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[RonWashington]

Having watched Guyton now for almost an entire season I have no doubt he can start and improve as year 2 looms for the big guy .

Remember he’s gone up against some premier edge rushers out of Cleveland Pittsburgh SF and Guyton held his own .

Two questions I have is if you move him to RT to take some pressure off him I’m not opposed to that but it means Tyler Smith is the permanent LT no more moving him around .

Or leave him at LT but that means Steele remains a starter which makes the OL weaker .

The situation that baffles me is starting Edoga down the stretch . Guyton unless injured needs all these reps right before a long vacation starts .

I think he’s your RT for the future with Bass & Beebe as your guards Hoffman center Tyler Smith premier LT. And for those critics of Will McClay that’s 2 starting OL out of last yrs draft plus a Tyler Smith home run pick in the past remaking what was getting to be an aging OL

 

[ShiningStar]

I personally feel a new OC coach has to come in, the draft and FA are going to be important.

if the Cowboys dont spend, dont expect much out of the year, if they do, than the next coach and OC coach have got to settle on a line for the future. AND Depth has got to be considered, the NFL has got to look at depth now.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Jerry will determine this without evening talking to the coaches, uhhh umm uhh he's had a lot of success playing at the LT spot we really think highly of him he's a great player and I really mean that lol

 

[diamonddelts]

Trash heap

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I personally feel a new OC coach has to come in, the draft and FA are going to be important.

if the Cowboys dont spend, dont expect much out of the year, if they do, than the next coach and OC coach have got to settle on a line for the future. AND Depth has got to be considered, the NFL has got to look at depth now.

Yeah I’m not saying spend 100 million in free agency but you can’t go into next season thinking you don’t have to improve your team. Gotta get some help in here.

 

[cowboyec]

i think guyton stays at LT.
hoffman probably looked as the replacement for zack martin.
i'd like to see them draft terrence steele's replacement early.
but there are other priority needs.
if mccarthy is back...steele probably keeps that RT spot.
maybe then a healthy asim richards can make a push for that spot.
i will say tho steele has played better of late.

if they were to look at the draft...
•kelvin banks,texas
•josh simmons,ohio st
•ajani cornelius,oregon

donovan jackson is a og at ohio st who filled in at ot for simmons and anchored well.
he would be a nice pick up...versatile piece along the oline...rd2 or 3 probably.

 

[gimmesix]

Having watched Guyton now for almost an entire season I have no doubt he can start and improve as year 2 looms for the big guy .

Remember he’s gone up against some premier edge rushers out of Cleveland Pittsburgh SF and Guyton held his own .

Two questions I have is if you move him to RT to take some pressure off him I’m not opposed to that but it means Tyler Smith is the permanent LT no more moving him around .

Or leave him at LT but that means Steele remains a starter which makes the OL weaker .

The situation that baffles me is starting Edoga down the stretch . Guyton unless injured needs all these reps right before a long vacation starts .

I think he’s your RT for the future with Bass & Beebe as your guards Hoffman center Tyler Smith premier LT. And for those critics of Will McClay that’s 2 starting OL out of last yrs draft plus a Tyler Smith home run pick in the past remaking what was getting to be an aging OL

I think both because of injury and inconsistency Dallas decided to slow down with Guyton. (Maybe if Edoga had not been injured that would have been the plan from the start). Frankly, I think you give him all the reps now (and should have been).

However, a player you didn't mention would be in the mix at left tackle for me, and that's Asim Richards. I'd look to move Guyton to RT and give Richards first shot at LT. If Richards slips, then Smith would be the nuclear option. I like settling out the line from among these six -- Richards, Smith, Beebe, Hoffman, Bass and Guyton -- and seeing what we can get for Steele in a trade (if we could get a WR or an RB, I'd be all for that).

 

[RonWashington]

Trash heap

You think Guyton is a “ trash heap “ ? Ok

 

[ShiningStar]

Id also start playing guys and finding out what you got.

Screw the season and play some guys see how they do

 

[thunderpimp91]

Let me preface this by saying I do think another offseason trying to get stronger could help Guyton have a better year in year 2. With that said though I really struggle to see the optimism on the kid with his play from his rookie season. Tyler Guyton was among the worst Tackles in all of football this season. The idea that he’s held his own against the best edge rushers is a little misleading as well. He’s had some solid games, SF comes to mind, but for the most part Guyton has been going up against teams #2 guy. Week 1 against Cleveland I believe Guyton only went against Myles Garrett for about 12 snaps or so.

