Youth And Talent: 2011 And 1992 Cowboys Average Ages:

I think that is the most frustrating thing with the team. Lack of consistency. I believe Garrett needs to start looking at his players and just force the team strengths on the opponents instead of attacking the weaknesses. You have to know what your players are capable of and adapt to set them up to succeed.
 
Thanks for posting Hot_Toddy. Interesting information.

The 2012 team will probably be really young. I expect James, Brooking, Kitna to all be gone. Hopefully, Holland and Dockery are replaced with draft picks or a younger FA. Kosier might be gone or a backup depending on FA, draft and developement of Arkin and Nagy. Newman could be gone due to 8 mil salary.

Projected 2012 starters:

QB 32 Romo
RB 24 Murray
FB 26 Fiammetta
WR 28 Austin
WR 24 Bryant
WR 27 Robinson
TE 30 Witten
OT 28 Free
OT 22 Smith
OG 25 Arkin
OC 23 Peter Konz
OG 28 Ben Grubbs

Average Age of offense: 26.4

DE 25 Lissemore
NT 30 Hatcher
DE 31 Ratliff
ILB 24 Carter
ILB 26 Lee
OLB 25 Victor Butler
OLB 30 Ware
CB 27 Jenkins
CB 27 Scandrick
CB 23 Trumaine Johnson
S 31 Elam
S 29 Sensabaugh

Average Age of defense: 27.3
 
xwalker;4221737 said:
Thanks for posting Hot_Toddy. Interesting information.

The 2012 team will probably be really young. I expect James, Brooking, Kitna to all be gone. Hopefully, Holland and Dockery are replaced with draft picks or a younger FA. Kosier might be gone or a backup depending on FA, draft and developement of Arkin and Nagy. Newman could be gone due to 8 mil salary.

Projected 2012 starters:

QB 32 Romo
RB 24 Murray
FB 26 Fiammetta
WR 28 Austin
WR 24 Bryant
WR 27 Robinson
TE 30 Witten
OT 28 Free
OT 22 Smith
OG 25 Arkin
OC 23 Peter Konz
OG 28 Ben Grubbs

Average Age of offense: 26.4

DE 25 Lissemore
NT 30 Hatcher
DE 31 Ratliff
ILB 24 Carter
ILB 26 Lee
OLB 25 Victor Butler
OLB 30 Ware
CB 27 Jenkins
CB 27 Scandrick
CB 23 Trumaine Johnson
S 31 Elam
S 29 Sensabaugh

Average Age of defense: 27.3

Interesting, and I see you have some lead dogs in the draft pool drawing...
 
Great another comparison between a great Cowboys team of the past and this mediocre team that's having trouble staying at 500. :rolleyes: Anything to give fans hope that this team is on the brink of something big.
 
That team had backups who would be starters on most other teams. We have starters on this team, (OL), who wouldn't make the practice squad of those teams. Come to think of it some of our interior OL shouldn't even be on our practice squad today.
 
KJJ;4222111 said:
Great another comparison between a great Cowboys team of the past and this mediocre team that's having trouble staying at 500. :rolleyes: Anything to give fans hope that this team is on the brink of something big.

Or just as likely, a negative nannie view that does not see actual comparisons of real quality which would prove out no matter which Dallas team was selected.

Romo is up there with the likes of Aikman, Staubach, and Meredith.

I'd match DeMarco Murray right up there with Calvin Hill, despite brevity of actual play. And he and Felix Jones most likely would match the duo running the ball when Walt Garrison was a Cowboy.

The combination Dez Bryant and Miles Austin is probably equal to on field play of Michael Irvin and whoever.

I would place DeMarcus Ware above that of Charles Haley.

I see the start of a Chuck Howley career in Sean Lee.

And I would put Jay Ratliff up with the solid play in the Doomsday, here and now.

As to Erik Williams, I see that level in the development of today's Smith.

Yea, for sure, all that one sees is the dung in a pig pen....for sure.:(
 
HT,

Thanks for the info and the work required to get it. I think its interesting. :thumbup:

Not surprising that many others simply disregard it. They'd probably be much more interested if you hadn't made the comparison to 92. It simply doesn't go well, no matter the qualifiers, if you do that. ;)
 
CCBoy;4222241 said:
Or just as likely, a negative nannie view that does not see actual comparisons of real quality which would prove out no matter which Dallas team was selected.

