Zeke has changed

I think Dak is a great influence on him and the Cowboys are smart for forcing him to be a leader on the football team as well.

I don't think Zeke wants to be a leader so it's good that the Cowboys basically made him and he will grow up quicker because of it.

I'm not a big fan of Zeke off the field because he's just got a lot of knucklehead in him but he's one of the better runners I've ever seen.

Every game that guy turns negative plays into 2 or 3 yard gains.

The 4th and 1 in Overtime was stuffed and Zeke just found a way.
 
liked the tidbit about Zeke's conversations with Xavier Sua Filo
 
Zeke "Come Back Player of the Year" should be the title of this thread. I personally agree.
 
CATCH17 said:
I think Dak is a great influence on him and the Cowboys are smart for forcing him to be a leader on the football team as well.

I don't think Zeke wants to be a leader so it's good that the Cowboys basically made him and he will grow up quicker because of it.

I'm not a big fan of Zeke off the field because he's just got a lot of knucklehead in him but he's one of the better runners I've ever seen.

Every game that guy turns negative plays into 2 or 3 yard gains.

The 4th and 1 in Overtime was stuffed and Zeke just found a way.
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NOT in my opinion a knucklehead is Gregory, RO, Irving etc Zeke was BMOC at big time school came in and won the rushing title first year and hes young and Immature..Immaturity leads many of us that were his age and our his age to do immature things.. he saw what could happen and its sinking in what it means to eb professional and be leader here..he realizes how much hes counted on here and what those 6 games did to us last year..
 
Zeke has changed. Argued all last season and this off season that Zeke wasn't the same last year only to hear nothing but Dak sucks and stacked boxes. Maybe those arguments can be laid to rest.
 
The experience last year has definitely changed Zeke. He's the one telling the team after each of these victories that they can't be satisfied. The only justice he's going to get from last year's fiasco is having Goodell hand him a Super Bowl trophy.
 
Zeke def has matured in the lime light. Dak def has help with that. I’ve seen them out to dinner few times or a bar/club and Dak calms down zeke a lot he’s still young and wants to have a good time. Can’t blame him. But on the field he’s become a leader
 
blueblood70 said:
NOT in my opinion a knucklehead is Gregory, RO, Irving etc Zeke was BMOC at big time school came in and won the rushing title first year and hes young and Immature..Immaturity leads many of us that were his age and our his age to do immature things.. he saw what could happen and its sinking in what it means to eb professional and be leader here..he realizes how much hes counted on here and what those 6 games did to us last year..
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Immaturity = knucklehead

As people mature they become less of a knucklehead. Zek seems to be maturing.
 
Captain43Crash said:
Immaturity = knucklehead

As people mature they become less of a knucklehead. Zek seems to be maturing.
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NO my definition knuckleheads dont learn they do them over and over like those mentioned, Immature was a young man thrust into greatness is growing up, he isn't out there repeating all the same mistakes..we were all there, its not unheard of for young people to make mistakes and then learn from them, those that dont are knuckleheads..
 
Aviano90 said:
Zeke has changed. Argued all last season and this off season that Zeke wasn't the same last year only to hear nothing but Dak sucks and stacked boxes. Maybe those arguments can be laid to rest.
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He's changed, but he also had some pretty average or below average games that get dismissed because the Prescott hatred is the focus.
Using 100 yards a game as the benchmark:
69 vs. Panthers
78 vs. NY
54 vs. Texans
33 vs. Skins
61 vs. Titans
75 vs. Saints

I'm not pissing on Elliott because he's elite and other than the above mentioned, he's had great performances.
 
rnr_honeybadger said:
No surprise, nothing sobers you up like a false accusation.
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100 likes. The real world can be a <expletive> sometimes. The intelligent thing for any individual is trying never underestimating anyone in their daily life.
 
Streetwise said:
He's changed, but he also had some pretty average or below average games that get dismissed because the Prescott hatred is the focus.
Using 100 yards a game as the benchmark:
69 vs. Panthers
78 vs. NY
54 vs. Texans
33 vs. Skins
61 vs. Titans
75 vs. Saints

I'm not pissing on Elliott because he's elite and other than the above mentioned, he's had great performances.
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What were his receiving yards in those games?
 
Streetwise said:
He's changed, but he also had some pretty average or below average games that get dismissed because the Prescott hatred is the focus.
Using 100 yards a game as the benchmark:
69 vs. Panthers
78 vs. NY
54 vs. Texans
33 vs. Skins
61 vs. Titans
75 vs. Saints

I'm not pissing on Elliott because he's elite and other than the above mentioned, he's had great performances.
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4 out of those 6 were losses. I think we are like 25-1 when Elliott has 25 or more touches.

When you’re Elite talent you often get a pass unlike those who are closer to average talent.

What we’ve missed from Elliott is long runs. He’s due to break one.
 
He lost a crap load of money, not only from the Cowboys, but from advertisers. EzE should have been the face of Nike, not Kap
 
Coming back from a self-inflicted wound isn't the accomplishment Eatman is trying to make it here. Yes, he was railroaded, but he put himself on the tracks in the first place.

That said, and I'm not a huge fan of Elliott as a person--from what little we actually see of him--I have liked his attitude quite a bit more this season than I did earlier in his career. He does seem like a team guy (very much so). He seems to have taken to the leadership role vacated by Witten. On the field, he's basically the RB you'd construct in a lab if you could. There isn't a hole in his game anywhere, and he's durable as hell and comes up big in big situations. I wouldn't have spent the #4 overall on a RB, but he's about as good a RB as you could expect to find.
 
Streetwise said:
Look it up.That wasn't the point.
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I know what your point was. Zeke didn't produce in those games yet didn't get enough "hate" for it in your eyes, because too many people were bashing poor Dak. You said that pointedly.

I'm wondering, why eliminate the receiving yards he produces, since Dak dumps it down to him on screens so often and then sits back and lets Zeke pump Dak's stat line.

I keep reading on here that we have to consider Dak's rushing yards when weighing him against other quarterbacks.
Why can't we weigh Zeke's receiving yards when measuring his performance?

Truth be told, even when including receiving yards a couple of those games are still marginal for Zeke.
But some of them becomes a lot more productive when you include all his touches.
 
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