The Cowboys should sign Keenum, and let Dak decide what to do next

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Carson Wentz led the Eagles to a playoff berth before getting hurt. He earned his ring. But he earned his pay with his play in 2019 when he took the team on his shoulders and won the NFC East while much of his offense were injured- and he beat Dak Prescott when it counted to do so.

he didn't earn his ring. Nick Foles did. lets at least get our facts straight.

 

[fivetwos]

It's going to be okay. I just read Dak was abducted by a UFO. Looks like we're free to sign Brady.

No one wants Brady. No one wants Rivers, or even Newton.

But the idea that there are way more options than usual to a team ought to help them in contract negotiations with their own QB.

Like him or not, it's not as if Prescott is indisputably a top 3 type QB in the league. Very debatable.

If ever was there a situation for a team to sign a stopgap vet and bring along a rookie its now.

And THAT ought to help get a deal done, but then the son tells the world that they are committed to #4, then expect a discount. Something is off.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

• None of those three play for Dallas.
• All three have been to a Super Bowl.
• Wentz outplayed Prescott to win the NFC East this past season with most of his team injured.
• Dak has struggled to win consistently in the weakest division in the NFL.
• Dak has struggled vs teams with winning records, but plays well against weak opponents.
• Dak has not proven that he can be relied on to make the team better by his leadership.
• Dak is the same quarterback he was in college; getting erratic when he is pressured.

If any of those are the reason(s) you were thinking of, you might be right.
But if you're implying what I think you are implying, that is certainly no reason to pay big money to a guy, just to make you feel like it's fair.
Maybe if he could play well enough to win the East when it only would've taken eight wins it might not be a problem to justify some higher pay.
I don't think anyone hates Dak, but he just hasn't played well enough to justify being paid like a marquee quarterback- yet.
If Deshaun Watson was the quarterback in Dallas, I doubt anyone would complain about what he was paid.

• Dak outplayed wentz the prior year. so are we just going by the latest year as a measuring stick? if yes, then Keenum sucks....
• Dak is 13-3, 9-7, 10-6 and 8-8....who has a better winning records over the same span? ooohhh, got you with your pants down and bent over, didn't I
• some one posted the record of top QBs against winning teams and Dak was on par except for Brady who was head and shoulders above the rest
• Dak has the most comeback wins in the past 4 years I believe...

and lastly, you hammered on Garrett for the longest time...you have been a known garrett hater...yet..>Wentz has a superbowl winning coach on his side and Dak has Linehan and Garrett handicapping him.... so why hold garret's incompetence against Dak….and yet, with that incompetence...he hasn't had a losing season yet....let that sink in....

 

[garyo1954]

No one wants Brady. No one wants Rivers, or even Newton.

But the idea that there are way more options than usual to a team ought to help them in contract negotiations with their own QB.

Like him or not, it's not as if Prescott is indisputably a top 3 type QB in the league. Very debatable.

If ever was there a situation for a team to sign a stopgap vet and bring along a rookie its now.

And THAT ought to help get a deal done, but then the son tells the world that they are committed to #4, then expect a discount. Something is off.

You sent the UFO didn't ya?

 

[fivetwos]

You sent the UFO didn't ya?

The 70s rock band??

 

[garyo1954]

The 70s rock band??

Laughing to hard to respond. Have to trip out to the store and get bread for lunch tomorrow and get a grip!

 

[leeblair]

• Dak outplayed wentz the prior year. so are we just going by the latest year as a measuring stick? if yes, then Keenum sucks....
• Dak is 13-3, 9-7, 10-6 and 8-8....who has a better winning records over the same span? ooohhh, got you with your pants down and bent over, didn't I
• some one posted the record of top QBs against winning teams and Dak was on par except for Brady who was head and shoulders above the rest
• Dak has the most comeback wins in the past 4 years I believe...

and lastly, you hammered on Garrett for the longest time...you have been a known garrett hater...yet..>Wentz has a superbowl winning coach on his side and Dak has Linehan and Garrett handicapping him.... so why hold garret's incompetence against Dak….and yet, with that incompetence...he hasn't had a losing season yet....let that sink in....

