor when discussing Bledsoe. He has a solid history of doing what every one on here is complaining about.

The QB usually takes the lion's share of the blame for a loss, even when he is not the guiltiest party. Yesterday, there was plenty of blame to spread around.

But Watkins' rookie misjudgement, Greg failing to nail McNabb as Henry flushed him out on that corner blitz, Mac's butter fingers, Witten's "misdirection", and even the middle of the line caving repeatedly to Howard....all pale in significance to Bledsoe's abysmal day.

Yeah, each error impacts another facet of the game. But time and again what could have been a blowout was thwarted by the team effort...you can somewhat compensate and come back from any isolated mistake, and even make up for poor line play (when your QB can indeed sense a blitz, and then act on it by stepping out of the way of it as we saw McNabb do), but no team can survive 60 minutes of terrible QB performance.

Watching McNabb make do with the Hank Baskets of this league, while Bledsoe ponderously hangs onto the ball...don't tell me both Glenn and Owens were smothered all day while the Eagles blitzed. Well, it's insufferable.

A QB that caves under pressure, physical, psychological or both...it's the worst sight to behold. We had to watch McNabb makes things happen for his team..the so-called "inaccurate" QB threading needes and spreading it around, going long and hitting receivers in stride, off blitzes...while our superior weapons were negated not so much by the defensee, but by our own QB play.

McNabb makes everyone around him better. As an elite QB should.

Bledsoe does the opposite, from the line that has to hold off defenders for eons while the QB pats and happy feets around, to the backs who can't always even get the ball handed to them cleanly, to the receivers who would be tearing it up with most any other starting QB...to the defense that has to start in a hole every time there's another pick.

When the team wasn't very good, poor QB play was just part and parcel of the equation. Now it's the block on success.

Too many 'can't do's on Bledsoes resume for a vet QB..can't throw slants, can't master shotguns, can't evade a blitz, can't throw well on the run, can't excel in the short-intermediate game, can't process the field quickly.

All he can do is throw long (which requires little in the way of touch and much less accuracy) , and when that's not there (or he just doesn't see open receivers), it's over.

Nothing has changed from NE or Buffalo.

Nothing.

 

[es22]

Who's fault was the 3-down hand off ? JJ or Bledsoe ? I'm not saying its all Bledsoe Fault but he is the QB kick some ***. I'm used to Staubach being strong on the side line and Akiman screaming at the line. I don't think Drew has the confidence to pull this off. I hope to G-D I'm wrong but from what I see it doesn't look good,
C

by the blocking, it looked like the play was set to go to the right. correct me if i am wrong.

 

[superpunk]

Just kick me in the nuts, next time, LTN. It'll hurt less.

 

[gbrittain]

The QB usually takes the lion's share of the blame for a loss, even when he is not the guiltiest party. Yesterday, there was plenty of blame to spread around.

But Watkins' rookie misjudgement, Greg failing to nail McNabb as Henry flushed him out on that corner blitz, Mac's butter fingers, Witten's "misdirection", and even the middle of the line caving repeatedly to Howard....all pale in significance to Bledsoe's abysmal day.

Yeah, each error impacts another facet of the game. But time and again what could have been a blowout was thwarted by the team effort...you can somewhat compensate and come back from any isolated mistake, and even make up for poor line play (when your QB can indeed sense a blitz, and then act on it by stepping out of the way of it as we saw McNabb do), but no team can survive 60 minutes of terrible QB performance.

Watching McNabb make do with the Hank Baskets of this league, while Bledsoe ponderously hangs onto the ball...don't tell me both Glenn and Owens were smothered all day while the Eagles blitzed. Well, it's insufferable.

A QB that caves under pressure, physical, psychological or both...it's the worst sight to behold. We had to watch McNabb makes things happen for his team..the so-called "inaccurate" QB threading needes and spreading it around, going long and hitting receivers in stride, off blitzes...while our superior weapons were negated not so much by the defensee, but by our own QB play.

McNabb makes everyone around him better. As an elite QB should.

Bledsoe does the opposite, from the line that has to hold off defenders for eons while the QB pats and happy feets around, to the backs who can't always even get the ball handed to them cleanly, to the receivers who would be tearing it up with most any other starting QB...to the defense that has to start in a hole every time there's another pick.

When the team wasn't very good, poor QB play was just part and parcel of the equation. Now it's the block on success.

