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The offense you’re blaming for every loss was ranked #1 for the entire season.


Do you even process the stuff you are typing?


Dude I give up on you. You are a lost cause. Go back to my original post and point out ONE instance where I am wrong about ANY of the 8 losses.... I am not interested in the 8 wins where we beat 6 historically bad teams and incredibly pathetic Defenses. I am also not interested in the garbage time prevent stat padding that was so commonplace in 2019.

If the Offense was so great and really the best Offense in football like you are trying to imply than they could have imposed their will on any team in the NFL last year. Therefore they would have at least made the playoffs or at least had a winning record.... or at least not fired just about all the coaches on the Offensive side of the football.

And truth be told I thought the Offense overall last year was good..... not when it actually mattered or when it counted. But overall I thought the Offense was good. They had an average QB surrounded by other great players on the Offense. Great players + Average QB= Pretty Good Offense. They actually elevated his play.

Get back to me when you can actually prove even ONE thing that I say that is incorrect..... LOL.

You know I am laughing at you right?
 

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Every time you talk you remind me of that movie the Waterboy when LT is telling the kids not to do crack.

1. The Defense was 11th ranked in the entire league. Turnovers or no Turnovers.... if they got more turnovers they would have been top 3. You cannot expect everything to be perfect every season.... & that is exactly my point.

2. The biggest reason why the Defense was bleeding points was because the Dak attack would go a quick 3 & out. Dallas completely changed and lost their identity this season. They stopped moving the chains and running the football.

3. The Defense did not run a scheme of receiving a high propensity of turnovers. Bend but do not break will force a lot of punts.... not turnovers.

4. A lot of the field position was because the Offense could not move the football at all. Even having drives of getting 1-2 first downs before punting would have been beneficial.

5. Bad field position to good field position on an average for the entire season..... LOL..... what are we talking here an extra 3 yards?..... an extra 5 yards? If your Offense cannot overcome that than you have bigger problems.

6. If you thought the Defense at 11th in the entire NFL was bad in 2019.... you should watch the sh..show coming in 2020 when we say goodbye to half the starters because of Dak's new contract..... LOL.

7. The only reason why Dak & the offense put up points or yards in a couple of the losses was because the other team was also scoring. If the Packers & Bears were not scoring they never would have been playing such a soft prevent Defense. The end result still would have been the same.... A LOSS. It just would have been more like the Patriots loss, the Eagles loss, the Saints loss, etc.


So internet tough guy If you want to debate that is fine. But I see 2 problems.

1. My IQ is higher.

2. Facts are on my side.

In addition....

3. I do not 100% blame Dak. I have said all along he is average. My entire problem with him is the Cowboys are about to reward his play & achievements with the highest paid football contract of ALL TIME. Having 1 playoff win in 4 years does not quantify this financial reward. I have higher standards I want SB's..... not a wildcard win every 4th year.

4. I also do not like people that are full of BS & that are 2 faced. Dak says he is all about the team & winning..... His contract negotiations say otherwise. I put more stock in people's actions than their words. TALK IS CHEAP.

5. Considering I was offered the opportunity to play professional football in the CFL I trust that I know more about football than you.

6. Where do I blame just ONE player? I blame the entire Offense.... but yes since the rest of the Offense is all pro players at every position. The lion's share of blame does go to the QB.



Hey CFL player and football savant.

The Dallas Cowboys were #2 in the entire league in 3rd down conversion percentage last season. But please, keep telling me how the poor field position. Was due entirely to the offense going 3 and out, and had nothing to do with the defense or the worst special teams in the league.

And yes. Even a few yards per drive of field position makes a difference when there are hundreds of drives in an NFL season. The cowboys had to drive an additional 1100 yards to score, than the Patriots (best team in the league by field position) did this last season. By all means tell me how 1100 yards over the course of the season “doesn’t amount to much”.
 

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The offense you’re blaming for every loss was ranked #1 for the entire season.

You also said in your last post that all 8 losses were on Dak.

Do you even process the stuff you are typing? Can you even read your own posts?


