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- I think the good silver lining that comes out of this was that the team fought back hard and did it with their 3rd string QB. I was talking to a Packers fan this weekend and I told him how much I admired their current front office because of how hard it is for teams to replace HoF QB's these days and they did it seamlessly with Rodgers and now have a solid backup QB in Matt Flynn. I thought McGee showed some real potential here and I think anytime you have a team that can consistently develop solid or better QB's, then you're in good shape.

- To be frank, if the weather is decent out here in Florida on Sunday, I won't watch the Eagles vs. Cowboys game. Why? I've pretty much come to the conclusion that there's no sense in me going out of my way to watch a Cowboys game if Pasqualoni is the D-Coordinator. AGAIN, on 4th and 15, the bum decides to rush only 3 men when Skelton couldn't do jack most of the night when we rushed 4 or more. He's really an abominable coach and I won't watch next season if he's the D-Coordinator. Say what you will, but Jerry supposedly re-hired him here without Wade's permission (although it didn't seem that Wade really cared if that happened). That scares me a bit because it could mean that Jerry really respects Pasqualoni as a coach. Personally if I was Garrett I would've been livid after he rushed just 3 on 4th and 15 against a rookie from Fordham. So much so that I would make sure that every call is verified thru me against the Eagles. I just cannot stand this guy coaching any team of mine anymore.

- some things really frustrate me about this team. We seem to be the only team that can never get the proper cleats on until the 2nd half of the game. Personally I think the Barber celebration penalty is a reason why I would cut him immediately after the season is over. Just a super dumb play by a veteran who should know better, but either let his ego or emotions cloud his better judgement. We can't afford to have dumb players like that around any longer. And I have no idea what in the world Jenkins or Ball were trying to do on that TD pass.

- I'm not saying the refs cost us the game, just that it was once again a horibly ref'd game. And the quality of officiating is what drove me away from the NBA (unless Carmelo goes to the Knicks and even that probably won't have me last very long).

- Singletary gets fired and the Chargers are out of the playoffs. This could mean that Norv and company get fired. Personally I'd prefer Rivera as D-C over Singletary, but I wouldn't have a problem with Singeltary...who reminds me a bit of Ernie Stautner...becoming the D-C here.

- I thought McGee has a lot of potential, but otherwise looked very okay. He still struggles a bit with the reads, but that's understandable for a guy in his situations. He has an NFL arm, although it's not exactly a cannon. He did make some bad, inaccurate throws, but did a few things that are really important....1) fired some lasers right when the blitzer was coming right at him 2) threw a beautiful deep ball when we needed it to Miles 3) more importantly, showed quality pocket presence all game long and didn't fumble the football.

- I shake my head at Buehler. All I can say is next season he needs to start making just about everything from under 40 yards or he'll just be a kickoff specialist. This game is about making the least amount of bad plays possible.

- I know some people are really down on Felix, but I think if he can stay healthy next year and if we get some better O-Line play and Romo is Romo...Felix could be poised for a HUGE year. I think he's really turning into a smooth, all-around tailback and doing it with a poor O-Line and a 2nd string QB and no Dez.

- Gronkowski can't pass protect to save his life.

- Colombo and Davis were really awful. Kosier isn't the guy that needs to go. The Cardinals almost he entire game were overloading the left side and daring the Cowboys to run to the right and that's why Garrett kept running to the right, but Colombo and Davis were so awful that we couldn't take advantage of it. If Sam Young can be a decent RT next season, that would be huge for this team.

- I give Miles credit for coming off a slow start and playing hard and well afterwards.

- Don't jump on the Josh Brent bandwagon now...he was awful.

- I seriously don't understand the rules on a trap or whatever on the Bradie INT.

- Well, too much of the 'old, Wade Phillips-esque' Cowboys against the Cards. Too many dumb plays, too many bad plays and really a game we should've won. Part of me thinks Garrett should not be smiling as often as he is shown on TV and I'd be downright livid at Barber for making that dumb penalty and Pasqualoni for getting burned on the same 3 man rush on a crucial down again (you'd think PP would learn after 17 years of making the same dumb call --- fool me once shame on you, fool me 5,000 times...I need a labotomy).

