News: Yahoo Sports reporting that Dak was offered 33 Million a year and he turned it down

[jaythecowboy]

Disagree.

Players only have so many years. To play for a couple mil when you could play for 30 mil means you lost 28 mil. Unless he can truly sign a contract paying him around 40 mil/season, he's lost that money forever. Not understanding why that isn't logical.

Even if he signed a new deal he was playing for 2 million this year. The signing bonus would have been an advance on a new deal starting in 2020.

 

[Buzzbait]

Wilson signed for 35MM AAV eight months ago.

Dak is not better than Wilson.

Yeah but, but, Fair! Fair! Fair!

 

[cowboy_ron]

Disagree.

Players only have so many years. To play for a couple mil when you could play for 30 mil means you lost 28 mil. Unless he can truly sign a contract paying him around 40 mil/season, he's lost that money forever. Not understanding why that isn't logical.

Holding out especially for a season is also money that is never recouped even if the get the money they originally wanted after holding out.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Holding out especially for a season is also money that is never recouped even if the get the money they originally wanted after holding out.

A hold out is a different scenario. You definitely lose money there if you sit out a full season. That doesn't apply to Dak though.

 

[Future]

Dak is worth 28-32 per year... Somewhere in there with guaranteed money. It would be in his best interests to get to the table & deal... & that's coming from a Dak Stan....

This is just not even close.

Wentz is at $32 and signed before this year. That means Dak's floor is $33.

There is absolutely 0 reason for Dak to sign for anything less than $37-38 right now, especially with a new CBA coming that will increase the cap again.

 

[Sydla]

This is just not even close.

Wentz is at $32 and signed before this year. That means Dak's floor is $33.

There is absolutely 0 reason for Dak to sign for anything less than $37-38 right now, especially with a new CBA coming that will increase the cap again.

Russell Wilson is at $35MM AAV.

He signed 8 months ago. Wilson is better than Dak. It's kind of preposterous to argue that in only 8 months the market for QBs went up for a QB that's not better than Wilson.

His range is the $32 to $35MM that Wentz and Wilson got.

 

[Future]

Russell Wilson is at $35MM AAV.

He signed 8 months ago. Wilson is better than Dak. It's kind of preposterous to argue that in only 8 months the market for QBs went up for a QB that's not better than Wilson.

His range is the $32 to $35MM that Wentz and Wilson got.

Ok fine. I didn't say that's what he should get. I said there's no reason he should sign for less than that.

His extension also started at the age of 32, and was only for 4 years, after coming off a large contract. It's not really comparable.

Also, in no professional sports league is there a correlation between higher paid and better. It never happens, or salaries would never rise. It's largely a moot point, especially when Dak's numbers were better anyway.

 

[Chuck 54]

This is like any other negotiation. Do you think his agent takes him a deal, and DAK says, "No, I want to be the highest paid QB in the league"?

Maybe he says that, but I'm betting against it. I just think DAK is a smart young man who is letting his agent do what he's getting paid for, and because DAK is a household name due to the Cowboys, his agent is playing hard ball because when DAK finally signs, this guy is going to have many of this year's rookies and upcoming free agents lining up to have him represent them.

 

[Sydla]

Ok fine. I didn't say that's what he should get. I said there's no reason he should sign for less than that.

His extension also started at the age of 32, and was only for 4 years, after coming off a large contract. It's not really comparable.

Also, in no professional sports league is there a correlation between higher paid and better. It never happens, or salaries would never rise. It's largely a moot point, especially when Dak's numbers were better anyway.

There is a loose correlation when you are talking signing contracts less than a year apart.

It happened this past year. Wilson signed his big deal in April and then Wentz signed his deal in June. Wentz didn't get more because Wentz isn't as good as Wilson. That's Dak. He's not a good or as accomplished as Wilson. So there should be the ceiling and if hte Cowboys blow past that ceiling, then they panicked and buckled.

 

[Future]

There is a loose correlation when you are talking signing contracts less than a year apart.

It happened this past year. Wilson signed his big deal in April and then Wentz signed his deal in June. Wentz didn't get more because Wentz isn't as good as Wilson. That's Dak. He's not a good or as accomplished as Wilson. So there should be the ceiling and if hte Cowboys blow past that ceiling, then they panicked and buckled.

"loose correlation" is exactly why Dak can get $37.

Dak also didn't make 20-something million on his rookie deal like Wentz and Goff.

And again, the CBA is going to expire. Dak would be stupid to take anything other than an "overpay." So would Mahomes, for that matter.

 

[kskboys]

Even if he signed a new deal he was playing for 2 million this year. The signing bonus would have been an advance on a new deal starting in 2020.

Leveon disagrees w/ you!!!!

 

[kskboys]

This is just not even close.

Wentz is at $32 and signed before this year. That means Dak's floor is $33.

There is absolutely 0 reason for Dak to sign for anything less than $37-38 right now, especially with a new CBA coming that will increase the cap again.

Reason #1: Winning super bowls

 

[Doomsday101]

Russell Wilson signed a 4 year, $140M new money extension with the Seattle Seahawks on April 15, 2019 that included a $65M signing bonus, $107M of total guarantees, and an average annual salary of $35M. At the time of signing this deal was the highest average paid contract, most total guarantees, and biggest signing bonus in NFL history. Is that what Dak turned down?

Of did he turn this down?
Carson Wentz signed a 4 year, $128,000,000 contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, including a $16,367,683 signing bonus, $107,970,683 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $32,000,000. In 2020, Wentz will earn a base salary of $1,383,000, a roster bonus of $8,000,000 and a signing bonus of $30,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $18,656,536 and a dead cap value of $62,477,152.

People keep throwing out this lump sum number but I would say if you gave a contract that avg was say 35 or 38 mill but within the deal the guaranteed portion is 60 million then what you have in reality is a 60 mill contract for 4 to 5 years. The player knows this portion is the only true portion he can count on.

Fact is without seeing the entire contract proposed we don't know what Dak turned down

 

[glimmerman]

I wonder what the guaranteed money was and signing bonus.

 

[Doomsday101]

I wonder what the guaranteed money was and signing bonus.

I think if we knew that we would understand a lot more.

 

[Blue64]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/cowboy...rescott-then-he-asked-for-more-154244231.html

The always reliable and no less of a giant in the world of sports...

yahoo sports...

Perfectly describes anyone who believes this crap

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ok fine. I didn't say that's what he should get. I said there's no reason he should sign for less than that.

His extension also started at the age of 32, and was only for 4 years, after coming off a large contract. It's not really comparable.

Also, in no professional sports league is there a correlation between higher paid and better. It never happens, or salaries would never rise. It's largely a moot point, especially when Dak's numbers were better anyway.

This isn't true. Rookie deals increase annually. That alone constitutes salary increase. There is nothing written that says every single QB, regardless of value, gets a record deal once his contract is up. That too is completely untrue.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Leveon disagrees w/ you!!!!

Wasnt that a franchise tag he refused to sign? That's not the same thing.

 

[Sydla]

"loose correlation" is exactly why Dak can get $37.

Dak also didn't make 20-something million on his rookie deal like Wentz and Goff.

And again, the CBA is going to expire. Dak would be stupid to take anything other than an "overpay." So would Mahomes, for that matter.

Rookie deals matter little here.

 

[kskboys]

Wasnt that a franchise tag he refused to sign? That's not the same thing.

Steelers offered a contract for 17 mil/season. He refused the contract and the tag and sat out a year, then signed for around 14 mil/season. He will never get that money back.