Can we get a first rounder if we trade Dak?

[basel90]

basel there Dak fans first then Cowboy fans and if that at this point.


All they care about is DAK DAK DAK DAK DAK DAK (pretty sure some here get paid for this) and the bigger the contract the better.
They have no other considerations about TEAM TEAM TEAM TEAM.
Ignore them or simply laugh cause at the end of the day that's all there pretty good for ......

Thanks PappyDog . We are fans and want to win a super bowl , not glorify a mediocre QB and deflate any blame .

 

[basel90]

probably gets you two 1st round picks.

Would be a steal if we do get that .

 

[basel90]

Do you have an agenda

Nope . Just to have the cowboys win a super bowl . We cannot keep making excuses for Dak .

 

[Whirlwin]

Do you? Dak Cheerleader.......

Cheerleader no. Defending yes. You don’t know the difference of a lot of things I’m understanding.

 

[Whirlwin]

Nope . Just to have the cowboys win a super bowl . We cannot keep making excuses for Dak .

Who’s making excuses. Reality is the coach suck even when we had Tony. It baffles to bring that people don’t get that

 

[Whirlwin]

Thanks PappyDog . We are fans and want to win a super bowl , not glorify a mediocre QB and deflate any blame .

Look at the crowd you’re with LMAO. They hate Prescott. I talk to them you have to understand why they hate this quarterback. How do you take over America’s team. When we had Romo. There’s an agenda with them. And they’ll tell you

 

[Whirlwin]

Thanks PappyDog . We are fans and want to win a super bowl , not glorify a mediocre QB and deflate any blame .

People don’t wanna pay Prescott they don’t think he’s worth it. But they’re willing to give him away plus draft picks for somebody that’s unknown. That’s just as ridiculous in my opinion. I know we have an a quarterback and I believe the kid is a winner. But it takes a team to win not just a quarterback not just a running back. Again people just see what they want to see

 

[Swagger]

People don’t wanna pay Prescott they don’t think he’s worth it. But they’re willing to give him away plus draft picks for somebody that’s unknown. That’s just as ridiculous in my opinion. I know we have an a quarterback and I believe the kid is a winner. But it takes a team to win not just a quarterback not just a running back. Again people just see what they want to see

Sometimes you need to pull the plug and give it a go. Herschel Walker anyone...

Whatever way people dress it up, Prescott has played on a good and at times, very good team over the past four years.

Throughout that period he has had...
exceptional/very good offensive line;
excellent/very good running game;
more than enough weapons to get it done except a few games in between Dez and Amari;
very good/good/average defense throughout;
special teams has been average/below average/poor throughout;
coaching has been indifferent, in game adjustments and game management generally below average/poor at times. But Coach Garrett was Coach of the Year in 2016 and we finished 13-3 with a rookie QB and limited play book so he isn't the worst coach ever as some have claimed.

Yet despite all of the above over the past four seasons we only have won a play off game with consistently good teams in a division with only one other relevant team.

It just isn't acceptable and it hasn't solely been all because of the coaching.

A franchise QB would have elevated the team to more success given the strength on the overall roster over the past four years.

Yet that's what the Dak lovers are hanging their hat on, blaming everything on the coaching or the kicker. So given that we now have new coaches and kickers there will be no excuses any longer for Prescott although i'm sure that they blame something like the weather...

The drafting has generally been good/very good, we haven't spunked our cap on overrated free agents or wasted draft picks to claim a Mo Claiborne to knee cap the roster like in previous years thus creating inconsistent and at times, poor teams.

That's why it wouldn't be ridiculous to trade Prescott for draft picks. People live in cloud cuckoo land if they do not think that we could bring in a QB to do what he does AND save $30 million a season.

I do not understand why people compare Prescott and Romo for next season - Romo is done, he isn't coming back.

There are two separate questions that people get confused when talking or bringing Romo into the discussion.

1. Should Romo have come back into the team when healthy in 2016? - this has been addressed in another thread.
2. How should we proceed at the QB positions going forward? - this has nothing to do with Romo. I have posted my thoughts regarding this on countless occasions.

The reality is that Prescott will sign a 4-5 year contract for $35+ million a season. It will knee cap the team but the powers that be appear to have made up their minds and you just have to accept it.

As previously stated, we have waited 25 years so what's another 5-10 years!?

As someone else posted, Prescott can't go on forever and given where his skill set lies, i.e. not as a pocket passer, he will regress quicker than a proper QB so I think another 5 years max and he will be done in the NFL.