There isn’t a player I’ve soured on more this year than Guyton. He certainly has the physical tools to make me look foolish with that comment but his play this year has been awful and him not getting snaps last week tells me there may be more issues behind the scenes.

 

[RonWashington]

I think both because of injury and inconsistency Dallas decided to slow down with Guyton. (Maybe if Edoga had not been injured that would have been the plan from the start). Frankly, I think you give him all the reps now (and should have been).

However, a player you didn't mention would be in the mix at left tackle for me, and that's Asim Richards. I'd look to move Guyton to RT and give Richards first shot at LT. If Richards slips, then Smith would be the nuclear option. I like settling out the line from among these six -- Richards, Smith, Beebe, Hoffman, Bass and Guyton -- and seeing what we can get for Steele in a trade (if we could get a WR or an RB, I'd be all for that).

Good analysis. I didn’t mean to leave Richards out was just thinking he was depth. Sure he can start at LT switch Guyton to RT that’s not a bad option at all . Then your guards are Hoffman Smith with Beebe at C . Bass & Steeie depth plus Thomas the 7th rounder from this last draft .

To be honest with the Smith Beebe Guyton picks plus some of the UDFA success Dallas has had in the OL I’ve always thought the 25 draft needs to get help on the defensive side of the ball and RB .

Have not considered a high OL pick for this coming draft at all .

 

[RonWashington]

Let me preface this by saying I do think another offseason trying to get stronger could help Guyton have a better year in year 2. With that said though I really struggle to see the optimism on the kid with his play from his rookie season. Tyler Guyton was among the worst Tackles in all of football this season. The idea that he’s held his own against the best edge rushers is a little misleading as well. He’s had some solid games, SF comes to mind, but for the most part Guyton has been going up against teams #2 guy. Week 1 against Cleveland I believe Guyton only went against Myles Garrett for about 12 snaps or so.

There isn’t a player I’ve soured on more this year than Guyton. He certainly has the physical tools to make me look foolish with that comment but his play this year has been awful and him not getting snaps last week tells me there may be more issues behind the scenes.

I’ve thought about the “ issues “ behind the scenes as well . It’s drastic to take a marginal player like Edoga and start him over your # 1 draft pick . I would have started Richards over Edoga if that’s the case .

Having said that in watching the OL it seems more dominant & functions better when Guyton is at LT and the Edoga types are spectators .

I’m thinking back to the Chaz Green episode when Garrett left him in to get abused for 5 sacks in one game against the Falcons .

Guyton has gone up against Watt in Pitts Bosa in SF and yes Myles Garrett Cleveland and more than held his own . The dude is a huge untapped talent I think an entire change in OC plus OL coach and yes HC would work wonders for the entire offense .

 

[Bigrandrn]

I think both because of injury and inconsistency Dallas decided to slow down with Guyton. (Maybe if Edoga had not been injured that would have been the plan from the start). Frankly, I think you give him all the reps now (and should have been).

However, a player you didn't mention would be in the mix at left tackle for me, and that's Asim Richards. I'd look to move Guyton to RT and give Richards first shot at LT. If Richards slips, then Smith would be the nuclear option. I like settling out the line from among these six -- Richards, Smith, Beebe, Hoffman, Bass and Guyton -- and seeing what we can get for Steele in a trade (if we could get a WR or an RB, I'd be all for that).

Agree about Richards….been wanting to seem play for a good stretch at LT and have Guyton at his natural RT position. i don’t remember Richards looking bad at all in his limited time on the left side. Maybe Hoffman at C since he’s not as strong as Beebe and put Beebe at G? I wish we could have figured Richards and for sure our G and C people the last 6-7 games since Zach has been out. Golden opportunity to really test what we have and it went to **** lol.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Having watched Guyton now for almost an entire season I have no doubt he can start and improve as year 2 looms for the big guy .

Remember he’s gone up against some premier edge rushers out of Cleveland Pittsburgh SF and Guyton held his own .

Two questions I have is if you move him to RT to take some pressure off him I’m not opposed to that but it means Tyler Smith is the permanent LT no more moving him around .

Or leave him at LT but that means Steele remains a starter which makes the OL weaker .

The situation that baffles me is starting Edoga down the stretch . Guyton unless injured needs all these reps right before a long vacation starts .

