Dak benefit of the doubt will be gone with fans

[basel90]

What were the Eagles and Rams records? Did they not have winning records?

yes but rams did not go to the playoffs and the win against is eagles is the only win against a playoff team., but we lost to them in the final game

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

yes but rams did not go to the playoffs and the win against is eagles is the only win against a playoff team., but we lost to them in the final game

So why do you say he was 1-6 against winning teams? You mean 1-6 against teams that made the playoffs? Even though if the Rams would've beat the Cowboys they would've had 10 wins just like the Vikings?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Wait you are saying without the injuries? Of course he wouldn't have without the injuries. But fact is there were injuries and Romo was getting hurt in his last few years in the league. Brady probably doesn't come into the game in 2001 if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt. But he did.

So you think they signed Flynn to a 3 year 20 million dollar deal to be a backup to Russell Wilson who was competing for a starting job?

What excuses did I make? The coaching staff sucked. That's why they are gone now. It wasn't because they were good.

And what question are you asking me? Was what a bad thing for Prescott?

So what. A competent staff might have brought in a decent QB to be the starter or preferably, would have already had one on the roster. We did neither. We decided to simply go with our third string guy, who BTW, was not even going to start over Moore.

I don't think, I know, the Flynn deal was actually a one year, 10 mil deal. I think Seattle signed him to come in and compete and give them an option. I also think you have not answered the question I asked, which was, who among the Seattle staff said that Flynn was signed to be the starter? I think you are deflecting because this is a terrible example supporting whatever point you are trying to make. Honestly, it's a bad example and you continue to push it. Why? Just say it's a poor example and move on. I'm not wrong here. I'm 100% correct but you would rather argue the point. Well, that's fine but if you insist on this, then just answer the question I put to you. Who said he was the named starter when he was signed within the Seattle organization? If you can't answer that, then all it is is a bunch of talking heads speculating.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So what. A competent staff might have brought in a decent QB to be the starter or preferably, would have already had one on the roster. We did neither. We decided to simply go with our third string guy, who BTW, was not even going to start over Moore.

I don't think, I know, the Flynn deal was actually a one year, 10 mil deal. I think Seattle signed him to come in and compete and give them an option. I also think you have not answered the question I asked, which was, who among the Seattle staff said that Flynn was signed to be the starter? I think you are deflecting because this is a terrible example supporting whatever point you are trying to make. Honestly, it's a bad example and you continue to push it. Why? Just say it's a poor example and move on. I'm not wrong here. I'm 100% correct but you would rather argue the point. Well, that's fine but if you insist on this, then just answer the question I put to you. Who said he was the named starter when he was signed within the Seattle organization? If you can't answer that, then all it is is a bunch of talking heads speculating.

So, when the Seahawks signed the quarterback, they were hoping that he would be the next Matt Hasselbeck; a Green Bay backup who comes to Seattle and establishes himself as the franchise quarterback for the next 10 years.
https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/22/defending-the-seahawks-signing-of-qb-matt-flynn/

Answered that question.

On to the next one.......

I didn't deflect anything. Every example I give you are the one who disagrees with it. Every time. You are arguing me down about the Seahawks but I also brought up what the Pats did with Brady and Bledsoe.....but I'm deflecting?

And it is not a poor example. You just disagree with it but that doesn't make it poor because you don't understand it or agree with it. If its not sunshine and lollipops you are going to disagree with it. Especially when it comes from me.

I've said everything I will say on this issue. You feel you are and I quote "100% correct". So when someone is in that state of mind there's nothing I can say. You will argue and rebuttal every point I make even with no facts backing it up.

 

[basel90]

So why do you say he was 1-6 against winning teams? You mean 1-6 against teams that made the playoffs? Even though if the Rams would've beat the Cowboys they would've had 10 wins just like the Vikings?

correct, playoff teams

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's what you base my posts on, my like's counts? Dak-rocyaice, your obsession just has to be something other than Dak's QB skills. Try honing your reading and comprehension skills! Nobody said "coach up players"! That's uhh...oh yeah not the same as "elevate" the players around him, which he does not do unless he has elite talent around him! God god, dude! Your obsession with Dak is beyond belief.

