News: Why the exclusive tag and not the non-exclusive tag on Dak?

[TheSkaven]

Fish brings up the topic in his latest column, but doesn’t provide any answers. What say you, Cowboys Zoners?

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...-exclusive-tag-for-dak-prescott-at-33-million

Given the gap (allegedly - we don’t know) in where both sides stand, this looks like it’s going to a franchise tag later this month.

Does anyone really think that another team would give up two 1’s for Dak Prescott? The difference between the two tags is $6M, not chump change, that’s a good player who could make a difference.

And so what if a team does sign him? Two first round picks is plenty of ammo to package and move up and get one of the stud QBs coming out of this draft.

Am I crazy here? Why would they put the more expensive tag on him?

 

[buybuydandavis]

Fish brings up the topic in his latest column, but doesn’t provide any answers. What say you, Cowboys Zoners?

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...-exclusive-tag-for-dak-prescott-at-33-million

Given the gap (allegedly - we don’t know) in where both sides stand, this looks like it’s going to a franchise tag later this month.

Does anyone really think that another team would give up two 1’s for Dak Prescott? The difference between the two tags is $6M, not chump change, that’s a good player who could make a difference.

And so what if a team does sign him? Two first round picks is plenty of ammo to package and move up and get one of the stud QBs coming out of this draft.

Am I crazy here? Why would they put the more expensive tag on him?

We gave up a projected mid 1st round pick for Cooper. Two late firsts are about the same draft value as a mid 1st pick. I could see a team likely to have late 1st round picks giving two firsts for a proven franchise QB.

 

[TheSkaven]

We gave up a projected mid 1st round pick for Cooper. Two late firsts are about the same draft value as a mid 1st pick. I could see a team likely to have late 1st round picks giving two firsts for a proven franchise QB.

What you are missing is that nearly all of the teams that need a quarterback are bad teams with high draft picks.

Here is the list of teams that legit need a starting quarterback in 2020:

Bengals (#1)
Lions (#3)
Dolphins (#5)
Chargers (#6)
Raiders (#12 and #18)
Colts (#13)
Buccaneers (#14)
Patriots (#23) - if they don’t resign Brady

So the worst case is the Pats, but giving up two firsts for a quarterback doesn’t seem like something in Belichick’s playbook.

But let’s say that he does do it. Now you have picks #17, #23 and the Pats’ first pick in 2021. According to Jimmy Johnson’s draft pick value chart, that’s 950 (#17), 760 (#23) and 350 (next year’s pick) = 2,060. That gets you up to the #3 pick overall, which means any QB except Burrow.

That’s not much of a downside.

 

[blindzebra]

It is really simple.
They offered 33, 6 years, 90 guaranteed.
The length and the 20 million less than what Goff got in guaranteed money is why the offer was not taken. The tag is 33, what they offered, their offer was already lowballing him based on what Wentz and Goff got, to put the lower tag would just be another slap in the face. They caved to Zeke when he had 2 years left on his deal. Zeke who has had off field issues, got suspended, and then held out. Dak played 4 years for nothing, has 40 wins, 2 division titles, did not hold out, and kept the contract from being a distraction, had his best statistical year, and played hurt the last month of the season.

The lack of respect the fans and the Jones' are showing him is pathetic.

 

[NeonNinja]

I do believe non-exclusive would be better but I doubt Jerry will go that route.

 

[Kaiser]

What you are missing is that nearly all of the teams that need a quarterback are bad teams with high draft picks.

Cowboy fans: "Sure, Dak is just as good as Goff or Wentz, but he hasn't won a Super Bowl".

Also Cowboy fans: "Why would any team trade half of the package teams gave up for Goff or Wentz for a guy who has proven to be as good or better?"

 

[Kaiser]

It is really simple.
They offered 33, 6 years, 90 guaranteed.

Do we know that was the offer? There is also media reports that Dak's agent started asking for the moon after his hot start, but I haven't seen anything that was definitive for either the ask or the offer.

 

[Doomsday]

I would use the non-exclusive to give Dak 7 million reasons to get a long term deal done.

Plus it lets his agent talk to other teams to see what his market value really is.

What is the downside, having the Chargers or some other team with a top 10 pick do something stupid?

 

[buybuydandavis]

What you are missing is that nearly all of the teams that need a quarterback are bad teams with high draft picks.

Here is the list of teams that legit need a starting quarterback in 2020:

Bengals (#1)
Lions (#3)
Dolphins (#5)
Chargers (#6)
Raiders (#12 and #18)
Colts (#13)
Buccaneers (#14)
Patriots (#23) - if they don’t resign Brady

So the worst case is the Pats, but giving up two firsts for a quarterback doesn’t seem like something in Belichick’s playbook.

