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I was never in favor of hiring Linehan but it's very easy just to start blaming play calling without considering the two critical elements, talent and execution.

I've got a lot of respect for the football minds here, when not blinded by anger, and would like to know how you might have called that game differently and how you would move forward.

I watched the replay of that game and it became apparent from the beginning the QB, OL, RB and receivers were not in sync and I don't know what an OC calls at that point. They're stacking against what you want to do and your QB/receivers can't back them off. And your OL and RB are not in sync either.

What do you call when your offense is not executing in either phase and the one thing you thought you could count on, the OL, is a shadow of it's prior self.

You saw how the QB executed the pass plays, you saw how the receivers ran their routes and did you happen to notice what they did when the QB was under pressure? Basically, nothing.

I am really interested to know how y'all would call this differently and no fair changing the cast out, you are stuck with just what you saw.

The other rule. No fair going back to a poorly executed play to replace that with something else because Linehan would gladly do that. When I watched the game again, I watched for one thing, execution and if you get the chance, you might want to do the same. It was not play calling that lost that game.

Look, I am not defending a coach that I didn't even want but is it fair to assume that the Cowboys have a talent challenge now on offense that Bill Walsh couldn't call his way out of? You have a team with a QB that struggled in the last half of the season, he loses his WR1 and TE and you get what to replace them? Are you seriously expecting him to elevate these players like Brady and Rodgers?
 
It's all about first down for me.

IF teams are sitting on things I do on first down i'm countering them with plays that will hurt them if they sit on those plays.

With Dallas we are predictable according to the formation we are in.

If i'm Linehan im keeping them honest when we are in those formations.

Our keep them honest play used to be the bootleg. We need more keep them honest plays that's not the bootleg.


I'm looking at more zone reads on first down and getting back up to the line on 2nd down and running a play with more of a hurry up style.

If you watch New England they have a feel for when to be a fast paced offense that uses no huddle and gets up to the line quick and snaps the ball and they know when to go up to the line and be a slow lethargic team like we are until the end of halfs.



Establish a rhythm, play with some pace, and put an emphasis on 1st downs.
 
Already answered this yesterday.

I do everything in my power to sabotage the HC. It worked for Garrett in getting Wade fired, so why not?
 
It's all about first down for me.

IF teams are sitting on things I do on first down i'm countering them with plays that will hurt them if they sit on those plays.

With Dallas we are predictable according to the formation we are in.

If i'm Linehan im keeping them honest when we are in those formations.

Our keep them honest play used to be the bootleg. We need more keep them honest plays that's not the bootleg.


I'm looking at more zone reads on first down and getting back up to the line on 2nd down and running a play with more of a hurry up style.

If you watch New England they have a feel for when to be a fast paced offense that uses no huddle and gets up to the line quick and snaps the ball and they know when to go up to the line and be a slow lethargic team like we are until the end of halfs.



Establish a rhythm, play with some pace, and put an emphasis on 1st downs.
I can't equate anything about New England to this team or compare Brady and Prescott's abilities to do an instant read on the D and have the quickest get the ball out in the league.

I agree with running Dak more and Norv even added run plays to their O when Newton was concerned he would do the opposite. You go with what you've got and you cannot play the game concerned you're going to get the QB injured, that's the game. With the Cowboys, the QB should be part of the run game, just like CAR.
 
Rather than having the same game plan week after week after week (ie trying to ram the ball down the throat of the defense with Zeke), you try to exploit the weaknesses of a defense.

One week you may be running the ball 45 times. The next week you may be passing it 45 times. It all depends on what the weaknesses of the defense are.

The Patriots offense looks dramatically different week to week. That's because the defenses they are facing are different week to week.

This idea of just beating the guy in front of you died in the mid 1990's.
 
I'm honestly hoping Carolina's defense was a big part of it. I expect DAL will be better and I wouldn't be surprised if they reach the playoffs. Surely they won't shoot themselves in the foot with penalties all season. If they can stay ahead of the chains they can be quite formidable.

But Dak needs a lot of help against good defenses. You could argue most QBs do, but the good ones make the plays they're supposed to make and there were too many unforced errors in Carolina. I have no confidence right now that this team can make a playoff run. Get there? Maybe.
 
I was never in favor of hiring Linehan but it's very easy just to start blaming play calling without considering the two critical elements, talent and execution.

I've got a lot of respect for the football minds here, when not blinded by anger, and would like to know how you might have called that game differently and how you would move forward.

I watched the replay of that game and it became apparent from the beginning the QB, OL, RB and receivers were not in sync and I don't know what an OC calls at that point. They're stacking against what you want to do and your QB/receivers can't back them off. And your OL and RB are not in sync either.

What do you call when your offense is not executing in either phase and the one thing you thought you could count on, the OL, is a shadow of it's prior self.

You saw how the QB executed the pass plays, you saw how the receivers ran their routes and did you happen to notice what they did when the QB was under pressure? Basically, nothing.