 

[Ranched]

Did he play by himself? Weird.

Yes he did. And coached the team too. Ironically, both him & Romo have done so. That said, why did Jerry fire Garrett then?! Stupid owner, how dare he.

you mean winning like 8-8 and 6-1 against winning teams ?

Funny how the haters only bring up games that suit their argument. Go cheer for Wentzie.

 

[Whirlwin]

Sometimes you need to pull the plug and give it a go. Herschel Walker anyone...

Whatever way people dress it up, Prescott has played on a good and at times, very good team over the past four years.

Throughout that period he has had...
exceptional/very good offensive line;
excellent/very good running game;
more than enough weapons to get it done except a few games in between Dez and Amari;
very good/good/average defense throughout;
special teams has been average/below average/poor throughout;
coaching has been indifferent, in game adjustments and game management generally below average/poor at times. But Coach Garrett was Coach of the Year in 2016 and we finished 13-3 with a rookie QB and limited play book so he isn't the worst coach ever as some have claimed.

Yet despite all of the above over the past four seasons we only have won a play off game with consistently good teams in a division with only one other relevant team.

It just isn't acceptable and it hasn't solely been all because of the coaching.

A franchise QB would have elevated the team to more success given the strength on the overall roster over the past four years.

Yet that's what the Dak lovers are hanging their hat on, blaming everything on the coaching or the kicker. So given that we now have new coaches and kickers there will be no excuses any longer for Prescott although i'm sure that they blame something like the weather...

The drafting has generally been good/very good, we haven't spunked our cap on overrated free agents or wasted draft picks to claim a Mo Claiborne to knee cap the roster like in previous years thus creating inconsistent and at times, poor teams.

That's why it wouldn't be ridiculous to trade Prescott for draft picks. People live in cloud cuckoo land if they do not think that we could bring in a QB to do what he does AND save $30 million a season.

I do not understand why people compare Prescott and Romo for next season - Romo is done, he isn't coming back.

There are two separate questions that people get confused when talking or bringing Romo into the discussion.

1. Should Romo have come back into the team when healthy in 2016? - this has been addressed in another thread.
2. How should we proceed at the QB positions going forward? - this has nothing to do with Romo. I have posted my thoughts regarding this on countless occasions.

The reality is that Prescott will sign a 4-5 year contract for $35+ million a season. It will knee cap the team but the powers that be appear to have made up their minds and you just have to accept it.

As previously stated, we have waited 25 years so what's another 5-10 years!?

As someone else posted, Prescott can't go on forever and given where his skill set lies, i.e. not as a pocket passer, he will regress quicker than a proper QB so I think another 5 years max and he will be done in the NFL.

Herschel Walker. Not even close to the same situation

 

[Whirlwin]

Sometimes you need to pull the plug and give it a go. Herschel Walker anyone...

Whatever way people dress it up, Prescott has played on a good and at times, very good team over the past four years.

Throughout that period he has had...
exceptional/very good offensive line;
excellent/very good running game;
more than enough weapons to get it done except a few games in between Dez and Amari;
very good/good/average defense throughout;
special teams has been average/below average/poor throughout;
coaching has been indifferent, in game adjustments and game management generally below average/poor at times. But Coach Garrett was Coach of the Year in 2016 and we finished 13-3 with a rookie QB and limited play book so he isn't the worst coach ever as some have claimed.

Yet despite all of the above over the past four seasons we only have won a play off game with consistently good teams in a division with only one other relevant team.

It just isn't acceptable and it hasn't solely been all because of the coaching.

A franchise QB would have elevated the team to more success given the strength on the overall roster over the past four years.

Yet that's what the Dak lovers are hanging their hat on, blaming everything on the coaching or the kicker. So given that we now have new coaches and kickers there will be no excuses any longer for Prescott although i'm sure that they blame something like the weather...

The drafting has generally been good/very good, we haven't spunked our cap on overrated free agents or wasted draft picks to claim a Mo Claiborne to knee cap the roster like in previous years thus creating inconsistent and at times, poor teams.

That's why it wouldn't be ridiculous to trade Prescott for draft picks. People live in cloud cuckoo land if they do not think that we could bring in a QB to do what he does AND save $30 million a season.

I do not understand why people compare Prescott and Romo for next season - Romo is done, he isn't coming back.

There are two separate questions that people get confused when talking or bringing Romo into the discussion.

1. Should Romo have come back into the team when healthy in 2016? - this has been addressed in another thread.
2. How should we proceed at the QB positions going forward? - this has nothing to do with Romo. I have posted my thoughts regarding this on countless occasions.

