You must outscore teams in todays NFL

[Darthkuriboh]

You've always had to outscore other teams to win... in every sport... smh

I was thinking this, too

 

[Darthkuriboh]

Not golf

Golf isn’t a sport

 

[JustChip]

Not golf

Still do in golf - it’s just how the score is tabulated.

 

[Motorola]

Yes, that is the NFL now. We couldn't really stop Philly, but they had a hard time stopping us also. So we won by single digits.

The four turnovers the Cowboys got helped a lot.

 

[JustChip]

You’ve always had to outscore teams. I don’t think there was ever an era where the team with fewer points won. lol

Well, there was a time in Texas High School playoffs that you could win without scoring more. No sudden death or OT in case of a tie. Went with tiebreakers like # of penetrations, the number of 1st downs, total yardage gained, etc.

 

[Reid1boys]

Swiiiiiiiiinnggg and a miss. By several of you guys.

It takes balance, in general. Must have O and D to win a super bowl. If you can't stop the other team, you're not winning the super bowl.

And with all the scoring, it still comes down to D. The last super bowl winner, Rams, scored 23. The Bengals got there by playing nasty shut down D in the 4th vs the Chiefs. And the Bengals scored less than 30 in all of their playoff games. Beat TENN by scoring 19.

Rams scored less than 30 in their last two playoff games.

Yes, you must be able to score, but if you can't make D stops your scoring becomes irrelevant.

so what is good defense?? obviously 10... lets try 20? 24? 27? when does it cross the line from good to avg to bad d?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Lets look at the top 6 teams in the NFL in no order: Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, Niners, Eagles and Cowboys. Everyone of those teams, except the Niners can put up 40 points in any given game and nobody would be surprised. BUT, the Niners have clearly the best defense in football. It is just like I say in regards to you need a top qb to win a SB(Not every time... so dont be foolish) but the teams that typically have won a SB that dont have a HOF type qb, have had a 49er type defense.

It is no secret that the top 3 AFC teams have the top 3 QBs. I think 2 of the top NFC teams also have 2 of the top QBs in the NFC.

I thought we finally had a dominant defense, but these last several games have shown otherwise.... at least we can keep up with all of them AND have a defense that can turn it over. This will be interesting to see how things shape up moving forward.... but you better score.

Only if your defense sucks. The better teams are the one that have a great defense to go along with it.

 

[kskboys]

so what is good defense?? obviously 10... lets try 20? 24? 27? when does it cross the line from good to avg to bad d?

10ish, but even more important is the ability to disrupt the pocket, make 3rd down stops, and pressure the opposing QB.

 

[offlimits]

Lets look at the top 6 teams in the NFL in no order: Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, Niners, Eagles and Cowboys. Everyone of those teams, except the Niners can put up 40 points in any given game and nobody would be surprised. BUT, the Niners have clearly the best defense in football. It is just like I say in regards to you need a top qb to win a SB(Not every time... so dont be foolish) but the teams that typically have won a SB that dont have a HOF type qb, have had a 49er type defense.

It is no secret that the top 3 AFC teams have the top 3 QBs. I think 2 of the top NFC teams also have 2 of the top QBs in the NFC.

I thought we finally had a dominant defense, but these last several games have shown otherwise.... at least we can keep up with all of them AND have a defense that can turn it over. This will be interesting to see how things shape up moving forward.... but you better score.

Just commenting on the OP's headline... It has been about outscoring the other team for 25 years. The modern NFL is all about favoring the offense. I remember the 70's when defensive backs could hang/bang on receivers, running routes, the entire game. No penalty.

 

[Motorola]

Well, there was a time in Texas High School playoffs that you could win without scoring more. No sudden death or OT in case of a tie. Went with tiebreakers like # of penetrations, the number of 1st downs, total yardage gained, etc.

Back in the previous century.
Offhand - I think the penetrations and other non-scoring factors in playoffs were eliminated by the Texas UIL in the late 1970s.

 

[kskboys]

Back in the previous century.
Offhand - I think the penetrations and other non-scoring factors in playoffs were eliminated by the Texas UIL in the late 1970s.

80s or 90s.

 

[JustChip]

Back in the previous century.
Offhand - I think the penetrations and other non-scoring factors in playoffs were eliminated by the Texas UIL in the late 1970s.

I couldn’t remember when that changed, but my brother-in-law played QB on a team with Lovie Smith in the mid-70s that won something like 54 out of 55 games. The lone non-win was a tie in a State Championship game. But both coaches agreed beforehand to be Co-Champions instead of going the tiebreaker route.

 

[Motorola]

I could remember when that changed, but my brother-in-law played QB on a team with Lovie Smith in the mis-70s that won something like 54 out of 55 games. The lone non-win was a tie in a State Championship game. But both coaches agreed beforehand to be Co-Champions instead of going the tiebreaker route.

And yet today ...major college football handles tie games after the 4th quarter with a sham "overitme"
° start on the opponents 25-yard line
° after a certain number of posessions, a TD score requires the team to go for the 2pt conversion--
--it wasn't there at the beginning
--then after several seasons, it was required after the 3rd(4th?) "overtime" possession
-- now... is it after a second OT TD score-- a team has to go for two?

 

[Motorola]

Golf isn’t a sport

How is it not - clue the masses in...

 

[JustChip]

And yet today ...major college football handles tie games after the 4th quarter with a sham "overitme"
° start on the opponents 25-yard line
° after a certain number of posessions, a TD score requires the team to go for the 2pt conversion--
--it wasn't there at the beginning
--then after several seasons, it was required after the 3rd(4th?) "overtime" possession
-- now... is it after a second OT TD score-- a team has to go for two?

I hate the college OT. You play all game under one set of rules/conditions and go with a rinky dink system for OT. I much prefer the NFL system and don’t have an issue with a tie except in a playoff game.

 

[Motorola]

I hate the college OT. You play all game under one set of rules/conditions and go with a rinky dink system for OT. I much prefer the NFL system and don’t have an issue with a tie except in a playoff game.

Over the last dozen seasons / two decades \ however long it's been - in college foothall
___watched 17-17 ties become 43-42 free-for-alls
___seen 28-28 games at regulation's end become basketball scores ---49-45 or 55-22.
RIDICULOUS

 

[Wangchung83]

NO its team game and team win but stating facts

they still allowed some pretty easy chunk yards and scores. they didnt give dak 4 pick sixes did they?? dak and the offense still needed to score. not sure where you are going with this defense did get the TOS they needed too,

if not it their fault we needed to score so much so in between all those yards and points, they got Those plays and that great but think deeper, they whether were getting torched or getting T/O, no sacks etc they were being picked apart by the Stash, not hurts,

you get that right if they didn't get it turned over , they were the ones allowing the big scores. Get it yet ??if they dont get those TOS we lose 50-30 because they weren't bot getting stops in between those

Our offense had no issues moving the ball and scoring so they could have won a normal game but it became necessary to win high scoring game because of a boom or bust inconsistent defense. they helped themselves LOL that's great but it doesn't dismiss them from the bad drives in between,

they blew a 14 point lead in GB, a 17 point lead in Jags, also gave up 246 yards to bears run game, GB game same thing. Just saying they need to tighten this up..

Complete nonsense, you understand that right. 4 extra processions dak and offense failed to convert on short fiends as stated. Defense didn’t give up 34 pt they gave up 27 the last time I looked. Dak pick six is on him and him alone.