Too many 'can't do's on Bledsoes resume for a vet QB..can't throw slants, can't master shotguns, can't evade a blitz, can't throw well on the run, can't excel in the short-intermediate game, can't process the field quickly.

All he can do is throw long (which requires little in the way of touch and much less accuracy) , and when that's not there (or he just doesn't see open receivers), it's over.

Nothing has changed from NE or Buffalo.

Nothing.

Mighty mighty fine post there LaTuna. What bothers me is that is so crystal clear except for a few remaining rose colored glasses people.

It just sticks out like a sore thumb. BTW I have indeed been hapring on Bledsoe, but he had help in that loss. You some up it much better though when you point out the overall impact of Bledsoe.

Your post should be mandatory reading for all.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Just kick me in the nuts, next time, LTN. It'll hurt less.

If your nuts could take yesterday, they can take more.

And with Bledsoe, believe me, they will.:laugh2:

 

[justbob]

If your nuts could take yesterday, they can take more.

And with Bledsoe, believe me, they will.:laugh2:

sooo cold ---soooo true

 

[theebs]

The members of this board always overreact whenever the Cowboys lose. If we win, we're going to the superbowl. If we lose, we're a 9-7 team.

The other thing that kills me is that most members are only talking about the QB. I agree that if Bledsoe has a decent game, then we would have won the game. We also would have won the game if the punter didn't have butterfingers, the OL does a half-way decent job of picking up Philly's blitzes, the receivers catch some of the many balls they dropped, or the safeties don't give up so many long pass plays.

The fact is that the entire team played horribly and the team still had a chance to win at the end in an extremely hostile environment. This fact is encouraging. Talentwise, the team is much better than last year. If the entire team can minimize the amount of mistakes, we should enjoy an exciting year.

Let's see how the team looks over the next five games before proclaiming the team dead or superbowl bound.

I applaud you for this post man. Very well said. I would like to add to this if the people here and the cowboys fans around the country are going to pile on bledsoe they are wrong.

Here is the order of blame I would go with
Flozell adams. Absolutely horrendous, he was bad last year when he played and he is miserable this year. Trent cole made him look like a rookie.

Roy Williams-Pat Watkins....they had terrible games. No one was fooled on the flea flicker but the ball is still completed over there head? Terrible play.

Terrel Owens....Absolutely terrible game. He was running bad routes, jogging most of the time, complaining to everyone and then not fighting to break up the bad throws....he is a tired act like aikman said and his whining makes no sense when you put on a display like he did, He is starting to look like a possesion receiver as many warned before he was signed, He hasnt done one thing that stands out this year. If you dont believe me, well believe drew pearson, he broke down owens play last night on nbc5 and said he had a horrible game for the above reasons.

Drew bledsoe-Jason witten....that last play cant happen from veterans who have played together for two years, on 2nd down. If it were 4th down I could see this play, but never on 2nd down....He could have thrown it through the back of the end zone and run another play.

I dont get all the overreacting this morning. This was a tough game for us, the eagles needed 7 sacks and 5 turnovers at home to beat us. That is encouraging to me. They have to come here, and they have to play a tougher schedule from here out so the next time we see them they may be lookin up at us in the standings and we may get to give them the finishing blow.

I am still in bledsoes corner, it is way way too early to even consider a change and frankly adams should be changed before bledsoe is. I think the team is playing well, I could tell in Parcells tone yesterday that he knows this team has got the talent and they will have to make some adjustments.

The thing that worries me going forward is the giants, they are the ones who started stunting and attacking the center last year. They stunted osi and strahan the whole game last year in ny and in dallas then other teams copied it. I believe they will give us the same trouble we saw yesterday protection wise, but I think our defense will play much better at home.

We have to get the next two, and then get two of three on the road and then hit the reset button on the season. IF we get to 6-3, the final 7 games includes 5 at home, including games against detroit and tampa. So getting to 6-3 would set up a great opportunity down the stretch.

Also please remember for all the band wagon jumpers, we lost badly to philly in 92 at their place, and lost a close one at their place in 95. The season is far from over.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I'll admit, that there is widespread overreaction after a loss (guilty as charged).

But, know what, Alt?

We had an opportunity to forcefully demonstrate that we are a team on the rise with this game.

A win here would have put us in the top-tier of the NFC - as far as current talent, and potential to reach the playoffs.