Anyway, I think it's Garrett's job to lose, but games like this don't quite convince me he's the guy to bring us to the promiseland...or even the NFC Championship game. We need a HC that will eliminate foolish play and create an atmosphere where the players are on a tighter leash if they continue to make foolish play. I'm not demanding somebody like Buehler to be cut, but there needs to be competition from the get go if say Anthony Spencer decides to start the season off playing undisciplined again or if Mike Jenkins thinks that there's no need to be disciplined.

I don't expect that from Garrett right now given that situation, but by that same token I'm worried that Garrett doesn't have it in him to rule with an iron fist when necessary. Again, if the weather is nice out Sunday, I'm not watching the Eagles. And if PP is the D-Coordinator in 2011, I won't watch any of the games either.

All I've ever asked from Jerry Jones is to show me that he will legitimately and truly do whatever it takes to win...whether it be from a monetary or a football philosophy standpoint. And if PP is the D-Coordinator in 2011, that just shows to me that Jerry is more worried about saving money than winning.

So...I'll wait and see for now. I feel decent enough about Garrett's prospects as the HC, but I cannot fathom how he could even let a bum like PP possibly ruin his chances at being the next HC for the Cowboys. Perhaps if he took more initiative to not let that happen, I'd be far more confident in Garrett as the HC. But for now I still have some doubts.





YR
 
Yakuza Rich;3764938 said:
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I don't expect that from Garrett right now given that situation, but by that same token I'm worried that Garrett doesn't have it in him to rule with an iron fist when necessary.


YR

i like JG but this is what i am most afraid of with him.
what this team needs more than anything else is the hammer (discipline and accountability) and i am not sure he can (wants to) be a hammer.
when an under performing vet like barber makes an absolutely asinine mistake like this, that is the perfect time to set an example for the rest of the team.

i am also concerned that JG as HC means that people like PP, campo, and OL coach are still around next year unfortunately.

i hope i am wrong.
time will tell.
 
On the that 4th and 15 play, I was saying... just don't rush three... just don't rush three...
 
visionary;3764977 said:
i like JG but this is what i am most afraid of with him.
what this team needs more than anything else is the hammer (discipline and accountability) and i am not sure he can (wants to) be a hammer.
when an under performing vet like barber makes an absolutely asinine mistake like this, that is the perfect time to set an example for the rest of the team.

i am also concerned that JG as HC means that people like PP, campo, and OL coach are still around next year unfortunately.

i hope i am wrong.
time will tell.


I don't agree, judging from Kitna's comments during the game it appears he is pretty stern and doesn't take alot of b.s. Guys that yell and scream during games might look good asthetically, but they don't usually amount to much long term.
 
bootyhunta;3764982 said:
On the that 4th and 15 play, I was saying... just don't rush three... just don't rush three...

Watch PP's defenses as long as I have and that's what you get. You know it's coming, but you *hope* it's not. And it comes anyway.

I've tried to warn people here about the guy...





YR
 
Your hatred for PP is strong. I think our "playmakers" need to step up in those situations regardless of the defensive call. I think they share in the blame and especiallly Jenkins and Spencer who are playing like low round draft choices. If you hate PP so much, you should root for the BOYS to change coaches. That would guarantee that coach PP will not return because no new big name coach will keep him which is exactly the kind of coach Jones will hire.
 
Oh_Canada;3764992 said:
I don't agree, judging from Kitna's comments during the game it appears he is pretty stern and doesn't take alot of b.s. Guys that yell and scream during games might look good asthetically, but they don't usually amount to much long term.

as i said, i hope i am wrong becasue as far as i can tell, JG is going to be the next HC period.
all this talk is just fluff, JJ will interview others but JG will be the next HC.

so for the sake of the cowboys and my sanity) i hope he is great HC.
 
It likely wasn't totally up to Garrett regarding hiring PP as interim DC. He's stuck with him right now. Don't hold that against Garrett. And, I still don't know what it's going to take for people to see that Garrett has done enough to earn this job. Everybody seems to forget that #9 isn't out there. Garrett is 4-3 with Kitna/McGee and a defense that is swiss cheese. What exactly were you expecting??? The team was in complete shambles when he took over. How soon we forget.
 
