Zeke's girlfriend alleges domestic violence

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9pzvqunZlLc#t=5 :grin:
 
If you have been here for more than a day you would know I have been backing Hardy for over a year and a half....nice try though

I was going to point out that you had your mind made up a long time ago before knowing anything about the case, but you've just said it much better than I could have.
 
its not even that really I just find it funny I had a handful of posts within 5 or 10 minutes and basically explained how i felt about it but the only post that keeps getting quoted is the first one and nobody is reading how I actually said if true.

But its ok I understand how this goes with cowboys fans on the internet I have been through it a million times and its why i don't post on these things ever. it was a mistake to post here again a few weeks ago. I was just looking forward to the season and excited to talk about football so I posted and put my youtube page back up...Now I realize that was a mistake and will not do either going forward.

Well that's unfortunate. They're just bored and looking to argue is my guess. I wouldn't sweat it but that is because this place has been lesser with you gone.
 
Just as you ran with the opening of the story without all facts, all I did was do the same to you, take your initial words and called you out just as you called him out. You don't like it I get that, I'm sure Elliott does not like being accused for something he did not do and his name being splashed on the headlines

I put his name in the headlines? I called him out whiskey tango foxtrot man. What in the world are you talking about.
 
I was going to point out that you had your mind made up a long time ago before knowing anything about the case, but you've just said it much better than I could have.

bk has been insistent upon the known facts of the case. I really don't see this as a reasonable characterization at all.
 
Because he failed to pay a speeding ticket and was unaware his license had been suspended. But hey, thank goodness we have theebs, the CowboyZone moral authority. Continue to argue that you are not holier-than-thou while harping on minor infractions.

Thanks for the response and thanks for responding exactly like I was jokingly anticipating someone would. '

I think he should be sent to siberia, having your license up to date is important very important. In this state he would go to jail if he was in an accident without a license. So I think we should just go ahead and do that. He his definitely out of my prayer warrior email chain now.
 
There is nothing wrong with changing your mind. Its a sign of growth, or if you want to say you misrepresented your thoughts in the initial post thats great, go for that. You have not been consistent though, and insisting on that is silly.
 
Bro, all I'm saying is if you proclaim that you think he is guilty (or taking the odds that he's is guilty), you're gonna get a little ribbing if it turns out you're on the wrong side. It's not a big deal.

Exactly, we are all off base at one time or another on this board, especially with all the people on here that like to speak in certainties. Fact is I cant really give anyone a hard time that says they were wrong. He did sound pretty negative at first, probably because weve all become accustomed to the bad news. I do think old theebs is trying to clarify he wasnt certain but was more so fearing the worst. At least I hope thats where hes going with it.
 
Ok. But why was it suspended.

Honestly I have no idea. I was only joking in asking and then someone actually quoted me and got all mad at me.

I am sure its something minor. the guy was barely in one place for about 4 months like all these draft eligible players were with the visits and workouts. Has to get a new Texas Licenese when he gets here anyway.
 
They need to start enforcing jail time for false assaults of rape or domestic violence if they can be proven. This is causing problems for both sides.

Yes, there are some crimes that tend to put people in a guilty until proven innocent category. Most involving women or sex, our society doesnt play with those issues, as we shouldn't. However a false accusation is so harmful that damage is done regardless. Just think if somewhere down the line another girl comes out and says this, people are instantly going to say "i knew it." She should be pursued criminally, not just a defamation of character or slander law suit on some cash strapped stripper. Really now Zeke is a pro and thus a target. He needs to do his best to not put himself in potentially vulnerable situations. For example dating a stripper who calls herself a "sex slave."
 
I was going to point out that you had your mind made up a long time ago before knowing anything about the case, but you've just said it much better than I could have.

Actually, BKnight, XWalker, Fuzzy and a bunch of us went through the facts of the case on this forum before Hardy was a free agent, much less a Cowboy. All the information is out there if you spend 30 minutes reading it.

You could start by reading the NC reporters recap of the bench trial:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article9140615.html#.U8VF4agoyTw
 
He got paid, what, a couple months ago? And now this? He probably dumped her to get ready for the season

Or too upgrade to another woman. When your bank account is upgraded so is the type of women you get
 
Well there should be witnesses for that.

That might be a couple of those other witnesses that were not in the car with Zeke and GF. Police said they have spoken to 4 witnesses, one was in the car and reported that there was not an assault. The other 3 witnesses could be the people involved in the bar fight. I haven't read through all 26 pages of this thread so I hope no one else said this. Sorry if you did
 
Probably already been said or speculated on, but is it same to assume that this is the same woman who took a selfie while in bed with him. If so, they should have been enough of a red flag for him to stay away from her.
 
I can't tell if you're actually trying to convince other people or just trying to convince yourself.

You do realize that the charges were expunged by the DA who said that he was not comfortable with Nicole Holder's testimony in the bench trial compared to what she told police at the scene and the crime scene evidence?

Things such as Hardy calling 911 on *her* and she is in the background saying that *she* is sorry and doesn't want to go to jail. And the police report says that when they got to the scene, Holder ran away from the police.

That coincides with somebody that had just hit a person with a high heeled shoe in the face (Holder admitted to being high on coke and drunk at the time (wonderful combination) and thought Hardy was going to have her arrested and then when the cops came...she ran from the cops until they corralled her. And that Holder made claims in her testimony that she was choked despite no strangulation marks on her neck, a small bruise on her chin with falling down and then claimed that Hardy slammed a toilet lid on her arm (which she never told police).

Must have convinced the DA as well. DA's are not really in the business of expunging records.






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Probably already been said or speculated on, but is it same to assume that this is the same woman who took a selfie while in bed with him. If so, they should have been enough of a red flag for him to stay away from her.

No the woman who took the selfie is someone different and allegedly is the one who might have gotten into the fight with Zeke's ex, thus, her trying to pin it on him. Zeke and his girlfriend are going through a breakup. From what I can tell, he dumped this girl after draft day, realizing he's a super star athetete playing for Americas Team and doesn't wanna settle with one female when he can have multiple. He must have also realized she was crazy since he screenshotted the text messages and saved the voicemails of her threatening to damage his reputation.
 
That might be a couple of those other witnesses that were not in the car with Zeke and GF. Police said they have spoken to 4 witnesses, one was in the car and reported that there was not an assault. The other 3 witnesses could be the people involved in the bar fight. I haven't read through all 26 pages of this thread so I hope no one else said this. Sorry if you did

I don't believe he was in her car. She was not invited to his b-day celebration and followed him both at the club and to his home. (Irvin told this to Rich Eisen youtube available on post-#449)
 
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