Not being negative just being honest. Any type of comparison between this inconsistent mediocre team and the 92 team is ridiculous. The 92 team was arguably the greatest team in franchise history and possibly one of top 5 greatest teams in NFL history.

CCBoy;4222241 said:
Romo is up there with the likes of Aikman, Staubach, and Meredith.

Romo isn't up there with Aikman and Staubach unless you're one of those fans who just look at his career numbers and put blinders on to everything else. Aikman and Staubach won 5 SB's between them the Cowboys haven't even sniffed a SB with Romo. Keep it real or don't waste my time!

CCBoy;4222241 said:
I'd match DeMarco Murray right up there with Calvin Hill, despite brevity of actual play. And he and Felix Jones most likely would match the duo running the ball when Walt Garrison was a Cowboy.

Dude the OP is comparing this team with the 92 team Calvin Hill and Walt Garrison didn't play for that team they played for the Cowboys in the early 70's. :rolleyes: The 92 team had a young Emmitt Smith who was well on his way to becoming the NFL's all time leading rusher. As for Calvin Hill and Walt Garrison Hill averaged around 4.4 ypc during his career with the Cowboys and Garrison averaged 4.3 ypc with the Cowboys.

Our current team has had trouble running the ball until the past couple of games I think it's a little premature to put Murray and Felix up there with Hill and Garrison 2 backs who consistently ran the ball well over a period of 6 years. Stop dreaming and come back to reality.

CCBoy;4222241 said:
The combination Dez Bryant and Miles Austin is probably equal to on field play of Michael Irvin and whoever.

You can't be serious! :laugh2: Dez has a lot of talent but still hasn't figured out how to run routes. Romo doesn't trust him and he's vanished in the second half of most of the games this season. Irvin put up almost 1400 yards in 92 and over 1500 yards in 91. Dez is nowhere near at the level Irvin was in 91 or 92.

As for Austin he hasn't been the most dependable receiver either. He's had a lot of drops over his career and has done very little since returning from his injury 3 weeks ago. He's only caught 12 passes for 42 yards the past 3 games. Dez and Austin have not been the consistent combo that Irvin and Harper were not even close!

Although Harper never caught a lot of balls he was one of the greatest deep threats in franchise history. He averaged close to 20 yards a catch during his Cowboy career. In 93 he averaged 21.6 and in 94 he averaged 24.9 which was just under Bob Hayes' team record of 26.1 in 1970. Harper was a great compliment to Irvin he opened up a lot of opportunities over the middle for him. To compare what Dez and Austin have done together with what Irvin and Harper did together is ridiculous! :rolleyes: Irvin and Harper have 3 rings Dez and Austin haven't even won a playoff game together. Some of you need to take off your rose colored glasses and start seeing this current team for what it is MEDIOCRE!


CCBoy;4222241 said:
I see the start of a Chuck Howley career in Sean Lee.

Again the OP is comparing this team with the 92 team Howley played in the 70's. :rolleyes:

CCBoy;4222241 said:
Yea, for sure, all that one sees is the dung in a pig pen....for sure.:(

Most of what the Cowboys have now is dung in the pig pen compared to what they had in 92 that's what you get when you compare a gold mine with a cow pasture. Some of the backups the 92 team had were better than some of the starters on this team. Leon Lett was better than anyone we have currently on our DL and he was a backup on the 92 team. Jimmy Jones another backup in 92 was more of a force up front than some we have starting now.

The 92 team was young and was littered with talent so much so the team went on to win 3 SB's in a 4 year period and this was after being raided by free agency after the 92 season.
 
CCBoy;4222241 said:
I would place DeMarcus Ware above that of Charles Haley.

And you can place Witten over Novacek but how many other players can you name on this team that are truly better than some of the players that were starting on the 92 team? These comparisons FANS come up with in a desperate attempt to compare this mediocre team with some of our great teams is ridiculous. They try finding some correlation between this struggling team and one of our great teams in an attempt to give fans hope that this team could possibly be on the brink of something special. :rolleyes: When this team starts winning consistently and starts finding ways to win games instead of finding ways to lose then some of these comparisons might not look so silly.
 
Funny when we get these 90's teams comparisons.

19 years ago. This game has changed a lot.

Those players were champions and hard to find an under achiever on that 92 team. They sprouted beyond everyone's belief at the right time and became a dynasty.

You got a better shot comparing last years GB team to our 92 team.
 

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