Twitter: Broncos Poised to Make Cowboys' CB Byron Jones 'Top Target' in Free Agency

[BrAinPaiNt]

Oh. No I don;t see that happening at all. If the Cowboys tagged him, I think the Cowboys would be stuck paying him.

I honestly see these 'leaks' as teams trying to put some chum in the water to get Dallas to do something stupid. There's no advantage to showing your hand ahead of time, before free agency even begins.

I think some team will indeed give him a nice payday.

I have been shocked by the amount of money that some decent to good players get over the years.

Comes back to what Stephen said about him seeing good players getting paid like Great players and that is why they have stopped paying big time to FAs like they used to do.

 

[CouchCoach]

Oh. No I don;t see that happening at all. If the Cowboys tagged him, I think the Cowboys would be stuck paying him.

I honestly see these 'leaks' as teams trying to put some chum in the water to get Dallas to do something stupid. There's no advantage to showing your hand ahead of time, before free agency even begins.

Does DEN care about getting in the Cowboys' head? What have they got to gain? I don't think they did that on purpose.

 

[Javier]

We need this guy

Awuzie and Brown are terrible

 

[CouchCoach]

No-one really knows right now if Cooper is in fact a problem or has attitude issues. For all we know he warriored through an injury during the latter half of the season.

It's not a matter of attitude, he's never been that guy. It's a matter of availability and consistency, which player shows up for every game.

I see this as an either or with Cooper/Jones and it might not be but if it is, this team needs a CB preventing passes rather than a WR catching them. There are a lot of good WR's in this draft and not nearly as many CB's.

 

[Sydla]

'Great' cornerbacks make game-changing plays. They force turnovers. Jones doesn't, therefore he isn't.

He is Top 10 the last two years in completion percentage against him and opposing pass ratings against him. That's great.

 

[cern]

Does DEN care about getting in the Cowboys' head? What have they got to gain? I don't think they did that on purpose.

not the cowboys heads. Byron's head. there's a difference. otherwise, why make the statement at all.

 

[Stash]

I think some team will indeed give him a nice payday.

I have been shocked by the amount of money that some decent to good players get over the years.

Comes back to what Stephen said about him seeing good players getting paid like Great players and that is why they have stopped paying big time to FAs like they used to do.

I agree. It happens every year. I was shocked at the offer Hitchens got a few years back.

It's like when teams have money, they feel compelled to spend it, even when it clearly looks like reckless overpaying.

Truman Johnson is a nice recent example of 'buyer beware' at cornerback. The Jets had a ton of cap room and wasted it on a guy like him, who cashed in then cashed out. And two years later, they're dumping him and that awful deal.

 

[Stash]

He is Top 10 the last two years in completion percentage against him and opposing pass ratings against him. That's great.

0 interceptions. 0. The opposite of 'great'.

 

[Stash]

Does DEN care about getting in the Cowboys' head? What have they got to gain? I don't think they did that on purpose.

The 'gain' would be getting another team to do something dumb in free agency. Maybe Amari Cooper is, in fact, the Broncos target? Get Dallas to choose Jones vs Cooper and then your chances of getting your guy have increased.

I''l ask you, what do they gain by letting their actual intentions be made public ahead of free agency?

 

[Sydla]

0 interceptions. 0. The opposite of 'great'.

Interceptions are a poor way to judge a CB especially when a guy is as good as Jones at blanketing a side of the field. He's a great CB, with the lack of interceptions being the reason he's not an elite, Top 3-4 CB.

 

[CouchCoach]

We had an elite level CB this year and he took away a side of the field and the defense wasn't all that good because they couldn't get consistent pressure on the QB, consistently stop the run, etc.

He is also a good tackling DB. It will be interesting to see if Nolan's OK with letting him go with the stable of DB's on this team.

 

[CouchCoach]

not the cowboys heads. Byron's head. there's a difference. otherwise, why make the statement at all.

Good question, both Jones' agent and the Cowboys know he will be highly sought after, among the top FA's when it starts. He's an A list FA.

Every player up for FA, that's a B or above, knows the lay of the land, who's interested and the ball park of what they might get. There's nothing that prevents agents and GM's making "assumptions". Jones' agent knows which teams are interested because they've told him.

 

[Stash]

Interceptions are a poor way to judge a CB especially when a guy is as good as Jones at blanketing a side of the field.