I think he’s your RT for the future with Bass & Beebe as your guards Hoffman center Tyler Smith premier LT. And for those critics of Will McClay that’s 2 starting OL out of last yrs draft plus a Tyler Smith home run pick in the past remaking what was getting to be an aging OL

You nailed it brother! I love what you are preaching!

 

[RonWashington]

Speaking of OL play at C vs Wash Biadasz who Quinn took in FA . Broadcast team mentioned a play where the Wash C didn’t execute the blocking scheme resulting in a busted play .

Daniels was under pressure the entire game some of it from the middle , Rush was rarely harassed I thought he played with a clean pocket most of the game plus he makes quick decisions not wanting to get trapped .


A good decision by Dallas to go with another C in 2024 and not overpay Biadasz.

 

[DuncanIso]

i think guyton stays at LT.
hoffman probably looked as the replacement for zack martin.
i'd like to see them draft terrence steele's replacement early.
but there are other priority needs.
if mccarthy is back...steele probably keeps that RT spot.
maybe then a healthy asim richards can make a push for that spot.
i will say tho steele has played better of late.

if they were to look at the draft...
•kelvin banks,texas
•josh simmons,ohio st
•ajani cornelius,oregon

donovan jackson is a og at ohio st who filled in at ot for simmons and anchored well.
he would be a nice pick up...versatile piece along the oline...rd2 or 3 probably.

Steele likely a post June cut.

 

[DuncanIso]

Speaking of OL play at C vs Wash Biadasz who Quinn took in FA . Broadcast team mentioned a play where the Wash C didn’t execute the blocking scheme resulting in a busted play .

Daniels was under pressure the entire game some of it from the middle , Rush was rarely harassed I thought he played with a clean pocket most of the game plus he makes quick decisions not wanting to get trapped .


A good decision by Dallas to go with another C in 2024 and not overpay Biadasz.

Biadasz is solid.

We just couldn’t afford him.

Dude was all American/all conf/pro bowl.

 

[RonWashington]

Biadasz is solid.

We just couldn’t afford him.

Dude was all American/all conf/pro bowl.

Beebe will be much better and under rookie contract if not Hoffman . Either one upgrade

 

[thunderpimp91]

I’ve thought about the “ issues “ behind the scenes as well . It’s drastic to take a marginal player like Edoga and start him over your # 1 draft pick . I would have started Richards over Edoga if that’s the case .

Having said that in watching the OL it seems more dominant & functions better when Guyton is at LT and the Edoga types are spectators .

I’m thinking back to the Chaz Green episode when Garrett left him in to get abused for 5 sacks in one game against the Falcons .

Guyton has gone up against Watt in Pitts Bosa in SF and yes Myles Garrett Cleveland and more than held his own . The dude is a huge untapped talent I think an entire change in OC plus OL coach and yes HC would work wonders for the entire offense .

Yeah I'm doing nothing but assuming here, but McCarthy had a quote a couple weeks ago on Guyton about him just needing to be more available. I wonder if Guyton and the team had different feelings on his injury status when he was missing time? Thats always something that can get a young player in the doghouse quick if the coaches feel they are trying to duck practice with a bad excuse.

Richards is on the IR, but I believe was just put on the designated to return list so they might try to get him a start before the season is over? I'm actually very high on Richards and would love to see it. We have a very small sample size to go off of but he made a very good impression in the limited snaps hes gotten this year. I wouldnt be surprised at all to see him push for a starting role in 2025, good name to keep an eye on.

Where we disagree is simply on the play of Guyton. If we are talking about overall potential I agree, and I'm not saying you give up on him yet, but as far as his play in 2024 I really dont see a big difference from what Edoga has done. In fact with the penalties factored in Edoga has probably given the Cowboys better production. He did have a pretty solid game against the 49ers, but I would have to go back and check how many snaps he actually had against Bosa. Against Cleveland Myles Garrett made Guyton look exactly like a week 1 rookie and that was in very few snaps. Honestly it was Steele that mostly held Garrett in check that day, along with Dak simply getting the ball out at a crazy fast rate. Guyton really didnt do much against Pittsburgh either, and only played a few drives before he left the game. Guyton has simply been a liability for most of the year.

 

[Creeper]

I have not given up on Guyton but I think he needs to get stronger in the off-season, especially in the upper body. He struggles controlling rushers with his hands. I also wonder about his toughness. It could be the injuries, but I do not know that for certain. Lots of offensive linemen struggle their rookie seasons and come back better each year. We'll see if that applies to Guyton.