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I think there will be more younger players replacing older on this team in the next two yrs. If you listen to Jerry he is fascinated with how the Niner and Seahawks have been built. These teams are young and conditioned very very good.

Especially San Fran. And it showed in the superbowl. After that blackout Niners young legs and body were the highlight. Ravens with older vets were tight while the Niners handled it easily. And it showed.

This yr i can see players like:
Ratliff
Sensabaugh
Spears
Connor
Livings

all gone for younger, cheaper talent. And then in 2014 Austin, Hatcher, maybe a suprise Elite cut.

Its turned into a fast pace NFL. Where younger and better conditioned teams are going to win. Dallas has been going that route but the problem has been the core of their team(elite) has some age on them.

Dallas needs to hit on this offseason. For one, because they dont have the cap room to sign the better younger talent in FA,
 
I think that trend started with the Cowboys 2 years ago. You will always have a few players over 30.

It's good to have youth, but talent and execution win Championships. We saw that in the Super Bowl.
 
and yet the Ravens won the SB with several ageing vets on their roster, esp on defense.

It's good to have a young roster, but a few key vets who can still perform and are positive in the locker room are also good for team dynamics, imo.
 
I also didn't necessarily think the 9ers appeared in better shape physically in the Superbowl. That run was going to happen at some point, anyway. But their defense, in my opinion, really wasn't as dominant late in the season as it was early. Which stands to reason given how little subbing they do and how many snaps they logged this year.
 
Woods;4994959 said:
and yet the Ravens won the SB with several ageing vets on their roster, esp on defense.

It's good to have a young roster, but a few key vets who can still perform and are positive in the locker room are also good for team dynamics, imo.

Ref'n was spotty that whole game IMO. They missed alot of calls on both ends. Esp on that safety BAL took. Clear holding on that play but the ref eyes were stuck on the punter. Ballgame.

NFL clearly didnt have their A game reffing that game.
 
LatinMind;4994981 said:
Ref'n was spotty that whole game IMO. They missed alot of calls on both ends. Esp on that safety BAL took. Clear holding on that play but the ref eyes were stuck on the punter. Ballgame.

NFL clearly didnt have their A game reffing that game.

Had the refs called holding on that intentional safety play, how would that have helped the 49ers?
 
LatinMind;4994981 said:
Ref'n was spotty that whole game IMO. They missed alot of calls on both ends. Esp on that safety BAL took. Clear holding on that play but the ref eyes were stuck on the punter. Ballgame.

NFL clearly didnt have their A game reffing that game.

I thought the game was well called, actually. That hold on the safety was a non-issue, but it was good coaching on John Harbaugh's part.
 
Idgit;4994998 said:
I thought the game was well called, actually. That hold on the safety was a non-issue, but it was good coaching on John Harbaugh's part.

it was holding thats my point. But i also think there was that late hit on flacco that wouldve gave them a 1st and goal at the one. and that shove on a ref.

Ref game was bad
 
The teams did seem to play faster, younger, needing it more type of game. And I saw that through all the playoff teams.

The Cowboys have to get young. The NFL is a young man's game.

But, watching the SB was really cool...the commercials sucked. :cool:

And...I think the Cowboys do have some young players...maybe some on the practice squad that we don't know about?

Yes, the Cowboys have to get younger and smarter....otherwise, 8-8.

;)
 
The average age of the current expanded roster is 25.29 years.