• Wentz started with a new head coach and the Eagles had to completely rebuild, and became a Super Bowl Champion. Dak started with a team expecting to compete for a Super Bowl and the best running back in the NFL and the best offensive line and got worse instead of better.
• Dak is basically 8-8 twice; the 9-7 season would've been 8-8 if the Eagles hadn't rested their starters in week 17.
• And yes; Garrett was terrible; I think he taught a bad culture to Dak, which is why he's not able to get past tough teams. I do think a lot of Garrett is engrained in Dak- including not having to earn his spot.
• Comeback wins don't mean much when the team is sitting at home in January. Winning when it matters does.
• Dak went head to head with Wentz when the 2019 season was on the line and the Eagles were crippled by injuries. Wentz proved to be the better quarterback, by far.

 

[leeblair]

he didn't earn his ring. Nick Foles did. lets at least get our facts straight.

The Eagles clinched the East - despite Dak- before Wentz got hurt.
He earned his ring.

 

[Philmonroe]

• None of those three play for Dallas.
• All three have been to a Super Bowl.
• Wentz outplayed Prescott to win the NFC East this past season with most of his team injured.
• Dak has struggled to win consistently in the weakest division in the NFL.
• Dak has struggled vs teams with winning records, but plays well against weak opponents.
• Dak has not proven that he can be relied on to make the team better by his leadership.
• Dak is the same quarterback he was in college; getting erratic when he is pressured.

If any of those are the reason(s) you were thinking of, you might be right.
But if you're implying what I think you are implying, that is certainly no reason to pay big money to a guy, just to make you feel like it's fair.
Maybe if he could play well enough to win the East when it only would've taken eight wins it might not be a problem to justify some higher pay.
I don't think anyone hates Dak, but he just hasn't played well enough to justify being paid like a marquee quarterback- yet.
If Deshaun Watson was the quarterback in Dallas, I doubt anyone would complain about what he was paid.

I guess using the logic the implier is using Mahomes Jackson, or Watson will have the same problems? I also guess using the impliers logic Kirk Cousin was giving the money by Washington and we are all just living in an alternate reality where that didn't happen? The insecure and sadly inferior thinkers will use all types of emotional logic that can easily be discredited smh.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

• Wentz started with a new head coach and the Eagles had to completely rebuild, and became a Super Bowl Champion. Dak started with a team expecting to compete for a Super Bowl and the best running back in the NFL and the best offensive line and got worse instead of better.
• Dak is basically 8-8 twice; the 9-7 season would've been 8-8 if the Eagles hadn't rested their starters in week 17.
• And yes; Garrett was terrible; I think he taught a bad culture to Dak, which is why he's not able to get past tough teams. I do think a lot of Garrett is engrained in Dak- including not having to earn his spot.
• Comeback wins don't mean much when the team is sitting at home in January. Winning when it matters does.
• Dak went head to head with Wentz when the 2019 season was on the line and the Eagles were crippled by injuries. Wentz proved to be the better quarterback, by far.

the eagles didn't have to completely rebuild, that's a total lie, they had a lot of players in place already and drafted wentz…..and dak as a rookie had a 13-3 record and went to the playoff against a future HOFer and took them to the edge....and in the end the defense lost it!!! subsequent to that only a fool would believe we were superbowl ready...perhaps those that like to argue a false narrative!

basically 8-8 twice means he had twice 8-8 record...that's not true. he only had one season of 8-8...so please don't make up shiet….because if 9-7 is 8-8 in your book, then 10-6 is similar to 9-7, so I could say he almost had three double digit win years...you see how it works? the record is what the record is...you can't make it one thing or the other to fit a dumb line of reasoning...