Hey, all you fellow posters, Dak-rocyaice say's it's not Dak's job to elevate the players around him. What a tool...there is something else going on with your love affair with Dak, many of us poster see that because it's so transparent.

Who is in your avatar? Don't you think it's about time to put a picture of your lover boy, Dak, in there instead? smdh!

If the best thing you can say is Dak-rocyaice......that's far more telling than your "likes" lol.

And let's keep it real.....you found your balls because I've been going at it with other trolls like Super and Phil. Like I told WillieBeamen earlier....if you want to find out how to troll me take notes from them. They are far better at doing it. "Dak-rocyaice" and "loverly" ain't gonna do it though fam.........like look at Super....he tried to rile me up earlier by asking me "why do you have a dead rapper that sucks as your avatar.."....now this is a failed attempt at trolling....but he at least put a effort in and did a google search.

 

[BigCatMonaco]

Someone brought up Russell Wilson deserving the money based on how he played.


Let’s compare their first four seasons.

Dak
118 TD
36 INT
16,999 total yards

Russ
118 TD
34 INT
16,404 total yards


Russ had the LOB and a top defense helping him on the other side of the ball.

playoffs per game over their first four

Dak
283 ypg
2.4 TD Per game
0.7 INT per game


Russ
270 YPG
1.8 TD per game
.9 INT per game

 

[5Stars]

If the best thing you can say is Dak-rocyaice......that's far more telling than your "likes" lol.

And let's keep it real.....you found your balls because I've been going at it with other trolls like Super and Phil. Like I told WillieBeamen earlier....if you want to find out how to troll me take notes from them. They are far better at doing it. "Dak-rocyaice" and "loverly" ain't gonna do it though fam.........like look at Super....he tried to rile me up earlier by asking me "why do you have a dead rapper that sucks as your avatar.."....now this is a failed attempt at trolling....but he at least put a effort in and did a google search.

lol...Dance KoKo....coach up or elevate? Dude, you are so transparent people can see right through you. Is there anything disparaging that you can say about Dak? Huh...anything? Or is Dak one of the best people on the planet at playing football? "Let's keep it real"...lol.

Try it, you might like it. (by the way, rap sucks...but I bet dak loves it!).

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

lol...Dance KoKo....coach up or elevate? Dude, you are so transparent people can see right through you. Is there anything disparaging that you can say about Dak? Huh...anything? Or is Dak one of the best people on the planet at playing football? "Let's keep it real"...lol.

Try it, you might like it. (by the way, rap sucks...but I bet dak loves it!).

On a scale from 1-10 I give this troll attempt a 2. There's a effort there butt there but still not up to par. You gotta be a little edgier. You have to have a *** type attitude like the others.

Try being a little edgier. Less pastor and more edgy.......give it a shot.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

So, when the Seahawks signed the quarterback, they were hoping that he would be the next Matt Hasselbeck; a Green Bay backup who comes to Seattle and establishes himself as the franchise quarterback for the next 10 years.
https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/22/defending-the-seahawks-signing-of-qb-matt-flynn/

Answered that question.

On to the next one.......

I didn't deflect anything. Every example I give you are the one who disagrees with it. Every time. You are arguing me down about the Seahawks but I also brought up what the Pats did with Brady and Bledsoe.....but I'm deflecting?

And it is not a poor example. You just disagree with it but that doesn't make it poor because you don't understand it or agree with it. If its not sunshine and lollipops you are going to disagree with it. Especially when it comes from me.

I've said everything I will say on this issue. You feel you are and I quote "100% correct". So when someone is in that state of mind there's nothing I can say. You will argue and rebuttal every point I make even with no facts backing it up.

OK, so I read the link you posted. I saw nothing in that piece that quotes anybody from Seahawks organization. You didn't really answer the question I asked. BTW, in 2012, the Seahawks had 30 mil in cap space. This was in a year where the cap was 120 mil. So basically, Seattle had to spend a quarter of their available cap space and they had every body signed. See, I remember that deal and one thing I don't remember was Carroll saying that they were bringing in Flynn as their starter. I remember him saying they wanted him to come in and compete. I also remember him talking about how much they loved Wilson.