32 Romo, Tony
31 Ratliff, Jay
30 Hatcher, Jason
30 Livings, Nate
30 Orton, Kyle
30 Ware, DeMarcus
30 Witten, Jason
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29 Armstrong, Anthony
29 Cook, Ryan
29 Free, Doug
29 Sensabaugh, Gerald
29 Spears, Marcus
29 Vickers, Lawrence
28 Austin, Miles
27 Bernadeau, Mackenzy
27 Connor, Dan
26 Carr, Brandon
26 Lee, Sean
26 Parnell, Jermey
26 Underwood, Brandon
25 Agnew, Vince
25 Albright, Alex
25 Arkin, David
25 Bailey, Dan
25 Brent, Josh
25 Cochart, Colin
25 Harris, Dwayne
25 Lissemore, Sean
25 Satele, Brashton
25 Scandrick, Orlando
25 Simmons, Aderious
25 Stephens, Nick
24 Bryant, Dez
24 Callaway, Rob
24 Carter, Bruce
24 Church, Barry
24 Coale, Danny
24 Dominguez, Ray
24 Kowalski, Kevin
24 Mitchell, Carlton
24 Murray, DeMarco
24 Pellerin, Micah
24 Sheffield, Cameron
24 Smith, Andre
24 Tanner, Phillip
24 Taylor, Monte
24 Weems, Darrion
23 Bass, Ben
23 Beasley, Cole
23 Benford, Tim
23 Crawford, Tyrone
23 Dunbar, Lance
23 Green, Jared
23 Hanna, James
23 Johnson, Matt
23 Jones, Chris
23 Leary, Ronald
23 Moore, Sterling
23 Price, Brian
23 Wilber, Kyle
22 Claiborne, Morris
22 Hughlett, Charley
22 Igbinosun, Ikponmwosa
22 McSurdy, Caleb
22 Smith, Tyron
25 Lemon, Orie
25 Costa, Phil
24 McCray, Danny
29 Schaefering, Brian
 
A youth trend is a perpetual thing in the NFL. If your not getting young good talent your falling behind. SF and SEA are beneficiaries of being bad teams and drafting very high for a long duration.
 
Looked to me that the older slower Ravens were running away with the game looking like a blow out until the mysterious power outage for 30 minutes helped the 49ers catch their breath and regroup.
 
LatinMind;4995009 said:
it was holding thats my point. But i also think there was that late hit on flacco that wouldve gave them a 1st and goal at the one. and that shove on a ref.

Ref game was bad
His point is that it wouldn't have changed the outcome. SF would have had to decline because they wouldn't have put any more time on the clock.
 
speedkilz88;4995174 said:
His point is that it wouldn't have changed the outcome. SF would have had to decline because they wouldn't have put any more time on the clock.

Actually, the penalty on the offense in the end zone is a safety, anyway. BAL just bought some more time by instructing the players to hold the rushers. Good coaching.

The refs should have thrown the flags, but I sure they knew the outcome was the same and didn't bother to disturb the flow of the game to ask SF If they wanted the safety, or the safety. :)
 
More than anything, you just need talent. And you'll also need someone who knows how to call and manage a game. The difference between most NFL teams is slim.

Bad call, bad throw, bad drop, a bad coverage, missing an INT, all those things represent a team who's just not ready to compete.

The coaching and the QB play has to get better down the stretch. No way around it, young guys or old.
 
Idgit;4995218 said:
Actually, the penalty on the offense in the end zone is a safety, anyway. BAL just bought some more time by instructing the players to hold the rushers. Good coaching.

The refs should have thrown the flags, but I sure they knew the outcome was the same and didn't bother to disturb the flow of the game to ask SF If they wanted the safety, or the safety. :)

Thats really brilliant coaching as you noted, great job picking up on that! You have to know the GAME inside and out to win at the top level.
 
Wolfpack;4995282 said:
Thats really brilliant coaching as you noted, great job picking up on that! You have to know the GAME inside and out to win at the top level.

Yeah. Sometimes it helps when your HC is a former ST coordinator, huh? It was a smart call, all around.
 
I say this everytime someone brings up "rebuilding" or "youth movement". Its tough for this team to do when the core of their players are all mid 20's. Yes, Romo, Ware, Witten and Ratliff are 30+ but this teams core and who will be the reason this team has ANY success next year will be because of the Tyron's, the Sean Lee's, the Bruce Carter's, the Demarco's, the Brandon Carr's, the Morris Claiborne's and the Dez Bryant's. All guys in their mid 20's or early 20's.
 
The 49ers have I think literally the oldest D-line in the league. Its about results like how the Seahawks re-upped Chris Clemons last off-season even though he is the same age as Jay Ratliff.
 

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