News: Cowboys placed exclusive franchise tag on Prescott

jaythecowboy

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The article you posted. It post details from the offer made Feb and then goes on to say that not much has changed. I don't understand the confusion here. The article is not giving any new info. It's not giving any facts at all. It's quoting "trusted sources" and doesn't name them. I guess if you wish to believe that the team is offering 105 for 7 years, you can do that. But honestly, do you really believe they would do that? I mean, the article mentions that the AAV is in the area of 33. The numbers don't work on that.

Pretty much everything put out there is heresay anyway but you haven't posted anything disputing what I've said. And I highly doubt you will see any reports where the author names their sources. I have not even seen any info of these multiple offers you keep claiming. The only offers I've seen reports of in months were one with about $90 million guaranteed (which later it came out that was before the season started) and the latest was $105 million guaranteed. Not saying there haven't been other offers but I haven't seen those reports.

You seem to be getting the guaranteed money confused with the total contract (or think I am). The total contract on a 7-year deal with $34 million AAV would be $238 million. But only the guaranteed money really counts, which in that offer was $105 million. So basically only 3 years are guaranteed. But then the Cowboys would still have his rights for up to four more years with no guaranteed money. It wouldn't be in Dak's interest to sign a contract like that.
 

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They signed a retreads head coach bored with playing Mr.Mom. that's worthy of praise according to KC and the Sunshine Band of the zone.
My thing is Jerry and Co. don't actually have a plan in place. Basically trading a #1 pick for a wr that you knew was due a contract you didn't sign immediately. If you didn't want to sign him you shouldn't have traded for him. Dak should have been signed after 2018 in a down year due to wr by committee and banged up o line that played terribly. But we sign zeke and jaylon. This team is led by drunks that actually don't know wth they are doing. With 3 top guys going to hit FA we actually didn't sign any of them? lol
 

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*wasted* tag on Dak, at least entertain offers with a non-exclusive and look to develop the next guy with extra picks in your pocket. Now it's pretty much guaranteed he's here for a year and most likely won't draft a QB with the pick we have.
 

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Pretty much everything put out there is heresay anyway but you haven't posted anything disputing what I've said. And I highly doubt you will see any reports where the author names their sources. I have not even seen any info of these multiple offers you keep claiming. The only offers I've seen reports of in months were one with about $90 million guaranteed (which later it came out that was before the season started) and the latest was $105 million guaranteed. Not saying there haven't been other offers but I haven't seen those reports.

You seem to be getting the guaranteed money confused with the total contract (or think I am). The total contract on a 7-year deal with $34 million AAV would be $238 million. But only the guaranteed money really counts, which in that offer was $105 million. So basically only 3 years are guaranteed. But then the Cowboys would still have his rights for up to four more years with no guaranteed money.

No, because I have nothing that is actually confirmed, which is what I am trying to say here. We have no details that we are certain of. That's the point. But we have seen tweets from several sources that are close to the team that suggest the team is offering 33/34 with 105 or more depending on length of contract. None of it is real because we haven't seen anything official. But I don't think it's a good idea to just assume that the team is offering Dak a terrible deal. I don't think they are offering 40/38 over three years, fully guaranteed but but I do think they are offering a deal that is at the top, if not the top deal, in the NFL to Dak.
 

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Spare me the sassy trying to get even retort that doesn't even make expletive sense. What post of mine said that others don't think differently than em regarding Dak? You can't just post emotional junk that doesn't even fit just because. Who said what I thinks matters in regards to what they do? Again more sassy non sense from you. I'm posting just like you and none of what we say means nothing but I guess nice your brown nosing the FO you feel more important smh. Sit down sassy

:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2: Brown nosing the FO? WOW!!!!!!!!!!! I originally brought up an issue with FO about certain contracts and YOU told ME to stop talking about something that I disagreed with the FO for doing. But, you obviously felt butt hurt because this all ties into your hate for Dak and wanting him gone and I didn't agree with you. So, call me all the playful names you want - I have my opinion and you have yours. Good Day Sir
 

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No chance of a deal being done before the season. Setting aside any reservations about Dak, no prudent front office will give a long term contract in circumstances where they dont have to AND the QB has not played under the current coaching staff. No decision needs to be made until early 2021.

I think this is the Garrett strategy again - one year to win or you're gone.
 