I think we need to cut Garrett some slack. He's working with what's available to him. He has no say now because he's interim. I suspect in his interview for the permanent head coaching job he'll outline his philosophy and what he plans to do differently. I expct him to recommend wholesale changes. If Jerry Jones is onboard with that, he'll hire Garrett. If not, we'll hear something along the lines that Garrett isn't ready at this time, and Garrett will take his show on the road.
 
Agree on quite a few things.

I'm not sure why people have turned against Felix so quickly. And the only thing Kosier has done wrong was get injured and he seems to have come back well enough from that. Is there anyone left in here who still supports Colombo? I mean I really, really like the guy but his legs are just shot. Davis could still have something left in him I suppose but at the least we need competition in there. I don't hate PP or 3-man rushes nearly as much as you do but that's a pretty high bar. I really doubt he's here next year,though. Look at it this way -- he's earning us a better draft pick, which will likely be on defense. So he is indirectly improving our defense. :D
 
Everything starts with coaching and discipline. We are last in the league in both. That's why we are soon to be 5-11.

Until that is changed, nothing good will come out of Big D. Jimmy didn't win championships being a nice guy. Belicheck isn't a nice guy.

I long for the day that Jerry Jones is no longer the GM of the Cowboys.
 
Yakuza Rich;3764938 said:
- I think the good silver lining that comes out of this was that the team fought back hard and did it with their 3rd string QB. I was talking to a Packers fan this weekend and I told him how much I admired their current front office because of how hard it is for teams to replace HoF QB's these days and they did it seamlessly with Rodgers and now have a solid backup QB in Matt Flynn. I thought McGee showed some real potential here and I think anytime you have a team that can consistently develop solid or better QB's, then you're in good shape.

- To be frank, if the weather is decent out here in Florida on Sunday, I won't watch the Eagles vs. Cowboys game. Why? I've pretty much come to the conclusion that there's no sense in me going out of my way to watch a Cowboys game if Pasqualoni is the D-Coordinator. AGAIN, on 4th and 15, the bum decides to rush only 3 men when Skelton couldn't do jack most of the night when we rushed 4 or more. He's really an abominable coach and I won't watch next season if he's the D-Coordinator. Say what you will, but Jerry supposedly re-hired him here without Wade's permission (although it didn't seem that Wade really cared if that happened). That scares me a bit because it could mean that Jerry really respects Pasqualoni as a coach. Personally if I was Garrett I would've been livid after he rushed just 3 on 4th and 15 against a rookie from Fordham. So much so that I would make sure that every call is verified thru me against the Eagles. I just cannot stand this guy coaching any team of mine anymore.

- some things really frustrate me about this team. We seem to be the only team that can never get the proper cleats on until the 2nd half of the game. Personally I think the Barber celebration penalty is a reason why I would cut him immediately after the season is over. Just a super dumb play by a veteran who should know better, but either let his ego or emotions cloud his better judgement. We can't afford to have dumb players like that around any longer. And I have no idea what in the world Jenkins or Ball were trying to do on that TD pass.

- I'm not saying the refs cost us the game, just that it was once again a horibly ref'd game. And the quality of officiating is what drove me away from the NBA (unless Carmelo goes to the Knicks and even that probably won't have me last very long).

- Singletary gets fired and the Chargers are out of the playoffs. This could mean that Norv and company get fired. Personally I'd prefer Rivera as D-C over Singletary, but I wouldn't have a problem with Singeltary...who reminds me a bit of Ernie Stautner...becoming the D-C here.

- I thought McGee has a lot of potential, but otherwise looked very okay. He still struggles a bit with the reads, but that's understandable for a guy in his situations. He has an NFL arm, although it's not exactly a cannon. He did make some bad, inaccurate throws, but did a few things that are really important....1) fired some lasers right when the blitzer was coming right at him 2) threw a beautiful deep ball when we needed it to Miles 3) more importantly, showed quality pocket presence all game long and didn't fumble the football.

