You know I hope we don't rue the day we signed TO

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i was jumping up and down the day we grabbed him - I got even more excited when IMO we fixed out OL...I was even happier that the deal was very fair money wise...
But now I keep seeing all these people telling me it's only a matter of time before TO an BP clash i.e. Golic etc...
Then I see TO on Bryant Gumble on HBO and I'm like this guy is a definite flake...
Now - I'm ruelly worried about sidelines antics etc....
 

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X-Dawg said:
i was jumping up and down the day we grabbed him - I got even more excited when IMO we fixed out OL...I was even happier that the deal was very fair money wise...
But now I keep seeing all these people telling me it's only a matter of time before TO an BP clash i.e. Golic etc...
Then I see TO on Bryant Gumble on HBO and I'm like this guy is a definite flake...
Now - I'm ruelly worried about sidelines antics etc....
Join the watch bud...there are a lot of us in that boat waiting for the other shoe to drop with Owens. I do want to get the one good year that I expect from him before he blows but who knows. And anything over one year will be gravey.
 

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I'm not worried, to be honest. If he blows up, so what? This wasn't a Super Bowl team without him. As others have said here, this isn't a high-risk signing in that sense. What's he going to do, prevent us from finishing third in the division again with a slightly-better-than .500 record?

Replace TO with Keyshawn Johnson or Eric Moulds, and I'm not sure I like our chances this season. With TO, at least there's that chance that his performance on the field will outweigh his mouth on and off it.

Parcells is, what, .333 in making the playoffs so far? Ugh. This squad needed to take a chance. And I like the chance we've taken because, like I said, I don't think the risk is all that high considering where we've been the last two years.
 

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Dale said:
I'm not worried, to be honest. If he blows up, so what? This wasn't a Super Bowl team without him. As others have said here, this isn't a high-risk signing in that sense. What's he going to do, prevent us from finishing third in the division again with a slightly-better-than .500 record?

Replace TO with Keyshawn Johnson or Eric Moulds, and I'm not sure I like our chances this season. With TO, at least there's that chance that his performance on the field will outweigh his mouth on and off it.
Um - I'm not sure what you're saying - with him playing well we have a SB shot? but if he blows up so what?
 

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I agree with Dale. A move like this might win us a couple games, and 11-5 sounds much better than 9-7. And the risk is almost nil.
 

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i cant wait to see him catch that first touchdown. Thats gonna be sweet.
 

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I agree with Dale. A move like this might win us a couple games, and 11-5 sounds much better than 9-7. And the risk is almost nil.
Yes and you and Dale will be right...unless or until Owens blows up. Then with the team in total disarray and going 6-10 again there will be all manner of bemoaning (not to mention ruing) the decision to sign him. The forum will be filled with post saying "I can't believe he did this to us!!"

So if/when it happens just remember, "We knew what he was when we picked him up"
 

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JackMagist said:
Yes and you and Dale will be right...unless or until Owens blows up. Then with the team in total disarray and going 6-10 again there will be all manner of bemoaning (not to mention ruing) the decision to sign him. The forum will be filled with post saying "I can't believe he did this to us!!"

So if/when it happens just remember, "We knew what he was when we picked him up"

But that's exactly my point, Jack. What's the risk even if he does blow up? We go 6-10 instead of 8-8?

Like I said, I didn't see this team being playoff caliber until we signed him. Had we just stood pat at receiver with Keyshawn I thought there might have been an outside shot, at best.

That's why I don't see the huge risk even if he does erupt. So instead of finishing third in the division with a 9-7 mark, we finish last at 6-10? Whoopty do.

I support the move because I believe this team was in desperate need of trying something along these lines. Parcells is barely above .500 since coming here and is only hitting .333 when it comes to making the playoffs. That may be a nice average in baseball, but not in this context.

I entirely see the downside involved here. I just won't "rue" the day we signed him if he does erupt because I didn't think we were going to be any better than average without him.

At least now, given his talent, there's a chance to do something in the postseason "if" things go well.

Just my .02.
 

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But that's exactly my point, Jack. What's the risk even if he does blow up? We go 6-10 instead of 8-8?