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No, because I have nothing that is actually confirmed, which is what I am trying to say here. We have no details that we are certain of. That's the point. But we have seen tweets from several sources that are close to the team that suggest the team is offering 33/34 with 105 or more depending on length of contract. None of it is real because we haven't seen anything official. But I don't think it's a good idea to just assume that the team is offering Dak a terrible deal. I don't think they are offering 40/38 over three years, fully guaranteed but but I do think they are offering a deal that is at the top, if not the top deal, in the NFL to Dak.

I just think it is more probable that the deal is for 5 or 6 years based on the information out there. I'm not disputing the reporting on the AAV or guaranteed money. Like I said before, the fact that the years weren't included in the report feels to me like the Cowboys are trying to push a narrative in the media.
 
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With the Tannehill and Cousins contracts Dak’s deal is getting more expensive by the day.

We’ve said all along the longer the Cowboys wait the more they are going to have to pay.

If Jerry had offered an overly generous contract right after the 2018 season the team would be in a much better place now.
 

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May be a silly question, but if we resign Cooper, and a couple of our players/start getting players in free agency, will that put pressure on Dak’s side to meet in the middle?

Do you guys feel like maybe that’s what happened with zeke, when we resigned Jaylon, and Collins last year? Might have not been on purpose but seeing less money in the pool(while the boys were also in talks with Dak and Amari resigning) maybe helped zeke stop his hold out. Maybe I’m just over thinking haha

I think you might be onto something here. I do think that may be partially the reason for it. Bit of a gamble though having let it go on this late cuz we do need to resign Coop for that to work. And Coop likely knows it. At the same time though, QB contracts can be very difficult because they normally eat most of the cap, and you want to keep your core as much as possible.
 

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This front office is asleep at the wheel. Didn't accomplish a single thing since the season ended.

This is absolutely right. From the moment the full time whistle sounded after the Commanders game, our FO should've called Coops and Dak's agents and said we need to talk. Not wait until the bloody combine to decide, "Hang on a minute! Perhaps we should talk to the agents. We might want a Quarterback next year, and we might want to hang onto a WR that we surrendered a first round pick for. Yes, let's meet with the agents." I don't mind that they're franchising Dak to buy time, but I was very bothered when I saw the FO hadn't even SPOKEN to either agent since September. That's stupid and is why we're in this mess to begin with. I'd imagine franchising was always going to happen with Dak to get extra time. But they've really created an unforced error with Coop.
 

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Or conversely, the homers who will sheepishly applaud anything the team does.
:rolleyes:

Haven’t seen too many who applaud ANYTHING! If you’re not consistently critical, does that make you a “homer”? Are all optimistic people misinformed?
 

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I think you might be onto something here. I do think that may be partially the reason for it. Bit of a gamble though having let it go on this late cuz we do need to resign Coop for that to work. And Coop likely knows it. At the same time though, QB contracts can be very difficult because they normally eat most of the cap, and you want to keep your core as much as possible.
I agree! Honestly, hope we can keep Cooper though, we’ve spent more to get him than Dak, hopefully we keep both
 

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I knew Monday would be interesting. I'm surprised. I halfway believed Big Daddy Jerry would cave in the 11th hour.

On the other hand, I said if Dak plays for the Cowboys he'd play at my price or sit out. I still would have rather seen the non exclusive to set a true market value, but it is what it is. And he's still going to play for less than the offer, or he doesn't play.

He may ruin the Cowboys year by sitting out, but he very well may be ruining his career by doing so.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Oh yeah.....

ANOTHER DAK THREAD?
 

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Haven’t seen too many who applaud ANYTHING! If you’re not consistently critical, does that make you a “homer”? Are all optimistic people misinformed?

Is this the part where you tell me and everyone else what the distinctions are?

How exactly should we think? Since you seem to be the self-appointed authority on it?

:rolleyes:
 

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I agree! Honestly, hope we can keep Cooper though, we’ve spent more to get him than Dak, hopefully we keep both

We really must keep Coop. For three reasons. Firstly, we spent a 1st and let likely helpful resources that our defence likely needed last year pass for a WR we undoubtedly needed. Secondly, even if Dak can't be kept (which I think he can and we haven't even bloody used cap resources like restructuring of cap cuts to help), you do want your next QB to have one of the top WRs. Thirdly, with how quiet we are in FA, it sends a bit of a message to the fans saying, we have cap space, we just haven't the foggiest of how to use it. I mean, honestly! What the bloody hell else are we going to use our cap space for?
 
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