- I shake my head at Buehler. All I can say is next season he needs to start making just about everything from under 40 yards or he'll just be a kickoff specialist. This game is about making the least amount of bad plays possible.

- I know some people are really down on Felix, but I think if he can stay healthy next year and if we get some better O-Line play and Romo is Romo...Felix could be poised for a HUGE year. I think he's really turning into a smooth, all-around tailback and doing it with a poor O-Line and a 2nd string QB and no Dez.

- Gronkowski can't pass protect to save his life.

- Colombo and Davis were really awful. Kosier isn't the guy that needs to go. The Cardinals almost he entire game were overloading the left side and daring the Cowboys to run to the right and that's why Garrett kept running to the right, but Colombo and Davis were so awful that we couldn't take advantage of it. If Sam Young can be a decent RT next season, that would be huge for this team.

- I give Miles credit for coming off a slow start and playing hard and well afterwards.

- Don't jump on the Josh Brent bandwagon now...he was awful.

- I seriously don't understand the rules on a trap or whatever on the Bradie INT.

- Well, too much of the 'old, Wade Phillips-esque' Cowboys against the Cards. Too many dumb plays, too many bad plays and really a game we should've won. Part of me thinks Garrett should not be smiling as often as he is shown on TV and I'd be downright livid at Barber for making that dumb penalty and Pasqualoni for getting burned on the same 3 man rush on a crucial down again (you'd think PP would learn after 17 years of making the same dumb call --- fool me once shame on you, fool me 5,000 times...I need a labotomy).

Anyway, I think it's Garrett's job to lose, but games like this don't quite convince me he's the guy to bring us to the promiseland...or even the NFC Championship game. We need a HC that will eliminate foolish play and create an atmosphere where the players are on a tighter leash if they continue to make foolish play. I'm not demanding somebody like Buehler to be cut, but there needs to be competition from the get go if say Anthony Spencer decides to start the season off playing undisciplined again or if Mike Jenkins thinks that there's no need to be disciplined.

I don't expect that from Garrett right now given that situation, but by that same token I'm worried that Garrett doesn't have it in him to rule with an iron fist when necessary. Again, if the weather is nice out Sunday, I'm not watching the Eagles. And if PP is the D-Coordinator in 2011, I won't watch any of the games either.

All I've ever asked from Jerry Jones is to show me that he will legitimately and truly do whatever it takes to win...whether it be from a monetary or a football philosophy standpoint. And if PP is the D-Coordinator in 2011, that just shows to me that Jerry is more worried about saving money than winning.

So...I'll wait and see for now. I feel decent enough about Garrett's prospects as the HC, but I cannot fathom how he could even let a bum like PP possibly ruin his chances at being the next HC for the Cowboys. Perhaps if he took more initiative to not let that happen, I'd be far more confident in Garrett as the HC. But for now I still have some doubts.





YR

- some things really frustrate me about this team. We seem to be the only team that can never get the proper cleats on until the 2nd half of the game. Personally I think the Barber celebration penalty is a reason why I would cut him immediately after the season is over. Just a super dumb play by a veteran who should know better, but either let his ego or emotions cloud his better judgement. We can't afford to have dumb players like that around any longer. And I have no idea what in the world Jenkins or Ball were trying to do on that TD pass.

That has been bothering me too. They have been slipping and sliding all season. Don't they check field conditions before the players go out and compete.

To me another dumb player or two are Gurode and T-New. They can compensate to some degree because of their talent. I would add oblivious to the dumb player description as well.
 
Yakuza Rich;3764938 said:
Colombo and Davis were really awful. Kosier isn't the guy that needs to go. The Cardinals almost the entire game were overloading the left side and daring the Cowboys to run to the right and that's why Garrett kept running to the right, but Colombo and Davis were so awful that we couldn't take advantage of it.
Actually we did take advantage of it, with 11 rushes for 68 yards and a TD running right, to only 5 for 26 to the left (and 3 of those were tosses). The Cards leaving only one lineman for Davis and Colombo to block gave Davis a chance to get out of his stance and block somebody on the 2nd level on Barber's 24-yard TD run to the right.

