Who is more important to keep: Byron or Quinn?

[ehwqkbmg]

The draft has a lot of CB's, while next to no good edge rushers. Go with Quinn.

Especially if the rumors are true that Jones will get overpaid.

 

[Malhavoc]

Jones is going to be overpaid. Quinn will also be overpaid. I would personally prefer someone like JPP who is still a very good player and may be willing to accept a short term deal.

 

[KJJ]

Jones has given up more big plays than he’s made big plays. He gave up the big pass from Aaron Rodgers in the final seconds in the 2016 playoffs that helped get us beat and he gave up another big pass down the field in the final minutes against Seattle in the 2018 playoffs that could have cost us that game. Not trying to bury Jones but he’s had more impactful plays made against him than impactful plays he’s made.

 

[zrinkill]

Pass rush is always better

 

[Alexander]

Pass rush is always better

They are much harder to find in the short term, especially in this draft. Keeping Quinn is vital IMO, unless we want to take a step backwards in terms of the rush.

 

[Creeper]

It depends. Who do they get to play DT? Is Gregory coming back and can he play still? How much does Quinn want to sign with the Cowboys? I think Quinn is going to want and get more than the Cowboys paid him in 2019 which as about $8 million. I would not be shocked if Quinn asked for $13-15 million. I would not be shocked if he got offers that high or even a little higher. Byron is going to get offers over $15 million and he could get one from the Eagles who will pay extra to keep him from signing with Dallas.

To me DE and CB are a distraction. The problem is DT. That is the priority on defense and the Cowboys need to solve it before anything else If they get a couple of quality DTs in free agency they can draft a CB in the first round and not think twice about it. That solves the Jones problem and also mitigates to some degree the loss of Quinn. They can live with a strong DT or two and Joe Jackson and Dorance Armstrong outside, along with Gregory if he is reinstated.

And btw, if they did not shove Taco in the dog house and leave him there so he couldn't play his way out of it, then they would have him for the DE rotation too and honestly, that would not be a terrible option considering where they need to dedicate their cap space.

 

[zrinkill]

A good pass rush makes an average DB look good.

You can have an all pro Dbackfield ......... and a bad pass rush will make them look average,

 

[DoctorChicken]

Keep Quinn, so we can use our early picks on (hopefully) a safety instead of another DE pick.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Bryon Jones was once an average Free Safety whose best ability was his covering the TE. Kris Richard moved him immediately to corner and he had his best season as a Cowboy. He followed it up with a strong season last year coming off hip surgery. Highly durable, has never missed a game, great locker room guy. As a shadow, press corner, very good, anything else very average.

Robert Quinn was acquired via trade with the Dolphins last year. He was coming off of an average sack year, but with the Cowboys he registered 11.5 sacks in just 14 games due to a suspension to start the year. Throughout last year, he certainly looked like an elite, edge rusher. He does have an injury history, but hasn't missed a healthy start in two seasons. Not a great run defender, more of a very good pass rusher.

Both players have some question marks. Fa dollars at each respective position is extremely costly. Byron due to his age, is going to cost much more on the open market, where Quinn is looking one last big contract.

As of fa and the draft, this year's class has more quality corners then edge rushers available, especially in the draft. You aren't going to replace either's production.

In my opinion, Robert Quinn is more of the wildcard, due to his age, injury past, where we know what we are getting with Bryon Jones, an durable, consistent starter. However, the deciding factor who makes my game changing plays? Robert Quinn and it's not even close.

Neither. Byron can be replaced by a rookie FR pick. Quinn, although a good pass rusher, is horrid against he run. Need to spend money on a couple of very good DT's.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The draft has a lot of CB's, while next to no good edge rushers. Go with Quinn.

Especially if the rumors are true that Jones will get overpaid.

What has the Cowboys defense accomplished with those two players last year? Nothing at all.

They are both a perfect example of what we no longer need. One dimensional players that are expensive.

Let them both walk. The Dline needs DT's and the secondary needs playmakers.

 

[Flamma]

I don't think we're keeping either.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Bryon Jones was once an average Free Safety whose best ability was his covering the TE. Kris Richard moved him immediately to corner and he had his best season as a Cowboy. He followed it up with a strong season last year coming off hip surgery. Highly durable, has never missed a game, great locker room guy. As a shadow, press corner, very good, anything else very average.