Instead, we are relegated to asking the same questions that have plagued us ever since Parcells arrived here:

• We still have holes in our O-line.
• We still cannot get any pressure on the opposing QB.
• Our secondary (primarily safeties) are prone to give up the big play.
• Our QB is inconsistent, and we have no long-term answer.

It's the same problems, year after year, that are highlighted after every loss.

Overreaction, maybe.

However, if after every loss, you see no signs that the obvious problems are being addressed, maybe the cumulative overreaction actually points to a very logical, level-headed conclusion that the problems have not, and are not being fixed.

very, very, very well said. I think the thread-starter has a point in that there were screw-ups in several areas and not just Bledsoe's,,, but using that to gloss over our obvious QB dilemma won't wash. If your QB is one of your problems, then he is one of your BIGGEST problems because he central to your success. Equally infuriating is the half-hearted attempts to address this OL in the offseason. I openly asked, "Why spend top money on a WR if you can't deliver the ball to him?" I worried that if Owens was PO'd about McNabb's deficiencies, what's it going to be like when he joins The Keystone Cops?

1. The QB falls apart under pressure and commits horrible mistakes. This has to be fixed before the team can move on.

2. The OL has no talent and is severely overmatched against good DLs. This has to be fixed before the team can move on.

I would say the defensive problems are being addressed,, they just ned more time to develop.

 

[Stautner]

I'm not defending him he made some mistakes yesterday but calling for a major change after 4 games into a season is over reaction in my opinion. You make changes in the off-season not at week 4 or 5 in a season this is not training camp. If you feel different then that is your right but I don't agree and will express that view point that is mine.

Are you saying you stick with a player you don't have confidence in just because the season is in progress?

Since when has it ever been a steadfast rule that teams stick with a QB that is playing poorly and watch the team go downhill with him?

I'm not saying Bledsoe should be replaced immediately (I'm not saying he shouldn't either) - but to suggest that we should stick with Bledsoe all year long even if he continues to play this poorly is ridiculous.

 

[Doomsday101]

Are you saying you stick with a player you don't have confidence in just because the season is in progress?

Since when has it ever been a steadfast rule that teams stick with a QB that is playing poorly and watch the team go downhill with him?

I'm not saying Bledsoe should be replaced immediately (I'm not saying he shouldn't either) - but to suggest that we should stick with Bledsoe all year long even if he continues to play this poorly is ridiculous.

Who said I did not have confidence in Bledsoe? who says Parcells does not have confidence in Bledsoe? I think if this team gets to a point where we are not winning games and the organization feels the season is lost then make your moves but to do so at this stage I think would be a mistake.

 

[superpunk]

If your nuts could take yesterday, they can take more.

And with Bledsoe, believe me, they will.:laugh2:

Dhanit JOnes on FSR this morning, in summary -

"They've got Julius Jones, Terry Glenn, Witten, and of course, TO. There's no way any defense has the players to cover that. So you have to go after Bledsoe, he's the one with the ball in his hand every play."

Then, Washiington went on about how effective what the Eagles did was. Jones was tight-lipped, wouldn't share in bashing Bledsoe, but you could tell he agreed with Washington. It was awful to listen to. He's on the rest of the morning, too.

I need some ice.

 

[Aikmaniac]

Theebs, I have to ask...

Have you seen encouraging play from Bledsoe this season? When I say "encouraging", I mean do you think he has what it takes to take this team where it needs to be?

I've seen a QB that in big games against tough defenses simply crumbles and looks completely below average. Bledsoe has the weapons to absolutely annihilate teams that blitz.

 

[gbrittain]

Who said I did not have confidence in Bledsoe? who says Parcells does not have confidence in Bledsoe? I think if this team gets to a point where we are not winning games and the organization feels the season is lost then make your moves but to do so at this stage I think would be a mistake.

So you do have confidence in Bledsoe?

 

[superpunk]

Theebs, I have to ask...

Have you seen encouraging play from Bledsoe this season? When I say "encouraging", I mean do you think he has what it takes to take this team where it needs to be?

I've seen a QB that in big games against tough defenses simply crumbles and looks completely below average. Bledsoe has the weapons to absolutely annihilate teams that blitz.

He hasn't even looked that great against poor defenses, like TEN and WSH. Granted, there were alot of drops vs. WSH, but nothing dominating or even close.

He's just off. It's not like last year.