The reality is that Prescott will sign a 4-5 year contract for $35+ million a season. It will knee cap the team but the powers that be appear to have made up their minds and you just have to accept it.

As previously stated, we have waited 25 years so what's another 5-10 years!?

As someone else posted, Prescott can't go on forever and given where his skill set lies, i.e. not as a pocket passer, he will regress quicker than a proper QB so I think another 5 years max and he will be done in the NFL.

We have the best quarterback from his draft class. Get over it

 

[lqmac1]

Wondering if someone will give us a 1st rounder for Dak . Given the protracted negociation with our overrated entitled QB . This would give us a fresh start and we may land a good QB like a Justin Herbert or deal for another veteran , Thoughts ?

I feel like people who post things like this will be the first to complain once we become one of the teams who is constantly on a quarterback carousel.

People never look at the big picture during negotiations, everybody just expects the players to take whatever contract is proposed. Have you thought about the fact that everybody, including the Cowboys, didn’t view him as a starting caliber quarterback? Do you recall the Cowboys trying to trade up and draft Lynch? Do you recall the report that came out that said we preferred Lynch, but settled for the Dak?

So yeah, if I was Dak and overcame all of that, performed better than the top two picks who got a nice payday, I’d take your *** to the cleaners, as well.

as a fan base we seem to accept the “it’s part of the business“ excuse when NFL teams and owners cut a player, don’t hold their end of the contract and things of that nature, but it becomes a major problem for everybody when a player does the same. It’s part of the business and he’s doing what’s best for him and his family and their future just as the Cowboys are trying to do what’s best for their wallets.

 

[Qcard]

Sometimes you need to pull the plug and give it a go. Herschel Walker anyone...

Well sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't....Ricky Williams anyone.

Oh I guess you subconsciously were channeling Jimmy Johnson...if so then what happened in Miami. He had a Franchise QB?

This stuff sounds easy...but this is not the 90s

Whatever way people dress it up, Prescott has played on a good and at times, very good team over the past four years.

Throughout that period he has had...
exceptional/very good offensive line;
excellent/very good running game;
more than enough weapons to get it done except a few games in between Dez and Amari;
very good/good/average defense throughout;
special teams has been average/below average/poor throughout;

This is the stuff that makes me laugh. My fellow Cowboy fans always overate our players and then downgrade players they don't like because they could not succeed with overrated players.

OLINE HAS BEEN OVERRATED SINCE 2017.

We had names but only Zach Martin has been First Team All Pro.
Tyron and Frederick hasn't been All Pro since 2016.
They've been Pro Bowlers but so has Dak 3 out of 4 seasons....so what's your point again...

I agree Zeke is a Great player but see Oline above....

What does "more than enough Weapons to get it done" mean?
Dez hadn't been a weapon in almost a season. Defenses stopped respecting his abilities... Witten was no longer a threat, WR by committee was debacle and Amari takes road games off....yep more than enough I guess

Ps Personally I blame Coaching for the debacle

coaching has been indifferent, in game adjustments and game management generally below average/poor at times. But Coach Garrett was Coach of the Year in 2016 and we finished 13-3 with a rookie QB and limited play book so he isn't the worst coach ever as some have claimed.

So let's turn the question around...If Garrett had a such great talent team,a Franchise QB in Romo ( in your opinion Dak isn't) then why couldn't he win with all his exceptional Coaching awards...did the teams suck oops not according to you

You can't have it both ways @Swagger

Yet despite all of the above over the past four seasons we only have won a play off game with consistently good teams in a division with only one other relevant team.

the context of the horrible division and Dallas Cowboys being a very good team is a myth created in your mind to justify your opinion of Dak. I respect the division enough to know others have found the formula to Championships in the past decade.

Cowboy fans are pompous... sometimes...give respect to Eagles and Giants. They are more successful franchise in past 10 years. I guess Cowboy fans like to celebrate division titles and others are irrelevant...smh

It just isn't acceptable and it hasn't solely been all because of the coaching.

so it's everyone's fault or moreso more Dak's fault because he couldn't win more playoff games with a very good team and coach that replicated the exact same thing once in the past 6 seasons..... interesting logic

A franchise QB would have elevated the team to more success given the strength on the overall roster over the past four years.

"Good players can't overcome bad Coaching"
Bill Belichick

@Swagger what happened..

Hint Garrett got fired!