Robert Quinn was acquired via trade with the Dolphins last year. He was coming off of an average sack year, but with the Cowboys he registered 11.5 sacks in just 14 games due to a suspension to start the year. Throughout last year, he certainly looked like an elite, edge rusher. He does have an injury history, but hasn't missed a healthy start in two seasons. Not a great run defender, more of a very good pass rusher.

Both players have some question marks. Fa dollars at each respective position is extremely costly. Byron due to his age, is going to cost much more on the open market, where Quinn is looking one last big contract.

As of fa and the draft, this year's class has more quality corners then edge rushers available, especially in the draft. You aren't going to replace either's production.

In my opinion, Robert Quinn is more of the wildcard, due to his age, injury past, where we know what we are getting with Bryon Jones, an durable, consistent starter. However, the deciding factor who makes my game changing plays? Robert Quinn and it's not even close.

This is very easy. Quinn, he led the Cowboys in sacks and forced as many turnovers last season as Jones has his entire career.
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[Ranched]

In Dallas' eyes, it's not about whose more important as it is about whose more affordable.

 

[gjkoeppen]

I would say Byron because we have more depth at DE and Randy coming back.

Gee I missed where it was announced that Gregory was resigned or for that matter reinstated. Ya ya if the new CBA is ratified it will open the door for him to get reinstated but that by no means it's a certainty that the Cowboys resign him. Most talking heads say it's a very long shot that it happens.
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[Kevinicus]

Just cannot rely on Gregory in any capacity.

The only capacity he has shown tobe unteliable is passing drug tests. If that is not a factor, I don't think your statement is true at all.

 

[KeepinTime]

Doesn’t matter. Byron’s out the door and I doubt Jerry’s ponying up his Johnny Walker Black money for Quinn.

 

[batman36]

Gee I missed where it was announced that Gregory was resigned or for that matter reinstated. Ya ya if the new CBA is ratified it will open the door for him to get reinstated but that by no means it's a certainty that the Cowboys resign him. Most talking heads say it's a very long shot that it happens.
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Randy Gregory remains under contract to the Cowboys for several more seasons. Because of multiple suspensions, he hasn't accrued full seasons yet on his rookie deal.

 

[charron]

Depends on cost.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Bryon Jones was once an average Free Safety whose best ability was his covering the TE. Kris Richard moved him immediately to corner and he had his best season as a Cowboy. He followed it up with a strong season last year coming off hip surgery. Highly durable, has never missed a game, great locker room guy. As a shadow, press corner, very good, anything else very average.

Robert Quinn was acquired via trade with the Dolphins last year. He was coming off of an average sack year, but with the Cowboys he registered 11.5 sacks in just 14 games due to a suspension to start the year. Throughout last year, he certainly looked like an elite, edge rusher. He does have an injury history, but hasn't missed a healthy start in two seasons. Not a great run defender, more of a very good pass rusher.

Both players have some question marks. Fa dollars at each respective position is extremely costly. Byron due to his age, is going to cost much more on the open market, where Quinn is looking one last big contract.

As of fa and the draft, this year's class has more quality corners then edge rushers available, especially in the draft. You aren't going to replace either's production.

In my opinion, Robert Quinn is more of the wildcard, due to his age, injury past, where we know what we are getting with Bryon Jones, an durable, consistent starter. However, the deciding factor who makes my game changing plays? Robert Quinn and it's not even close.

I am astounded that this would be a choice but Byron is and will be a building block.
Please. Be real and happening.

 

[ultron]

How would you guys rate Quinn's run defense? Didn't really notice he was bad or anything.

He’s beyond horrible against the run, he’s 265lbs and gets dominated against the run and decent LT’s. He took 650ish snaps last year and put pressure on the QB roughly 50 times AND WAS NEVER DOUBLE TEAMED. So in 600 other plays he was as useless as you and I sitting on our couch. The guy is horrendous and if I’m the Cowboys I couldn’t get him out of here fast enough. Anyone that would take this guy over a pro-bowl level #1 CB needs to turn in their keyboard and exit stage left. This guy literally costed us a playoff birth last year - go watch film on All22. Absolute dog crap.