 

[Hoov]

I understand that other players had their hand in the loss too. The problem i have with bledsoe is that he cannot make any plays under pressure. The qb can make some mistakes under pressure but he also has to make some plays under pressure.

No matter how good you O line is, the good teams will still find a way to generate pressure, which means even if you fix everything else on offense, a good d coordinator with talent will still find a way to pressure bledsoe and then he will give the game away.

Im just tired of excuses for bledsoes play. Other qb's get hurried and sacked too. McNabb making all kinds of plays to wr's that would not even start on most teams, and some of his deep passes he let go right before the rush got to him, so he had some pressure to contend with.

 

[Aikmaniac]

He hasn't even looked that great against poor defenses, like TEN and WSH. Granted, there were alot of drops vs. WSH, but nothing dominating or even close.

He's just off. It's not like last year.

That's precisely my point.

Be prepared. Opponents will not be scared to blitz anymore after yesterday. Would you be?

 

[theebs]

Theebs, I have to ask...

Have you seen encouraging play from Bledsoe this season? When I say "encouraging", I mean do you think he has what it takes to take this team where it needs to be?

I've seen a QB that in big games against tough defenses simply crumbles and looks completely below average. Bledsoe has the weapons to absolutely annihilate teams that blitz.

First bledsoe is what he is, you can attack him for being that.

Yes I have seen encouraging play from him, he picked apart washington. He was tremendous in that game. I look for him to have an outstanding game this week at home. He has been excellent after bad games here. Last years carolina and kansas city games were after bad games and so was this years washington game.

I dont know that we can win the super bowl with bledsoe. I also think this is still a team in progress, have been saying that all year but people just scream at me...

My point is you dont have any recourse for a bad week for Bledsoe because you have no other options.

Me personally if any veteran is going to lose his job it should be flozell adams, he is horrendous. He was barely average last year and he is really struggling right now for whatever reason.

I believe yesterdays game is more indicative of the fight and no quit in our team than the poor.

The eagles needed 7 sacks and 5 turnovers to beat us at home in a game they billed as their superbowl. That is telling to me. We didnt play well as a whole, had penalties and the sacks and turnovers and we were within one play of going to overtime. Many teams would have been beat by 20 in that place yesterday.

I am not ready to overreact yet, especially at QB. He is just the easiest target for the fan who does not want to look at the game rationally.

The bottom line is if you go to Romo, there is no going back.

 

[Doomsday101]

So you do have confidence in Bledsoe?

More than many around here, yes and while I think he has to take some blame on this game I think many others share in this blame with their inability to pick up the blitz. Sorry when I see a QB getting hit after taking his 2nd step on a drop back I have a hard time laying that all on the QB. Howard gave Dallas line fits in that game but yes Drew also made mistakes

 

[Pine Needle]

superbowl talk is for december... drew bungled TWO games to date... two WINS turned to LOSSES on the road, vs good teams.

if, if, if, if, if is irrelevant... to the fact that our QB is a total liability.

there is no IF about the fact that drew won't improve.

That's it buddy. You nailed it.

 

[BulletBob]

First bledsoe is what he is, you can attack him for being that.

Yes I have seen encouraging play from him, he picked apart washington. He was tremendous in that game. I look for him to have an outstanding game this week at home. He has been excellent after bad games here. Last years carolina and kansas city games were after bad games and so was this years washington game.

I dont know that we can win the super bowl with bledsoe. I also think this is still a team in progress, have been saying that all year but people just scream at me...

My point is you dont have any recourse for a bad week for Bledsoe because you have no other options.

Me personally if any veteran is going to lose his job it should be flozell adams, he is horrendous. He was barely average last year and he is really struggling right now for whatever reason.

I believe yesterdays game is more indicative of the fight and no quit in our team than the poor.

The eagles needed 7 sacks and 5 turnovers to beat us at home in a game they billed as their superbowl. That is telling to me. We didnt play well as a whole, had penalties and the sacks and turnovers and we were within one play of going to overtime. Many teams would have been beat by 20 in that place yesterday.

I am not ready to overreact yet, especially at QB. He is just the easiest target for the fan who does not want to look at the game rationally.

The bottom line is if you go to Romo, there is no going back.

Boy that's a funny way to put it. They needed 7 sacks and 5 turnovers to beat us at home?

How about, "They caused 7 sacks and 5 turnovers and beat us at home?"

I do admire your optimism, though. There's glass-half-empty and glass-half-full guys ... whereas your cup runneth over !!!