Yet that's what the Dak lovers are hanging their hat on, blaming everything on the coaching or the kicker. So given that we now have new coaches and kickers there will be no excuses any longer for Prescott although i'm sure that they blame something like the weather...

There you go again creating false narratives!! For future use.
I think most Dak supporters aka "realistic Cowboy fans" know like Romo with Parcells in 2006, this is the best and probably only chance Dak will get a shot a deep playoff run....Garrett see Bills quote....Garrett can not win a Superbowl with any talent as HC.

drafting has generally been good/very good, we haven't spunked our cap on overrated free agents or wasted draft picks to claim a Mo Claiborne to knee cap the roster like in previous years thus creating inconsistent and at times, poor teams.

You mean GMs have to do their jobs too.

Cap hell is a cliche given by lazy GMs and cheap owners to emboldened fans displeasures...clearly you've drank the Kool aid...Rams are in so much cap hell they cut Gurley and are still active in FA

Keep drinking that billionaire kool-aid

That's why it wouldn't be ridiculous to trade Prescott for draft picks. People live in cloud cuckoo land if they do not think that we could bring in a QB to do what he does AND save $30 million a season.

"Cloud cuckoo land" I have finally found a name for the Dak Hater's Alternate Universe

Rub on that Crystal ball and tell us exactly who can come in and replicate what Dak has done....please give me 2 QBs Names not myths

The reality is that Prescott will sign a 4-5 year contract for $35+ million a season. It will knee cap the team but the powers that be appear to have made up their minds and you just have to accept it.

You have no clue what Dak's contract will do to the cap. You are just speculating or assuming.
Only facts we know today is that Dak's salary has risen ever since he bet on himself....

As previously stated, we have waited 25 years so what's another 5-10 years!?

As someone else posted, Prescott can't go on forever and given where his skill set lies, i.e. not as a pocket passer, he will regress quicker than a proper QB so I think another 5 years max and he will be done in the NFL.

Another False narrative.... Dak's skill in the pocket got markedly better...it is fact one of the main factors why he's consider by those in the REAL football land as a Franchise Tagged QB.
I just hope your false narratives and myths don't poison your feelings towards Cowboy Wins if somehow Dak REMAINS a winning QB over the next 5-10 years...what's miserable existence I would assume

 

[basel90]

People don’t wanna pay Prescott they don’t think he’s worth it. But they’re willing to give him away plus draft picks for somebody that’s unknown. That’s just as ridiculous in my opinion. I know we have an a quarterback and I believe the kid is a winner. But it takes a team to win not just a quarterback not just a running back. Again people just see what they want to see

Dak is not worth the money he is asking and he was not a difference maker in any game . He is not the sort of QB that can win against playoff caliber teams . He was 1-6 against them . So don’t hold too much hope for him . I hope Jerry doesn’t cave and pay him what he is asking .

 

[Rockport]

Dak is not worth the money he is asking and he was not a difference maker in any game . He is not the sort of QB that can win against playoff caliber teams . He was 1-6 against them . So don’t hold too much hope for him . I hope Jerry doesn’t cave and pay him what he is asking .

You Dak haters are so entertaining. Keep it up.

 

[basel90]

Well sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't....Ricky Williams anyone.

Oh I guess you subconsciously were channeling Jimmy Johnson...if so then what happened in Miami. He had a Franchise QB?

This stuff sounds easy...but this is not the 90s

This is the stuff that makes me laugh. My fellow Cowboy fans always overate our players and then downgrade players they don't like because they could not succeed with overrated players.

OLINE HAS BEEN OVERRATED SINCE 2017.

We had names but only Zach Martin has been First Team All Pro.
Tyron and Frederick hasn't been All Pro since 2016.
They've been Pro Bowlers but so has Dak 3 out of 4 seasons....so what's your point again...

I agree Zeke is a Great player but see Oline above....

What does "more than enough Weapons to get it done" mean?
Dez hadn't been a weapon in almost a season. Defenses stopped respecting his abilities... Witten was no longer a threat, WR by committee was debacle and Amari takes road games off....yep more than enough I guess

Ps Personally I blame Coaching for the debacle



So let's turn the question around...If Garrett had a such great talent team,a Franchise QB in Romo ( in your opinion Dak isn't) then why couldn't he win with all his exceptional Coaching awards...did the teams suck oops not according to you

You can't have it both ways @Swagger
the context of the horrible division and Dallas Cowboys being a very good team is a myth created in your mind to justify your opinion of Dak. I respect the division enough to know others have found the formula to Championships in the past decade.