Did you watch the defense get steamrolled by a bunch of teams last year? I would think a CFL all Star such as yourself would be able to see the defense get manhandled at times and think it’s a problem.


But yeah you just spouting nonsense and claiming it as fact, means the facts are on your side.

The #1 ranking for the offense was pretty much based on steamrolling horrific NFL teams, often at their weakest moments during the season.

The #1 ranked offense struggled against all good teams, except the Vikings.

Defense getting steamrolled in some games was also related to the offense constantly having three and outs/struggling to execute first downs. The knock on effect for the defense was more time on the field in a shorter period of time and facing an offense with a strong starting field position.

There are of course other variables to those eight losses, but the one constant theme was Dak Prescott at quarterback starting every game and the offense faltered or struggled in all of those games and contributed to those losses.

How many of those games did Prescott throw for 500 yards, 5 touchdowns and help the team score 48 points? I wouldn't blame those type of losses on Prescott but think, by jove he did all that and we still lost.
 

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Dude I give up on you. You are a lost cause. Go back to my original post and point out ONE instance where I am wrong about ANY of the 8 losses.... I am not interested in the 8 wins where we beat 6 historically bad teams and incredibly pathetic Defenses. I am also not interested in the garbage time prevent stat padding that was so commonplace in 2019.

If the Offense was so great and really the best Offense in football like you are trying to imply than they could have imposed their will on any team in the NFL last year. Therefore they would have at least made the playoffs or at least had a winning record.... or at least not fired just about all the coaches on the Offensive side of the football.

And truth be told I thought the Offense overall last year was good..... not when it actually mattered or when it counted. But overall I thought the Offense was good. They had an average QB surrounded by other great players on the Offense. Great players + Average QB= Pretty Good Offense. They actually elevated his play.

Get back to me when you can actually prove even ONE thing that I say that is incorrect..... LOL.

You know I am laughing at you right?
Dude I give up on you. You are a lost cause. Go back to my original post and point out ONE instance where I am wrong about ANY of the 8 losses.... I am not interested in the 8 wins where we beat 6 historically bad teams and incredibly pathetic Defenses. I am also not interested in the garbage time prevent stat padding that was so commonplace in 2019.

If the Offense was so great and really the best Offense in football like you are trying to imply than they could have imposed their will on any team in the NFL last year. Therefore they would have at least made the playoffs or at least had a winning record.... or at least not fired just about all the coaches on the Offensive side of the football.

And truth be told I thought the Offense overall last year was good..... not when it actually mattered or when it counted. But overall I thought the Offense was good. They had an average QB surrounded by other great players on the Offense. Great players + Average QB= Pretty Good Offense. They actually elevated his play.

Get back to me when you can actually prove even ONE thing that I say that is incorrect..... LOL.

You know I am laughing at you right?


Go back and prove all your 100% BS pure opinion filled nonsense as wrong? I don’t have to. Your post was full of myopic opinion and has very little fact other than the score totals. Your opinion also included you blaming Dak for losses where the defense gave up over 30 points.

It was stupid nonsense.

But you do seem like the mouth breathing type that wil say something idiotic and then laugh at others when they don’t agree with it.
 

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The #1 ranking for the offense was pretty much based on steamrolling horrific NFL teams, often at their weakest moments during the season.

The #1 ranked offense struggled against decent teams.

Defense getting steamrolled in some games was also related to the offense constantly having three and outs/struggling to execute first downs. The knock on effect for the defense was more time on the field in a shorter period of time and facing an offense with a strong starting field position.

There are of course other variables to those eight losses, but the one constant theme was Dak Prescott at quarterback starting every game and the offense faltered or struggled in all of those games and contributed to those losses.

How many of those games did Prescott throw for 500 yards, 5 touchdowns and 48 points? I wouldn't blame those type of losses on Prescott but think, by jove he did all that and we still lost.



Yeah the defense getting steamrolled some games was based just off the offense..... foolish.


The #2 offense at converting third downs, put the defense back on the field too quickly on a consistent basis. Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

Either post actual evidence to support that, or just stop already.
 