But let’s say that he does do it. Now you have picks #17, #23 and the Pats’ first pick in 2021. According to Jimmy Johnson’s draft pick value chart, that’s 950 (#17), 760 (#23) and 350 (next year’s pick) = 2,060. That gets you up to the #3 pick overall, which means any QB except Burrow.

That’s not much of a downside.

I was only responding to whether a team would trade for Dak. I think maybe.

And I'd be happy with getting the picks.

 

[America's Cowboy]

This info is from back in 2013 after the last CBA was approved of:

MARCH 04, 2013

The franchise tag is a tool teams have to help manage the salary cap, but it's one players and agents abhor. Nothing says "security" like a one-year deal, right?

Here are the basic facts surrounding this tool.

Three Versions

There are three different categories teams have to choose from when using the franchise tag.

• Non-Exclusive Tag
• Exclusive Tag
• Transition Tag

Each designation carries with it different implications.

Non-Exclusive Tag

The most common usage of the franchise tag is the non-exclusive variety.

This designation is cheaper than the exclusive tag, but it comes with a slight risk.

Teams can offer non-exclusive tagged players a long-term contract, and the team using the tag then has the opportunity to either match that offer or receive two first-round draft picks in compensation.

The amount of money tagged players receive has changed since the NFL and NFLPA signed the new CBA. According to Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio, "Under Article 10, Section 2 of the CBA, the number is based on the five-year average cap percentage for the tag at each position."

Exclusive Tag

The most expensive version of the franchise tag is rarely used.

According to Spotrac.com, the definition of the exclusive tag is as follows:

An "exclusive" franchise player—not free to sign with another club—is offered a minimum of the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of April 16, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater.



Teams using this designation effectively secure the player tagged, though at an exorbitant cost.

Transition Tag

The transition tag is the cheapest of the three, though it carries with it the least amount of security for the team.

Using this designation allows a team to match any offer a player might receive, but there is absolutely no compensation in return, should the team refuse to match the offer.

Thus, this designation isn't one teams are keen on using.

https://syndication-bleacherreport-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1552109-nfl-franchise-tag-everything-you-need-to-know.amp.html?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE=#aoh=15832127370114&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s
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The Cowboys have said they would use an "exclusive" franchise tag to retain Dak for 2020, thus not allowing any other team to bid for him, plus also ensuring Dak remains a Cowboy for 2020 while giving the Cowboys time to negotiate a long term deal. The Cowboys also would have to pay Dak an average of the top 5 salaries at the player's position which I believe comes out to around $33 million.

Hope that explains it all.

 

[blindzebra]

Do we know that was the offer? There is also media reports that Dak's agent started asking for the moon after his hot start, but I haven't seen anything that was definitive for either the ask or the offer.

There was a complete breakdown of all the top 10 contracts and what Dallas offered by one of the guys covering the team. It was a follow up of the cap percentage vs winning QB piece a week or so ago.

It has been reported that Dak never asked for 40 and that it was years and guaranteed money that was holding things up. Dallas likes locking players up for 6 years and with all the new deals about to hit, no QB is going to do six years based on the current yearly average, especially when the guaranteed money is 17-20 million less than Wentz and Goff who both did 4 year deals.

That is why I think it will get done by not paying Dak yearly above Wilson, but getting him above Goff on guaranteed money, and splitting the difference between 6 and 4 years...so 33.5-34.5, 5 years, 115-120 guaranteed.

 

[Beaker42]

What you are missing is that nearly all of the teams that need a quarterback are bad teams with high draft picks.

Here is the list of teams that legit need a starting quarterback in 2020:

Bengals (#1)
Lions (#3)
Dolphins (#5)
Chargers (#6)
Raiders (#12 and #18)
Colts (#13)
Buccaneers (#14)
Patriots (#23) - if they don’t resign Brady

So the worst case is the Pats, but giving up two firsts for a quarterback doesn’t seem like something in Belichick’s playbook.

But let’s say that he does do it. Now you have picks #17, #23 and the Pats’ first pick in 2021. According to Jimmy Johnson’s draft pick value chart, that’s 950 (#17), 760 (#23) and 350 (next year’s pick) = 2,060. That gets you up to the #3 pick overall, which means any QB except Burrow.

That’s not much of a downside.

I can see the Raiders offering their two 1st’s for Dak.

 

[blindzebra]

I was only responding to whether a team would trade for Dak. I think maybe.

And I'd be happy with getting the picks.