and you still are avoiding the garrett question. Garrett according to you was not even worthy of coaching a 6 year old flag football team (dare I find your old posts?)....yet he was head coach of cowboys...Dak had to over come that....and coaches are not made in the regular season, they are made in the playoffs...that separates the best from the rest...that's where garrett failed....so according to you garrett sucked, was horrible, didn't deserve to be a coach at any level, didn't have understanding of football and should have been fired 10 years ago....yet, you continuously dismiss that big factor in all of this

wentz by all measures is not a better QB, in almost every statistical category Dak is better than him....except Wentz has ring, thanks to Foles…..and Wentz is partially made of glass as he has been injured every year....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The Eagles clinched the East - despite Dak- before Wentz got hurt.
He earned his ring.

cowboys clinched the east and lost in the playoffs. Baltimore clinched #1 seed and Jackson lost....there is no guarantee that Wentz would have won in the playoffs given he didn't have experience.....Foles won not Wentz as luckily for Eagles Wentz was on the sideline... he got lucky to get a ring....sometimes you are in the right place at the right time

 

[Ranched]

No, I didn't say that. I clearly said that he would be a developmental guy if we were unable to draft a QB this year. He would be an option to bring in. I never said bring him in as the primary replacement or Vet backup. I mean, come on. Are you just gonna lie about what's in the thread or what?

Here ya go my friend. Thought you could use this today.

cowboys clinched the east and lost in the playoffs. Baltimore clinched #1 seed and Jackson lost....there is no guarantee that Wentz would have won in the playoffs given he didn't have experience.....Foles won not Wentz as luckily for Eagles Wentz was on the sideline... he got lucky to get a ring....sometimes you are in the right place at the right time

Lol. And the entire nation seen how great Wentzie was in his FIRST postseason game, um, QUARTER.

 

[I need 6]

• None of those three play for Dallas.
• All three have been to a Super Bowl.
• Wentz outplayed Prescott to win the NFC East this past season with most of his team injured.
• Dak has struggled to win consistently in the weakest division in the NFL.
• Dak has struggled vs teams with winning records, but plays well against weak opponents.
• Dak has not proven that he can be relied on to make the team better by his leadership.
• Dak is the same quarterback he was in college; getting erratic when he is pressured.

If any of those are the reason(s) you were thinking of, you might be right.
But if you're implying what I think you are implying, that is certainly no reason to pay big money to a guy, just to make you feel like it's fair.
Maybe if he could play well enough to win the East when it only would've taken eight wins it might not be a problem to justify some higher pay.
I don't think anyone hates Dak, but he just hasn't played well enough to justify being paid like a marquee quarterback- yet.
If Deshaun Watson was the quarterback in Dallas, I doubt anyone would complain about what he was paid.

Wentz and Goff had better coaches and better defenses which placed them in better situations to succeed. The last Eagles game is the only game Wentz out played Dak in and Dak was hurt that game.

 

[GMO415]

I'd only cut Dak for Brady.

 

[I need 6]

Carson Wentz led the Eagles to a playoff berth before getting hurt. He earned his ring. But he earned his pay with his play in 2019 when he took the team on his shoulders and won the NFC East while much of his offense were injured- and he beat Dak Prescott when it counted to do so.

Don't forget Dak led the team to 13-3 and we lost to the Packers because of the coaches. Dak walked Aaron Rogers down tied the game up and Garrett pulled a Shanahan type clock management move. If I remember correctly Garrett played for the tie instead of going for the win. Carson gets more credit for his 11-12 games that Super Bowl year than Dak does for our 13-3 simply because the Eagles reached their desired result. A result that was eventually achieved by Foles. Those years are even to me. Dak did it as a rookie.

Nobody mentions Dak Prescott won Rookie of the Year!!!
Dak's resume is better. Wentz's team was better.

 

[kskboys]

I'd only cut Dak for Brady.

I watched Brady several times last year. I think that would be a bad idea.

 

[garyo1954]

I watched Brady several times last year. I think that would be a bad idea.

Would you cut Dak for a Klondike bar?

 

[kskboys]

Would you cut Dak for a Klondike bar?

Can I get some grey poupon on the side?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

ahem, aha, sure thing...ooookkkk

It's there to read.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Here ya go my friend. Thought you could use this today.

Lol. And the entire nation seen how great Wentzie was in his FIRST postseason game, um, QUARTER.