How many of you would take less?

HellCrowe

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Yeah well that's a silly point. If they need to sign someone they can manipulate the cap and move money around to do so. Every team does it. Because in years past i've seen guys take pay cuts just for their organization to do something stupid with that money.

Doesn’t that make you think why aren’t they? Idk if they think the world of Dak. I stand at “can get the job done.” When terms are right for both parties I can see money moved around. Until then we can use money elsewhere
 

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It's ridiculously funny to me that some keep saying "take less"!!!! Would you settle? Less money for your family? Less money for a career that might be cut short with and injury! Less money for a team that will cut you as soon as you slip? What the hell?? I get it, salary cap....blah, blah ,blah. I wouldn't settle and I sure as hell don't blame anyone that would.

Who cares?

I’m rooting for the Cowboys. Not Dak..

I don’t blame Dak for doing what he is doing.

I hope the Cowboys dominate him and any other free agent we have in contract negotiations as long as there is a salary cap.
 

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I can't answer that question because I make 27 dollars an hour as a toll collector. Every dollar I make counts. When someone is making 10s of millions a year, there is a different reason they want more. Besides that, what I'm being paid doesn't have a direct impact on me doing my job.

BTW. I used to make 33 an hour and took a pay cut to go to an easier job. But that's not really related.
The more money you make in this world the more expenses you have. So people saying "oh what's a few millions?"? That stuff adds up when you factor in your expenses. You guys think his team around him is going to take a pay cut?
 

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Doesn’t that make you think why aren’t they? Idk if they think the world of Dak. I stand at “can get the job done.” When terms are right for both parties I can see money moved around. Until then we can use money elsewhere
The Cowboys don't think the world of Dak? Yeah I don't see that.
 

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No it would not. And he's my argument for that myth.

You know what happens when teams are under the salary cap? They spend money on free agents. Do you know what free agents are? Players other teams either don't want or don't feel they are worth what they are asking. So that's what taking a pay cut gets you. Either guys past their prime or players other teams don't want. You just can't build a team that way.

Now when you are pressed against the cap what do you have to do? How do you get better? You are forced to draft better. To take less chances. To not get cute. This is how you want to build a team. It is the model the Chiefs will eventually have to do in order to keep talent around Mahomes. Same goes for the Eagles and Rams.
I’m not arguing against the importance of drafting being first and foremost the most important way of building a team. But free agents are not scrap heaps from other teams. Look at our situation. Quinn, Jones, Cooper and Dak. All good players that would help other teams. Dak is better with them and he needs help to win. Otherwise we wouldn’t have given up a first round pick for Cooper in the first place.
 

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I can't answer that question because I make 27 dollars an hour as a toll collector. Every dollar I make counts. When someone is making 10s of millions a year, there is a different reason they want more. Besides that, what I'm being paid doesn't have a direct impact on me doing my job.

BTW. I used to make 33 an hour and took a pay cut to go to an easier job. But that's not really related.
I took a 30k paycut once to get closer to my dad after my mom died. We all have our reasons.
 

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Let’s say Dak gets $35M as opposed to $33M... Who’s this $2M player that’s the difference between winning and losing?

The magic number is 33-35 even in September. Why hasn’t it been done, I think Dak wants upwards of that. Think 38-40.
 

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I dont blame dak for asking for whatever he wants, but people take less all the time. Dak just needs to figure out what is most important to him, and if it's the almighty dollar than so be it, but dont be surprised if the cowboys eventually start to look at other possibilities.

I do a ton of hiring for my company, and the people that typically are the happiest and stick around longest arent negotiating money. They are focused on benefits, culture, life balance, etc.

I think that's an area that a lot of middle class people really struggle to relate to Daks situation. If they are willing to take 10% less at 70k a year in exchange for other bonuses in the work place why arent professional athletes making 30MM+
 

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I’m not arguing against the importance of drafting being first and foremost the most important way of building a team. But free agents are not scrap heaps from other teams. Look at our situation. Quinn, Jones, Cooper and Dak. All good players that would help other teams. Dak is better with them and he needs help to win. Otherwise we wouldn’t have given up a first round pick for Cooper in the first place.

Its too early to tell if those are true free agents. Dak and Cooper will more than likely be retained. Robert Quinn will be retained for the right price. But Quinn and Jones are just that. For the right price they are good free agents. If you have to give Byron Jones 60 million guaranteed? Its foolish. And that's exactly my point. You don't get better giving guys like Quinn and Jones big money. You just don't. Mind you the Cowboys could afford to keep both if they wanted to but they fit the "we want them back at the right price" category. That's not a great free agent to give big money to IMO.
 

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The more money you make in this world the more expenses you have. So people saying "oh what's a few millions?"? That stuff adds up when you factor in your expenses. You guys think his team around him is going to take a pay cut?

I don't expect him to take a pay cut. My issue is comparing him to the average person. In my criticism of him I have never once suggested he take a team friendly deal. I was always in favor of him getting the most possible, just somewhere else.
 

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I don't expect him to take a pay cut. My issue is comparing him to the average person. In my criticism of him I have never once suggested he take a team friendly deal. I was always in favor of him getting the most possible, just somewhere else.
I respect that. Nothing bad about that. I'm a Dak fan but I also understand the potential issues that can come from giving him a big deal. I'd be less worried if we didn't re-sign Lawrence, Zeke, Jaylon and some of those linemen for big money. I don't think our offensive line is good enough to be getting paid the most money in the league like they do.
 

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I agree with the 33 million a year but his guarantee should be around what Goff and Wentz was offered 107-110. I would go 111 guarantee.
 

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It's ridiculously funny to me that some keep saying "take less"!!!! Would you settle? Less money for your family? Less money for a career that might be cut short with and injury! Less money for a team that will cut you as soon as you slip? What the hell?? I get it, salary cap....blah, blah ,blah. I wouldn't settle and I sure as hell don't blame anyone that would.


I'll take the one year at 33 million and call it a career, more than enough for numerous families....all these players are overpaid
 

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I respect that. Nothing bad about that. I'm a Dak fan but I also understand the potential issues that can come from giving him a big deal. I'd be less worried if we didn't re-sign Lawrence, Zeke, Jaylon and some of those linemen for big money. I don't think our offensive line is good enough to be getting paid the most money in the league like they do.

I agree on the O-Line. They did not look good over the last two years. Longevity is a tough thing in the NFL. Players can go from great to good rather quickly. I guess that's why their contracts have built in outs after 3-4 years. They really played well in '16. But four years later takes its toll. Right now I think our RT is very good. Imagine if the other 3 of 4 play up to their past potential? But I think the Cowboys are going to have to start replacing them. Soon.
 

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So winning doesn;t mean a team fitting the best players possible under the budget????? Okay, so then let Dak take all he can get and Dallas doesn't re-sogn Amari Cooper and eventually has to cut some of the o-linemen and see how good Dak is with all that money.
There you go thinking like a dull crayon again. :rolleyes: If Dak gets the new contract then Amari gets the tag. The guys under contract aren't being cut. LOL You should stick to something you know about like KP duty and let the football talk be done by others. LOL
 

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Let’s say Dak gets $35M as opposed to $33M... Who’s this $2M player that’s the difference between winning and losing?
Bingo - the Brady numbers were more like 10 million plus below his market value. Even 5 mil less promises nothing. So many variables it is ridiculous to comment on it.
 
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