Yeah because Parcells was wrong, QBs grow on trees. You do not trade away a proven, winning QB, who is durable, and coming off his best year. It is like you guys slept through the years between Aikman and Romo.

 

[America's Cowboy]

What you are missing is that nearly all of the teams that need a quarterback are bad teams with high draft picks.

Here is the list of teams that legit need a starting quarterback in 2020:

Bengals (#1)
Lions (#3)
Dolphins (#5)
Chargers (#6)
Raiders (#12 and #18)
Colts (#13)
Buccaneers (#14)
Patriots (#23) - if they don’t resign Brady

So the worst case is the Pats, but giving up two firsts for a quarterback doesn’t seem like something in Belichick’s playbook.

But let’s say that he does do it. Now you have picks #17, #23 and the Pats’ first pick in 2021. According to Jimmy Johnson’s draft pick value chart, that’s 950 (#17), 760 (#23) and 350 (next year’s pick) = 2,060. That gets you up to the #3 pick overall, which means any QB except Burrow.

That’s not much of a downside.

Bill Belichick and the Patriots would gladly give away two late 1st round picks for Dak if the Cowboys put the "non-exlusive" franchise tag on Dak. I guarantee it. Jerry and the Cowboys know this, hence why they said they would instead slap an "exclusive" tag on Dak, thus not allowing any team to bid for Dak. This would guarantee Dak stays a Cowboy for 2020 and allows the team time to work out a long term new contract extension.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I can see the Raiders offering their two 1st’s for Dak.

Why would they do that when they can buy Brady and keep both those 1st rounders?

 

[blindzebra]

Why would they do that when they can buy Brady and keep both those 1st rounders?

Dak hater logic. He is not good enough to keep and can be replaced by a rookie QB or a journeyman like Bridgewater, but he is so good that teams, in a position to draft a rookie or sign Bridgewater, will give up 2 firsts and pay him a big contract.

 

[America's Cowboy]

It is really simple.
They offered 33, 6 years, 90 guaranteed.
The length and the 20 million less than what Goff got in guaranteed money is why the offer was not taken. The tag is 33, what they offered, their offer was already lowballing him based on what Wentz and Goff got, to put the lower tag would just be another slap in the face. They caved to Zeke when he had 2 years left on his deal. Zeke who has had off field issues, got suspended, and then held out. Dak played 4 years for nothing, has 40 wins, 2 division titles, did not hold out, and kept the contract from being a distraction, had his best statistical year, and played hurt the last month of the season.

The lack of respect the fans and the Jones' are showing him is pathetic.

It is downright total disrespect fans and the Jones' are showing Dak with such putrid contract numbers. When I heard of these putrid numbers, I totally understand and support Dak holding out and demanding much better pay and respect because he has definitely earned it.

 

[starcity214]

It is really simple.
They offered 33, 6 years, 90 guaranteed.
The length and the 20 million less than what Goff got in guaranteed money is why the offer was not taken. The tag is 33, what they offered, their offer was already lowballing him based on what Wentz and Goff got, to put the lower tag would just be another slap in the face. They caved to Zeke when he had 2 years left on his deal. Zeke who has had off field issues, got suspended, and then held out. Dak played 4 years for nothing, has 40 wins, 2 division titles, did not hold out, and kept the contract from being a distraction, had his best statistical year, and played hurt the last month of the season.

The lack of respect the fans and the Jones' are showing him is pathetic.

Boohoo!! The lack of respect fans are showing Byron Jones is disgusting!! The man has been a yes-man his whole time here!! He changed positions without complaining multiple times and Is the type of guy I would hope my daughter dates some day !! So what if he's just an ok player? Pay the man!! Breakour team's salary cap, I don't care!! I just want to see my man Byron Jones get paid consequences be damned!! Byron Jones has won 40 games by the way and had his best year last year.. pay the man!! Haters!!

See how dumb that sounds?

 

[starcity214]

It is downright total disrespect fans and the Jones' are showing Dak with such putrid contract numbers. When I heard of these putrid numbers, I totally understand and support Dak holding out and demanding much better pay and respect because he has definitely earned it.

Ok Dak..

We get it.

Get your money.

But please do it somewhere like tampa where they don't care about winning and are used to mediocrity.

You obviously don't care about winning, so go get your money it's ok.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Ok Dak..

We get it.

Get your money.

But please do it somewhere like tampa where they don't care about winning and are used to mediocrity.

You obviously don't care about winning, so go get your money it's ok.

You should have said that to your idol whose picture you use as your avatar.

Don't be a hypocrite. It doesn't look good.