Like I said, I didn't see this team being playoff caliber until we signed him. Had we just stood pat at receiver with Keyshawn I thought there might have been an outside shot, at best.

That's why I don't see the huge risk even if he does erupt. So instead of finishing third in the division with a 9-7 mark, we finish last at 6-10? Whoopty do.

I support the move because I believe this team was in desperate need of trying something along these lines. Parcells is barely above .500 since coming here and is only hitting .333 when it comes to making the playoffs. That may be a nice average in baseball, but not in this context.

I entirely see the downside involved here. I just won't "rue" the day we signed him if he does erupt because I didn't think we were going to be any better than average without him.

At least now, given his talent, there's a chance to do something in the postseason "if" things go well.

Just my .02.
I understand your "miss is as good as a mile" premise. The worst it can do is give us a higher draft pick, right?

Unless of course the year we spend recovering from the TO ****storm would otherwise have been the year that we would have put it all together and won without him. That is the risk...that is the factor (unverifiable though it would be) that bothers me.
 

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Dale said:
Parcells is, what, .333 in making the playoffs so far? Ugh. This squad needed to take a chance. And I like the chance we've taken because, like I said, I don't think the risk is all that high considering where we've been the last two years.

Super Bowls Bill Parcells has won without Bill Belichick as defensive coordinator - ZERO and its going to stay that way.
 

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Super Bowls Bill Parcells has won without Bill Belichick as defensive coordinator - ZERO and its going to stay that way.
Hmmm...same number that Gibbs has won without Earhart (sp?).

Go home :skins:
 

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Super Bowls Bill Parcells has won without Bill Belichick as defensive coordinator - ZERO and its going to stay that way.

Spare me with the simplistic thinking, please.

You're the type that give teenagers a bad name.
 

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Super Bowls Bill Parcells has won without Bill Belichick as defensive coordinator - ZERO and its going to stay that way.

Go back to your incredible team of winners, see if sean taylor is off house arrest, and stop by Mark Brunells house on your way home to give him his Geritol..... go play with youre toys little boy...:chainsaw:
 

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JackMagist said:
I understand your "miss is as good as a mile" premise. The worst it can do is give us a higher draft pick, right?

Unless of course the year we spend recovering from the TO ****storm would otherwise have been the year that we would have put it all together and won without him. That is the risk...that is the factor (unverifiable though it would be) that bothers me.

True. It's hard for me to look too far into the future, though, given the age of our coach (and my fear of who will replace him). Maybe that is jading my outlook.
 

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I'm not worried about TO and Parcells. I'm worried about TO on a team without Parcells (or someone just as forceful). 2007 is the "be afraid" year.
 

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Dale said:
I'm not worried, to be honest. If he blows up, so what? This wasn't a Super Bowl team without him. As others have said here, this isn't a high-risk signing in that sense. What's he going to do, prevent us from finishing third in the division again with a slightly-better-than .500 record?

Replace TO with Keyshawn Johnson or Eric Moulds, and I'm not sure I like our chances this season. With TO, at least there's that chance that his performance on the field will outweigh his mouth on and off it.

Parcells is, what, .333 in making the playoffs so far? Ugh. This squad needed to take a chance. And I like the chance we've taken because, like I said, I don't think the risk is all that high considering where we've been the last two years.
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i was gonna post the exact same thing. if we were a team like lets say the Eagles that made it 3 years in a row to the NFC championship game and then we got T.O then maybe i would be worried because we would already be a great team and to get a player that could make or break us would be foolish. but here i see no risk because we have pretty much been broke the last decade, but now with him we have the potential of going from a solid team to a great team with of course help from other signings and draft picks we made.
 

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JackMagist said:
I understand your "miss is as good as a mile" premise. The worst it can do is give us a higher draft pick, right?

Unless of course the year we spend recovering from the TO ****storm would otherwise have been the year that we would have put it all together and won without him. That is the risk...that is the factor (unverifiable though it would be) that bothers me.

But you can never predict things like that. You never know if we would have broken through without a big-time offensive star like that, so you might as well go ahead with it, y'know?
 
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