Sturm would simply file this play away as another example of how Garrett is taking advantage of his physical practices by ramming it down teams' throats with "22" personnel. But deception was a big part of it, as usual, as we ran away from both TE's lined up left, after the toss left we ran 2 plays earlier.

We ran the ball well--very well, with a 3rd-string QB in the game.
 
wow your completely looney.

Last year every week your expertise told us romo isnt any good and not worth going forward with.

Now you are telling us you wont watch games because.

A. its nice out? ***?

B. PP is the coordinator for one more week.

There is a name for fans like you. It also concerns the weather.
 
The one nice thing I took from this game was that Witten did well again and we got to see a little glimpse of McGee and what he might be able to do in a back up role down the road.

There were too many negatives though for my taste. Especially on Christmas night.

The one thing that bugged me beyond all other things was how players on our team kept losing their footing, all the way to even the last Cards possession, and no one on the team was able to figure out which cleats would have given them better footing.

Miles fell down early.

Two or three times Ware slipped, as he was trying to cut back to get a sack on the QB.

On the final possession, including the 4th and 15 completition, defensive players slipped rushing the QB and trying to comeback to him.


Now i know that happens in games but Saturday night it seemed to be happening a whole heck of lot more than you'd usually see it happening.

And don't even get me started on our fricken kicker.
 
Bwareinrings94;3765014 said:
Your hatred for PP is strong. I think our "playmakers" need to step up in those situations regardless of the defensive call. I think they share in the blame and especiallly Jenkins and Spencer who are playing like low round draft choices. If you hate PP so much, you should root for the BOYS to change coaches. That would guarantee that coach PP will not return because no new big name coach will keep him which is exactly the kind of coach Jones will hire.

Pasqualoni puts his players in position to fail. He played 'not to lose' instead of going for the jugular against a weak rookie QB. And we failed because it's too hard getting any pressure on a QB with a 3 man rush. The only times I remember a 3 man rush work were:

- Belicheat against the Rams in the Super Bowl because Martz refused to run the ball and even that didn't work at the end of the game as the Rams started coming back.

- The '85 Bears when they would randomly rush 3 guys because their blitzes were so superior that when they faked blitz and dropped back 8 it would throw off the QB. Of course, that was 25 years ago.

Of course I root for the Cowboys to fire Pasqualoni, but I'm not really interested in seeing a guy who isn't even D-1 material (you'd think a guy with such a 'successful' record at Syracuse would get another job in college unless they knew he was a joke) coaching my favorite NFL team. It's too frustrating. Life is too short to get angry every time the defense takes the field because he's so utterly incompetent.







YR
 
Wisconsin_Cowboys_Fan;3765056 said:
It likely wasn't totally up to Garrett regarding hiring PP as interim DC. He's stuck with him right now. Don't hold that against Garrett. And, I still don't know what it's going to take for people to see that Garrett has done enough to earn this job. Everybody seems to forget that #9 isn't out there. Garrett is 4-3 with Kitna/McGee and a defense that is swiss cheese. What exactly were you expecting??? The team was in complete shambles when he took over. How soon we forget.

I haven't totally given up on Garrett. Although the way he didn't handle the Barber penalty really irks me. And then watching the defense only rush 3 on 4th and 15 to win the game, really irks me.

I understand it likely wasn't his call. But if I was in the same position as Garrett I would not leave ANYTHING up to chance to get me, what I believe is, the greatest head coaching job in the game of football.

That lackadasical attitude reminds me of Wade in a sense. My attitude would be to not let a soul even think of screwing it up. Wade seemed to not want to hurt feelings. *Maybe* Garrett is the same way. 4th and 15 against a rookie QB...we rush 3. I don't see how anybody can justify that on PP's part. And if I was Garrett I'd make sure that it never happens again.






YR
 
theebs;3765335 said:
wow your completely looney.

Last year every week your expertise told us romo isnt any good and not worth going forward with.

Now you are telling us you wont watch games because.

A. its nice out? ***?

B. PP is the coordinator for one more week.

There is a name for fans like you. It also concerns the weather.

The only person that's looney is yourself for calling me a fair weather fan.