I am really interested to know how y'all would call this differently and no fair changing the cast out, you are stuck with just what you saw.

The other rule. No fair going back to a poorly executed play to replace that with something else because Linehan would gladly do that. When I watched the game again, I watched for one thing, execution and if you get the chance, you might want to do the same. It was not play calling that lost that game.

Look, I am not defending a coach that I didn't even want but is it fair to assume that the Cowboys have a talent challenge now on offense that Bill Walsh couldn't call his way out of? You have a team with a QB that struggled in the last half of the season, he loses his WR1 and TE and you get what to replace them? Are you seriously expecting him to elevate these players like Brady and Rodgers?


Trick question...right?

Answer: QUIT :)
 
I can't equate anything about New England to this team or compare Brady and Prescott's abilities to do an instant read on the D and have the quickest get the ball out in the league.

I agree with running Dak more and Norv even added run plays to their O when Newton was concerned he would do the opposite. You go with what you've got and you cannot play the game concerned you're going to get the QB injured, that's the game. With the Cowboys, the QB should be part of the run game, just like CAR.

The team wants a drop back and stay in the pocket quarterback mostly. The team does draws, but does little play action, deep throws, and moving the pocket. Kind of why predictability is so key and a small target area finds home with hits on Dak Prescott.
 
The team wants a drop back and stay in the pocket quarterback mostly. The team does draws, but does little play action, deep throws, and moving the pocket. Kind of why predictability is so key and a small target area finds home with hits on Dak Prescott.

That's a sign of bad coaching though.

Norv Turner in his first game recognized that one of his QB's strengths were his legs.

The difference in that game was Cam Newtons legs. He passed for well under 200 yards but the plays he made with his legs won them the game.


Troy Aikman is not our QB. Dak Prescott is.. Yes Dak can sit in the pocket and make plays but he's also super effective as a runner.
 
Honestly, I really don't know what I would call.

They're expecting the run. My quarterback can only make a few short throws. And he can't adjust routes or audible at the line of scrimmage effectively. That makes play action virtually useless because they're going to play run anyway without consequence.

The RPO is the only way to keep defenses off balance, so I guess I do that until he breaks his leg.
 
Disagree that playcalling is not the issue.

Playcalling is a tricky thing. You not only must call plays w/ the current play in mind, but also the next play, and the next 10 plays. It's more than just calling an out.

And I personally saw twice in the game when the camera panned over to the receivers. They were just running out and turning around. Poor play calling. You're never going to consistently get anyone open like this.
 
Disagree that playcalling is not the issue.

Playcalling is a tricky thing. You not only must call plays w/ the current play in mind, but also the next play, and the next 10 plays. It's more than just calling an out.

And I personally saw twice in the game when the camera panned over to the receivers. They were just running out and turning around. Poor play calling. You're never going to consistently get anyone open like this.
A real quarterback can, and does, change the play at the line of scrimmage on a regular basis. You can't run your receivers into the ground the first quarter. You have to manage their fatigue.

If those fronts were presented to good quarterbacks, they'd check out in a nanosecond to a better play.

Linehan doesn't get the benefit of knowing what the defense will call. The QB has to diagnose it at the line of scrimmage in today's NFL.
 
Go more 3WR/1TE/1RB and 4WR/1RB
RPO, quick passes, rollouts, playaction on 1st down. Go spread/whatever can get Dak back in rhythm
Get the defenses in smaller formations. Instead of a SOLB, make them trot out a corner, or go to dime formations.
JMO.
 
Go more 3WR/1TE/1RB and 4WR/1RB
RPO, quick passes, rollouts, playaction on 1st down. Go spread/whatever can get Dak back in rhythm
Get the defenses in smaller formations. Instead of a SOLB, make them trot out a corner, or go to dime formations.
JMO.
That's fine, but teams are just playing man outside and crowding the first 10 yards with everybody else. There's no room to operate where Dak is comfortable.
 
That's fine, but teams are just playing man outside and crowding the first 10 yards with everybody else. There's no room to operate where Dak is comfortable.

I hear ya, but it beats trotting out two below average tight ends and having predicable playcalling.

3rd year. Time for him to sink or swim.
 
It's all about first down for me.

IF teams are sitting on things I do on first down i'm countering them with plays that will hurt them if they sit on those plays.

With Dallas we are predictable according to the formation we are in.

If i'm Linehan im keeping them honest when we are in those formations.

Our keep them honest play used to be the bootleg. We need more keep them honest plays that's not the bootleg.


I'm looking at more zone reads on first down and getting back up to the line on 2nd down and running a play with more of a hurry up style.

If you watch New England they have a feel for when to be a fast paced offense that uses no huddle and gets up to the line quick and snaps the ball and they know when to go up to the line and be a slow lethargic team like we are until the end of halfs.



Establish a rhythm, play with some pace, and put an emphasis on 1st downs.
this didn't provide any clarity. its a 30,000 ft view description like a politician does....offers no solution, but will fix all the problems....

what specific formations? what change? what plays? etc.....
 

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