Basically, both examples were poor. I don't know what to tell you.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

OK, so I read the link you posted. I saw nothing in that piece that quotes anybody from Seahawks organization. You didn't really answer the question I asked. BTW, in 2012, the Seahawks had 30 mil in cap space. This was in a year where the cap was 120 mil. So basically, Seattle had to spend a quarter of their available cap space and they had every body signed. See, I remember that deal and one thing I don't remember was Carroll saying that they were bringing in Flynn as their starter. I remember him saying they wanted him to come in and compete. I also remember him talking about how much they loved Wilson.

Basically, both examples were poor. I don't know what to tell you.

Ok. I'm done arguing about it. If the examples went over your head that's on you. I made the mistake of trying to debate and you aren't escaping that bubble.

 

[5Stars]

On a scale from 1-10 I give this troll attempt a 2. There's a effort there butt there but still not up to par. You gotta be a little edgier. You have to have a *** type attitude like the others.

Try being a little edgier. Less pastor and more edgy.......give it a shot.

You know, there is something I like about you. I do admire you for sticking to your guns, brother man. (not sure which sucks more, rap or dak).

 

[5Stars]

Ok. I'm done arguing about it. If the examples went over your head that's on you. I made the mistake of trying to debate and you aren't escaping that bubble.

Bro, this is the first thing you said right today! lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You know, there is something I like about you. I do admire you for sticking to your guns, brother man. (not sure which sucks more, rap or dak).

Oh god.....a "brother man" reference. This troll job is more of a -2. I gave you a 1 for referencing Dak.....then I upped it to a 2 for the "rap sucks" attack. But then the "brother man" deducted you -4 points. Troll attempt = -2.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Bro, this is the first thing you said right today! lol

Troll attempt = a 4. Decent attempt. Would've gave you a 5 but I deducted a point because you aren't minding your damn business.

 

[5Stars]

Troll attempt = a 4. Decent attempt. Would've gave you a 5 but I deducted a point because you aren't minding your damn business.

It's all good, dog! Talk to me now!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ok. I'm done arguing about it. If the examples went over your head that's on you. I made the mistake of trying to debate and you aren't escaping that bubble.

They did not go over my head. They just were not very good Rocy. The problem here is that you have gotten away from what you normally do. Normally, you don't try to defend poor positions. Normally, you are very thoughtful in your stated position but in this case, you can not defend the position because it's just not a good one. Look, I respect you as a poster. I don't agree with you about a lot of points but I do respect your opinions. In this case, they are not particularly strong and this is why we are where we are.

As I said, I am not wrong on this but I get it, you don't want to do that in this case.

Think about what I proposed and then give it a rational once over. I said that the idea that poor coaching was a detriment to Dak may not actually be the truth. Did it help him in game situations etc? I think you can definitely make a case that it did not but, it certainly helped him to get the opportunity to play. It helped him get to the position he is in now contractually. If you really look at it, Dak is blessed that he had the Coaching Staff he did because he probably wouldn't have been the day one starter. Belichick didn't start the best QB in the history of the game as a rookie. The example of Seattle and Flynn was just a bad example because Tarvaris was terrible as the incumbent starter in Seattle. He threw as many INTs as TDs in 2011. Hasselbeck was the guy in Seattle, who had retired the year before so in actuality, Seattle had no QB. There was no real option for them and a rookie was just as likely to be the starter as was anybody they brought in. Flynn was never any good. In 7 seasons, he started 7 games and went 3-4. I'm sorry, that guy was never starting material so to compare that situation to Dak in Dallas is just inaccurate. It doesn't work because it's not the same situation.

You are defending a poor position and that's not your thing. If you want to continue to do that, OK, but you are better then that.

Have a good weekend.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's all good, dog! Talk to me now!

You are back to trying too hard.........

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What is this supposed to prove?

So if I said, "People who are honest and say things other people don't want to hear are often not received well. People who are "yes men" and often say exactly what they think every wants to hear often turn to politics and get a lot of likes." what do you think that would prove?

What is this in response to?

 

[Typhus]

The defense played better before he did lol. He didn't catch on fire until later in the season. Not only that but look at the Super Bowl....he started off slow. His defense was bailing him out.

OK man,,, you see it your way IC it my way,, its all good, and I love ya bro.... and all dat~!