You have to hope that there is a reassessment going on

[Sydla]

As much as many of you hate Garrett, and there are valid reasons for doing so, I think we could do worse than him. Some of the guys we would like to have as coaches have their own warts you just don't notice them as much.

The really good coaches tend to be real *******s and don't stay in one place long. I would probably let The Clapper stay but I would for sure get rid of Marinelli. The team is good enough to win a SB on offense and the defense is the issue.

I would also make a commitment philosophically to run the ball. If it is spending a high pick or some free agent dollars on an OL so be it. I would make that the identity of this team and would grind teams to death. I would have Jerry give a private mandate to the staff that we WILL be physical and we will run the ball.

I would look to get a pay cut out of Dez and Witten and relegate Witten to spot duty around the goal line as a receiver. Witten would be a cheap situational chain mover and nothing more.

I would spend some draft resources to get a stud #2 running back who could carry the load of Zeke went down and very little quality drop off on rest substitutions for Zeke.

The very best cover corners are only marginal at tackling Zeke. Do you let them blanket Dez I Can't Catch A Cold Bryant or have them tackle Zeke 10 times per game? Which one favors us?

I never really understand the "we could do worse than him" logic. That's really a defeatist and losers way to look at it and pretty much a scared way to go about this.

Because in the end, he would have shown himself to likely be a guy who can't coach this team beyond where he's taken them. I mean isn't that end goal here? Win a SB? Why continue to employ a guy who after 7 seasons isn't within a mile of winning a SB with only one playoff win?

I just don't get people that want to retain someone like that under the guide, "well gee, it could be worse". Honestly, it's kind of bad right now when you realize that there's a decent chance this is another missed season and continues the trend of a Garrett led team being a major disappointment.

 

[TheHerd]

We are one running play away from this post never being created.

Man, I hope not. The clock mismanagement issues are legendary with this group. The lack of understanding game situations is maddening. Win or lose, these have often been issues.

I hate that this team has to overcome these things instead of the coaches helping by making the right decisions.

 

[plasticman]

There is nothing wrong with the Cowboys other than what the majority of posters agreed on prior to the beginning of training camp.

The Cowboys management blew up the secondary because they did not feel that they would get the appropriate amount of productivity consistant with the size of their contracts and market value. They decided to go young. Obviously they considered the repurcussions which is that they would start off the season with untested backups and starters with a history of health issues. They expect young players to improve as they gain experience, again, obvious.

They knew that the defensive line would struggle somewhat due to some suspensions. They expect their draft investment to pay off in the future. Again, they will also improve with experience.

When Hitchens got injured, they were forced to start a rookie coming off what is usually a career ending injury. They were far more realistic than fans and knew he would struggle at first.

The managent of the Cowboys were mever ignorant of the fact that teams would now respect Dak's productivity and gameplan him as if he is a primary factor, which he is. Dak is also absorbing more of the offense and has to get acclimated to that.

Zeke and the team can talk a good tallk but it would take a robot not to be effected by the drama which to him must seem as though almost the entire league, media and fans want him criciified as a symbol of domestic violence. How can you stay focused when you know the most powerful people in football are trying to toss you out of your game?

Anyone who thought the Cowboys could change 40% of the starting offensive line without losing efficiency and cohesion is being unrealistic.The three All Pros played with Doug Free and Ron Leary for four years save for a half season of Leary being replaced at LG by Collins. This familiarity enabled them to develop a rythm, like a fine tuned machine. It takes more time than a quarter of a season ti get back into sync.

Everybody talked before the season about how didficult the schedule would be. Still, the Cowboys were two plays away from being 4-1.

This team has takented youth in key positions. They will get better. The Cowboys will play better.

The management is constantly assessing each player's performance. Reassessing is not necessary, they have always known what we also knew.

 

[Verdict]

I never really understand the "we could do worse than him" logic. That's really a defeatist and losers way to look at it and pretty much a scared way to go about this.