No it isn't. But you're trying to say so because the guy you're propping up doesn't get any. Nobody's fooled.

Go tell Troy Aikman how it's "a poor way to judge":

"I was talking to Troy Aikman probably 15 years ago, and I remember him talking about defensive backs and throwing against them," Nolan said. "And he said, 'You know, I'm not really concerned throwing at a corner that's just going to knock the ball down. I throw incompletions all the time.' We were talking about Deion [Sanders] and he said, 'But when I throw against Deion, I've got to be concerned about the ball going for 6 the other way.' And I thought that was a great point. The really good quarterbacks, I think, recognize the same things. There really is no fear in throwing the ball if it's going to be complete or on the ground, but when that guy covering him can take it the other way, that's a difference-maker."

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...ys-defense-to-have-swarming-type-of-mentality

He's a great CB, with the lack of interceptions being the reason he's not an elite, Top 3-4 CB.

He's a good cornerback allergic to the football. "Elite" cornerbacks make plays, not simply cause an occasional incompletion.

 

[kskboys]

Actually he might. He wasnt allergic to the ball. I do think we need to keep Byron at all costs though. Losing him will be devastating unless we pick up a CB in the first round

Keeping him will be more devastating if it means we cannot fix the DLine.

 

[ondaedg]

It's not a matter of attitude, he's never been that guy. It's a matter of availability and consistency, which player shows up for every game.

I see this as an either or with Cooper/Jones and it might not be but if it is, this team needs a CB preventing passes rather than a WR catching them. There are a lot of good WR's in this draft and not nearly as many CB's.

The numbers could create a perception that he isn't engaged every single week but I don't buy that. Why would he decide I am going to play hard this week and not the next? Just doesn't make sense to me.

One thing we can't forget is Jason Garrett was our head coach in 2019 and arguably his greatest weakness is his inability to make adjustments in-game. It's just as likely that teams were figuring out how to play Amari and there were no adjustments coming from the coaching staff to counter those coverages.

 

[kskboys]

I think some team will indeed give him a nice payday.

I have been shocked by the amount of money that some decent to good players get over the years.

Comes back to what Stephen said about him seeing good players getting paid like Great players and that is why they have stopped paying big time to FAs like they used to do.

And the irony is they were one of the teams who got that started.

 

[ondaedg]

No it isn't. But you're trying to say so because the guy you're propping up doesn't get any. Nobody's fooled.

Go tell Troy Aikman how it's "a poor way to judge":

"I was talking to Troy Aikman probably 15 years ago, and I remember him talking about defensive backs and throwing against them," Nolan said. "And he said, 'You know, I'm not really concerned throwing at a corner that's just going to knock the ball down. I throw incompletions all the time.' We were talking about Deion [Sanders] and he said, 'But when I throw against Deion, I've got to be concerned about the ball going for 6 the other way.' And I thought that was a great point. The really good quarterbacks, I think, recognize the same things. There really is no fear in throwing the ball if it's going to be complete or on the ground, but when that guy covering him can take it the other way, that's a difference-maker."

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...ys-defense-to-have-swarming-type-of-mentality



He's a good cornerback allergic to the football. "Elite" cornerbacks make plays, not simply cause an occasional incompletion.

Agree with Troy 100%. It's all going to come down to how much teams want to pay a guy with top 10 cover skills but lacks takeaway ability. IMHO he doesn't deserve top 5 CB money. But top 10 money is certainly within the realm of possibility.

 

[Stash]

Agree with Troy 100%. It's all going to come down to how much teams want to pay a guy with top 10 cover skills but lacks takeaway ability. IMHO he doesn't deserve top 5 CB money. But top 10 money is certainly within the realm of possibility.

I'm betting some dumb team will pay him to reset the top of the cornerback market. Just don't have that team be us!

 

[ondaedg]

I'm betting some dumb team will pay him to reset the top of the cornerback market. Just don't have that team be us!

I think we wait to see how much demand there is for him from other teams. If someone wants to pay top dollar we let him walk. I have confidence in our front office on this one.

 

[Stash]

I think we wait to see how much demand there is for him from other teams. If someone wants to pay top dollar we let him walk. I have confidence in our front office on this one.

$10 million a year would be my top offer to a good cornerback who isn't a game-changer.