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Realistically and fairly, I put the 3 losses to the Saints, Patriots, and Eagles squarely on the back of Rayne Dakota and his sometimes AWOL offense. Garrett,Defense and ST's contributed heavily to the others.
 

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The #1 ranking for the offense was pretty much based on steamrolling horrific NFL teams, often at their weakest moments during the season.

The #1 ranked offense struggled against all good teams, except the Vikings.

Defense getting steamrolled in some games was also related to the offense constantly having three and outs/struggling to execute first downs. The knock on effect for the defense was more time on the field in a shorter period of time and facing an offense with a strong starting field position.

There are of course other variables to those eight losses, but the one constant theme was Dak Prescott at quarterback starting every game and the offense faltered or struggled in all of those games and contributed to those losses.

many of those games did Prescott throw for 500 yards, 5 touchdowns and help the team score 48 points? I wouldn't blame those type of losses on Prescott but think, by jove he did all that and we still lost.


by the way, If you think the QB needs to throw for 500 yards and 5 touchdowns in order to not be the main cause of a loss, I don’t know what to tell you. That shows incredible ignorance about how football games work. If a QB needs to throw for 500 yards and 5 Td’s to win. They would be winning in spite of their defense or special teams in that instance.

my goodness that example was just ridiculous.
 

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Realistically and fairly, I put the 3 losses to the Saints, Patriots, and Eagles squarely on the back of Rayne Dakota and his sometimes AWOL offense. Garrett,Defense and ST's contributed heavily to the others.

Fair.

Out of interest, how many games do you think Prescott played a huge part in the team winning or say a quarterback like Andy Dalton would have also won? For me, it's zero. That's the whole point about rewarding him with a huge long term contract...he is not worth it!
 

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Hey CFL player and football savant.

The Dallas Cowboys were #2 in the entire league in 3rd down conversion percentage last season. But please, keep telling me how the poor field position. Was due entirely to the offense going 3 and out, and had nothing to do with the defense or the worst special teams in the league.

And yes. Even a few yards per drive of field position makes a difference when there are hundreds of drives in an NFL season. The cowboys had to drive an additional 1100 yards to score, than the Patriots (best team in the league by field position) did this last season. By all means tell me how 1100 yards over the course of the season “doesn’t amount to much”.


After the word position you need to delete the period. Lowercase w. After the word yes delete the period. Lowercase e..... maybe go with a comma? But delete the comma after score........


Otherwise no 1 will now, What the f.... U are talkin, about
 

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Realistically and fairly, I put the 3 losses to the Saints, Patriots, and Eagles squarely on the back of Rayne Dakota and his sometimes AWOL offense. Garrett,Defense and ST's contributed heavily to the others.



I would agree. Dak was awful in those games. I am in no way arguing he was perfect or without blame. But blaming all 8 losses purely on Dak or the offense? That stuff is just lunacy.
 
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by the way, If you think the QB needs to throw for 500 yards and 5 touchdowns in order to not be the main cause of a loss, I don’t know what to tell you. That shows incredible ignorance about how football games work. If a QB needs to throw for 500 yards and 5 Td’s to win. They would be winning in spite of their defense or special teams in that instance.

my goodness that example was just ridiculous.

Of course I do not. I was making the point that some dumbos on here blame Tony Romo for losing against the Broncos in 2013 and a whole load of other games that he gave us a shot of winning against all odds.
 

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After the word position you need to delete the period. Lowercase w. After the word yes delete the period. Lowercase e..... maybe go with a comma? But delete the comma after score........


Otherwise no 1 will now, What the f.... U are talkin, about


Ahh correct the punctuation of my post, that was written out quickly and on a cell phone. That will show me. I guess you had to resort to that because you had no more football based nonsense to throw out.
 

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Of course I do not. I was making the point that some dumbos on here blame Tony Romo for losing against the Broncos in 2013 and a whole load of other games that he gave us a shot of winning against all odds.


Nobody is talking about Romo in this thread. He has been retired for 3 years now.
 

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After the word position you need to delete the period. Lowercase w. After the word yes delete the period. Lowercase e..... maybe go with a comma? But delete the comma after score........