Cowboy fans are pompous... sometimes...give respect to Eagles and Giants. They are more successful franchise in past 10 years. I guess Cowboy fans like to celebrate division titles and others are irrelevant...smh
so it's everyone's fault or moreso more Dak's fault because he couldn't win more playoff games with a very good team and coach that replicated the exact same thing once in the past 6 seasons..... interesting logic

"Good players can't overcome bad Coaching"
Bill Belichick

@Swagger what happened..

Hint Garrett got fired!



There you go again creating false narratives!! For future use.
I think most Dak supporters aka "realistic Cowboy fans" know like Romo with Parcells in 2006, this is the best and probably only chance Dak will get a shot a deep playoff run....Garrett see Bills quote....Garrett can not win a Superbowl with any talent as HC.


You mean GMs have to do their jobs too.

Cap hell is a cliche given by lazy GMs and cheap owners to emboldened fans displeasures...clearly you've drank the Kool aid...Rams are in so much cap hell they cut Gurley and are still active in FA

Keep drinking that billionaire kool-aid
If

"Cloud cuckoo land" I have finally found a name for the Dak Hater's Alternate Universe

Rub on that Crystal ball and tell us exactly who can come in and replicate what Dak has done....please give me 2 QBs Names not myths

You have no clue what Dak's contract will do to the cap. You are just speculating or assuming.
Only facts we know today is that Dak's salary has risen ever since he bet on himself....

Another False narrative.... Dak's skill in the pocket got markedly better...it is fact one of the main factors why he's consider by those in the REAL football land as a Franchise Tagged QB.
I just hope your false narratives and myths don't poison your feelings towards Cowboy Wins if somehow Dak REMAINS a winning QB over the next 5-10 years...what's miserable existence I would assume

if we don’t fix the QB deficiency situation, and spend on improving the defense , the team will continue to meander around 8-8 . Dak is not worth the money he is asking .

 

[Rockport]

basel there Dak fans first then Cowboy fans and if that at this point.


All they care about is DAK DAK DAK DAK DAK DAK (pretty sure some here get paid for this) and the bigger the contract the better.
They have no other considerations about TEAM TEAM TEAM TEAM.
Ignore them or simply laugh cause at the end of the day that's all there pretty good for ......

That’s hilarious! Everytime you post it’s about Dak!

 

[basel90]

I feel like people who post things like this will be the first to complain once we become one of the teams who is constantly on a quarterback carousel.

People never look at the big picture during negotiations, everybody just expects the players to take whatever contract is proposed. Have you thought about the fact that everybody, including the Cowboys, didn’t view him as a starting caliber quarterback? Do you recall the Cowboys trying to trade up and draft Lynch? Do you recall the report that came out that said we preferred Lynch, but settled for the Dak?

So yeah, if I was Dak and overcame all of that, performed better than the top two picks who got a nice payday, I’d take your *** to the cleaners, as well.

as a fan base we seem to accept the “it’s part of the business“ excuse when NFL teams and owners cut a player, don’t hold their end of the contract and things of that nature, but it becomes a major problem for everybody when a player does the same. It’s part of the business and he’s doing what’s best for him and his family and their future just as the Cowboys are trying to do what’s best for their wallets.

The point is he has boxed the team into a situation of grossly over paying a mediocre QB while the team has major needs on defense . If the team caves in , the cowboys will keep meandering . A trade for a 1st rounder or 2 may be a long shot but i tends to think would be a much better option long term .

 

[blueblood70]

Dak is not worth the money he is asking and he was not a difference maker in any game . He is not the sort of QB that can win against playoff caliber teams . He was 1-6 against them . So don’t hold too much hope for him . I hope Jerry doesn’t cave and pay him what he is asking .

its true Hes good enough to win with but cant win on his own, too me the 33/105 was way beyond fair.. dudes living in dream world with an ego the size of TX to demand that .. I hope Jerry sticks to his guns and lets him ride on the FT unless he signs for the last deal, id make that final.. If Dak does truly progress with MM and this new staff and he surpasses all of our criticisms, than back up the truck..

 

[basel90]

its true Hes good enough to win with but cant win on his own, too me the 33/105 was way beyond fair.. dudes living in dream world with an ego the size of TX to demand that .. I hope Jerry sticks to his guns and lets him ride on the FT unless he signs for the last deal, id make that final.. If Dak does truly progress with MM and this new staff and he surpasses all of our criticisms, than back up the truck..

Agree . Let’s hope Jerry doesn’t cave in and overpay .