Because in the end, he would have shown himself to likely be a guy who can't coach this team beyond where he's taken them. I mean isn't that end goal here? Win a SB? Why continue to employ a guy who after 7 seasons isn't within a mile of winning a SB with only one playoff win?

I just don't get people that want to retain someone like that under the guide, "well gee, it could be worse". Honestly, it's kind of bad right now when you realize that there's a decent chance this is another missed season and continues the trend of a Garrett led team being a major disappointment.

That's not really what I am saying. Are there better coaches than Garrett? For sure. The Hoodie is one for sure. On the other hand you don't really see his warts because Brady covers up some of them. He isn't infallible.

Do I think The Hoodie would be an improvement over Garrett, probably so. Then again The Hoodie isn't available.

Garrett hasn't proven that he CANT win a super bowl but he hasn't proven he can either. I think a majority of the coaches we might hire would actually be worse than Garrett for various reasons.

We have shown improvement under Garrett. Is it enough? No but that's largely because of the defense. I put that on Marinelli, not Garrett.

Garrett has mannerisms that are annoying as hell. He has made ****** mistakes. But he is a smart guy and I think he becomes a better coach every year.

My biggest criticism of Garrett right now is forcing the ball to Dez, letting Witten play every down and refusing to play guys based on what I personally believe is merited play.

 

[bysbox1]

You have to start with the DC. The game has clearly passed Marinelli by. He has been in Dallas 5 or so years and hjs defense is worse than ever.

The defensive system needs to be modernized and we need a guy to get the maximum from the players we have. We need a Cowboys version of Jim Schwartz.

A special teams coach may need to be replaced. Other than Bailey, there is nothing special about it.

Garrett needs to go and they need to bring in a HC and allow him to pick his own staff. 8 years is enough. Actually 8 years is ridiculous. He was not going to get anywhere when he was hired, and he's not going anywhere now.

 

[Sydla]

That's not really what I am saying. Are there better coaches than Garrett? For sure. The Hoodie is one for sure. On the other hand you don't really see his warts because Brady covers up some of them. He isn't infallible.

Do I think The Hoodie would be an improvement over Garrett, probably so. Then again The Hoodie isn't available.

Garrett hasn't proven that he CANT win a super bowl but he hasn't proven he can either. I think a majority of the coaches we might hire would actually be worse than Garrett for various reasons.

We have shown improvement under Garrett. Is it enough? No but that's largely because of the defense. I put that on Marinelli, not Garrett.

Garrett has mannerisms that are annoying as hell. He has made ****ty mistakes. But he is a smart guy and I think he becomes a better coach every year.

My biggest criticism of Garrett right now is forcing the ball to Dez, letting Witten play every down and refusing to play guys based on what I personally believe is merited play.

For one, it would be more than "probably so" on Belicheck being better than Garrett.

Two, the whole hasn't proven he can't versus can win the SB is applicable to every coach alive. You never know with certainty but you can be pretty damn close to being right as evidence mounts. We have 8 years of evidence now on Garrett.

Three, I quibble with the idea that we've shown "improvement" with Garrett. What we've shown is inconsistency. That's his hallmark. There is no real upward trend here. You have a rollercoaster ride going on.

Frankly, I don't care about his mannerisms or how he talks or whatever. I only care about his coaching. And to date, he's shown himself to be nothing more than maybe a slightly above average coach who appears to be good enough to not get fired but not good enough to actually achieve something meaningful.

He's 8 years into being a head coach. This whole idea that he's still learning and will get better is comical to me. 8 years. I mean how much time does he need to learn? Shoot, it takes less time to produce surgeons who save lives in than it apparently is taking Garrett how to learn to be a great coach.

Is there going to be a breaking point with you? You would like to think that missing the playoffs after a 13-3 season might be a breaking point, but I seriously think many of you will find ways to excuse Garrett if this season continues sideways.