Otherwise no 1 will now, What the f.... U are talkin, about
I think most people know it was a typing mistake and that you are just nitpicking
 

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Get back to me when you can actually prove even ONE thing that I say that is incorrect..... LOL.

Can I take a stab at this? Here is one thing:

2. The biggest reason why the Defense was bleeding points was because the Dak attack would go a quick 3 & out. Dallas completely changed and lost their identity this season. They stopped moving the chains and running the football.

4. A lot of the field position was because the Offense could not move the football at all. Even having drives of getting 1-2 first downs before punting would have been beneficial.

The defense wasn't bleeding points because the Dak attack would go 3 & out. The offense has been one of the very best teams in the league for many years at not going 3 & out. In 2019, the offense went 3&out 15.3% of their non-kneel down drives. That's 7th best in the league.

The offense had the 3rd best offensive drive success rate measured by either getting a first down or scoring a TD. They did this on 75.6% of their possessions.

The defense sucks all on their own. Whether it be after the opening kick off, opening the 2nd half, after a long drive, or after a 3&out. Our defense allows the opposing team to run a lot of plays and milk clock on them.
 

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Does it not bother you that if you have your way and Dak is here for the next 4-5 years, we will have squandered a top 5 offensive team?

5 years of futility with Dak and then our line is old, Zeke is fatter and slower and Amari begins to look like a no. 150th pick in the draft.

Before our window of opportunity closes, wouldn't it be great to have a great QB and not just a rich bus driver?
Think about it.

So its Dak's fault that the offensive linemen are aging? that Zeke is getting fatter? and Amari Cooper isn't what we thought he was? Do you really believe that if we draft a young QB, which you of course omitted how that would happen, that the OL would not get old, Zeke would not get fat and Cooper's skills would not diminish?

And a question for all you draft a QB and dump Dak guys, what happens in 5 years when your new guaranteed franchise QB asks for $60 million a year? You want to draft another QB? Then of course, what happens if the guy we draft at 17 turns out to be Josh Rosen? Then you all disappear and pretend you never advocated for getting rid of Dak.

You cannot run a football team with one hand on the panic button all the time. I have no problem franchising Dak this year if his agent demands more than $35 million a year. But the idea that we just draft another QB and he is automatically better than Dak is preposterous. You seem to have forgotten the Quincy Carter years.
 

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I would agree. Dak was awful in those games. I am in no way arguing he was perfect or without blame. But blaming all 8 losses on Dak or the offense? That stuff is just lunacy.

He had help in losing those games, that's why I included the offense as well. Zeke and the lineman have been inconsistent as well. We saw what it takes offensively to succeed. Ravens and Chiefs had consistent unstoppable offenses and Niners had that Defense and a consistent bruising running game. My mantra has been consistent in that Dakota can be serviceable here. but we better have cap room for a supporting cast......but that's up to the FO.

Its a no win situation for some of us. Personal fans of Dak want to see him break the bank, Hard core Critics dont want him at any cost. Some of us want him for the right price. But Jerry and the market determine his worth, accurately or not
 

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Go back and prove all your 100% BS pure opinion filled nonsense as wrong? I don’t have to. Your post was full of myopic opinion and has very little fact other than the score totals. Your opinion also included you blaming Dak for losses where the defense gave up over 30 points.

It was stupid nonsense.

But you do seem like the mouth breathing type that wil say something idiotic and then laugh at others when they don’t agree with it.



Again.... Laughing at you. The score totals as you call it is a pretty good way to measure things. The "score totals" is all the fact that I need.

Ummmm.... dude. The Defense only gave up 30+ points twice all season. Both games the Offense did nothing until garbage time. Packers 31-3. Bears 4th quarter down by 3 scores. So you just proved another one of my points the Defense actually gave us a chance to win in every single game. And also you are resurrecting another point that Dak greatly padded his stats in garbage time.... Thanks! In addition if the QB cannot overcome a Defense giving up point totals of 31 & 34 points.... why are we paying him so much money.

Listen it has been fun. But off to work I go. Maybe we should revisit this conversation after the 2020 season.

I am not laughing at others.... just YOU. You exhibit a "special" kind of intelligence.
 
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