I've missed 2 games since '98. One for my best friends wedding and the other because I was in the hospital.

I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to find this game becasue it was on NFLN and was prepared to drive 90 minutes to a sports bar that was open on Xmas night. Instead I 'luckily' found another sports bar that night. And I do have family and a girlfriend.

I paid $300 for crappy nose bleed tickets against the Falcons in '06 in the Ga. Dome.

This year's team has been incredibly undisciplined for the first half of the season. The team practically gave up mid way thru the year and had players with attitudes that they didn't feel *any* pressure about losing their job. We have a defense that will go down as the *worst* in Dallas Cowboys history, but players who are more worried about being popular than doing those painstaking little things in practice that can make the difference between winning and losing. We had a roster with 3 cornerbacks on it, and a team where the players were actually complaining about practices *not* being hard enough or disciplined enough.

Now we have a D-Coordinator who is a collegiate and Dolphins reject who I watched for 13 years systematically destroy my college team which was a top 10 program when he took them over. A guy that was fired after only 2 seasons with the Dolphins, where he was hired by *friends* of his in Parcells and Sparano, who promptly fired him because he is so incompetent.

And I see him still make the same mistakes he's always made and it still cost the team games. And when I see players who work their butt off like the Wares, Spencer (who is completely different under Garrett), Ratliff, etc. and for this bum to put them in a position to fail....I just don't feel the need to watch my favorite NFL team make the same horrible mistake that my favorite collegiate team made.

I feel like my voice is best heard when I stop watching games and stop spending money on Cowboys merchandise. I don't feel the need to watch the team play if the weather is nice enough because I know exactly how PP is giong to play the Eagles and if we get in the same position to win the game again, I know that once again, he'll rush 3 and they will fail again.






YR
 
Yakuza Rich;3765419 said:
The only person that's looney is yourself for calling me a fair weather fan.

I've missed 2 games since '98. One for my best friends wedding and the other because I was in the hospital.

I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to find this game becasue it was on NFLN and was prepared to drive 90 minutes to a sports bar that was open on Xmas night. Instead I 'luckily' found another sports bar that night. And I do have family and a girlfriend.

I paid $300 for crappy nose bleed tickets against the Falcons in '06 in the Ga. Dome.

This year's team has been incredibly undisciplined for the first half of the season. The team practically gave up mid way thru the year and had players with attitudes that they didn't feel *any* pressure about losing their job. We have a defense that will go down as the *worst* in Dallas Cowboys history, but players who are more worried about being popular than doing those painstaking little things in practice that can make the difference between winning and losing. We had a roster with 3 cornerbacks on it, and a team where the players were actually complaining about practices *not* being hard enough or disciplined enough.

Now we have a D-Coordinator who is a collegiate and Dolphins reject who I watched for 13 years systematically destroy my college team which was a top 10 program when he took them over. A guy that was fired after only 2 seasons with the Dolphins, where he was hired by *friends* of his in Parcells and Sparano, who promptly fired him because he is so incompetent.

And I see him still make the same mistakes he's always made and it still cost the team games. And when I see players who work their butt off like the Wares, Spencer (who is completely different under Garrett), Ratliff, etc. and for this bum to put them in a position to fail....I just don't feel the need to watch my favorite NFL team make the same horrible mistake that my favorite collegiate team made.

I feel like my voice is best heard when I stop watching games and stop spending money on Cowboys merchandise. I don't feel the need to watch the team play if the weather is nice enough because I know exactly how PP is giong to play the Eagles and if we get in the same position to win the game again, I know that once again, he'll rush 3 and they will fail again.






YR


Like I said.

You just spelled it out again.

When it comes to being a fan of a team, you have to go by mr miyagi.

"Win...lose...no matta....."

And trust me, your purchase of scalped tickets in 06 are of no concern to the cowboys or any other organization. You are sending no message by not watching or attending games.

except of course that you are in fact fair weather fan.
 
theebs;3765483 said:
except of course that you are in fact fair weather fan.

Nah, I'm one of those fans that's looking for 'instant gratification' for the past 15 years.

:rolleyes:





YR
 

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