Amari really likes to play in Dallas

[DenCWBY]

I agree 100%. Because if he struggles against good corners a real coach would scheme for him to get open. I'm know stats says he probably struggles against corners and in road games but the coach suffered in those games too as did the whole team.

Correct. People say "he didn't show up" because of a meager stat line in a game. What if the game plan was to use him as a decoy to open up the field? Or the QB was off on his throws that game? No stat for that. It's not all on the WR id he has meager stats.

 

[MaineBoy]

I've looked at Cooper's up-and-down numbers and I've found it hard to pinpoint the exact reasons for the huge swings. I don't think you can simply says "he struggles against good corners". I also don't think you can just chalk it up to "home or away". And I don't think it's simply a "grass vs turf" thing.

In this case, I'm hopeful that better offensive minds and coaching will figure out a way to get him to be more productive on a more consistent basis.

He had the same coaches and same scheme and same players around him on the road as he did at home. Seems doubtful that would be the variable. If it was, he would either be great or suck equally in either place one would think.

 

[Stash]

He had the same coaches and same scheme and same players around him on the road as he did at home. Seems doubtful that would be the variable. If it was, he would either be great or suck equally in either place one would think.

Or coaching game plans and play calls are decidedly different at home vs on the road?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Correct. People say "he didn't show up" because of a meager stat line in a game. What if the game plan was to use him as a decoy to open up the field? Or the QB was off on his throws that game? No stat for that. It's not all on the WR id he has meager stats.

Yeah people give Gilmore credit that Pats game....Cooper didn't look right but Dak wasn't either. And we know what Garrett was......

 

[817Gill]

I agree 100%. Because if he struggles against good corners a real coach would scheme for him to get open. I'm know stats says he probably struggles against corners and in road games but the coach suffered in those games too as did the whole team.

He’s never really had great offensive coaching. Jack Del Rio and Jason Garrett don’t exactly scream innovation

 

[ItzKelz]

MM will fix it

 

[ghst187]

Thanks for putting in this work. However, your numbers may widen even MORE when you put the 76 (Saints) and 217 you have for away in the home column - that was the Philly 3TD game.

yes you’re right, good catch (pun)!
Here’s update. Marked difference even more dramatic.

Home

58, 180, 76, 217, 20

106, 88, 226, 106, 147, 85, 19, 92

109.23 average


Away

75, 36, 32, 31

44, 48, 3, 80, 38, 0, 83, 24

41.16 average

 

[gjkoeppen]

Interesting stats that may tell a story....
His production at home is almost double what it is on the road.
Personally, I theorize that being the route technician he is, he gets his cuts better on the carpet which is where he gets his separation. Or.... he just hates playing outdoors on grass.

Here’s the data...
I don’t ascribe to the charge that he “ disappears in big games”.... as philly is always a huge game and he’s put up video game numbers against them on a few occasions. Maybe it’s a home v away thing?

A cursory look at his time in Oakland....he didn’t play many games indoors but tended to play well on carpet and esp against division rivals... maybe familiarity...which he played extraordinarily well for the most part against our divisional rivals also....
Thoughts?

Home

2018: 58, 180, 20, 106,

2019: 106, 88, 226, 106, 147, 85, 19, 92

=102.75 average


Away

2018: 75, 36, 76, 217, 32, 31, 65

2019: 44, 48, 3, 80, 38, 0, 83, 24

=56.8 average

Without labeling what those numbers signify they mean little.
.

 

[ghst187]

Without labeling what those numbers signify they mean little.
.

yards per game

 

[Captain43Crash]

It's interesting though. In 2018 Xavien Howard effectively shut him out in Miami and on Howards first INT Cooper gave up on the route(quite long but non the less). But last year in Dallas, Cooper broke Howards ankles repeatedly.

Was in frustration in Oakland for that one game? Possibly. Or is it some mental block he goes through during a game and maybe checks out?

These are not questions we should have about a receiver making 20 million a year!

To many of our big name players, including Dak's and Amari, did not show up against the better teams we played last year, that must change this year if we want to make the playoffs. I’m confident Dak will step up his game vs the better teams this year, not quite as confident Cooper will.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Interesting stats that may tell a story....
His production at home is almost double what it is on the road.
Personally, I theorize that being the route technician he is, he gets his cuts better on the carpet which is where he gets his separation. Or.... he just hates playing outdoors on grass.

Here’s the data...
I don’t ascribe to the charge that he “ disappears in big games”.... as philly is always a huge game and he’s put up video game numbers against them on a few occasions. Maybe it’s a home v away thing?

A cursory look at his time in Oakland....he didn’t play many games indoors but tended to play well on carpet and esp against division rivals... maybe familiarity...which he played extraordinarily well for the most part against our divisional rivals also....
Thoughts?

Home

2018: 58, 180, 20, 106,

2019: 106, 88, 226, 106, 147, 85, 19, 92

=102.75 average


Away

2018: 75, 36, 76, 217, 32, 31, 65

2019: 44, 48, 3, 80, 38, 0, 83, 24

=56.8 average

Home 2018: 58, 180, 20, 106, = 91
Away 2018: 75, 36, 76, 217, 32, 31, 65 = 76

Home 2019: 106, 88, 226, 106, 147, 85, 19, 92 = 109
Away 2019: 44, 48, 3, 80, 38, 0, 83, 24 = 40

Could just chalk it up to natural variation in 2018, but 2019 looks bad.

The Bad:
Should throw the Jets game of 3 snaps, 3 yards.
Shut out against NE. 2 targets, no catches, on 51 snaps. I wonder what The Hoodie was having them do to Cooper. I think his philosophy is "I'm taking away your best guy. You're going to do something else." And we did. And we lost. 1 rush for Dak that day in an ultra low scoring cold and wet day. Cause it's not like having a running QB could be turned to our advantage in conditions like that.
Another potentially fake game was the Philly game where Dak couldn't hit anything. That was 24 yards. 12 targets, though.

NE and Philly. Two bad games to look at and see what's up.

But we should expect a guy who wins on route running to be best indoors on turf than outdoors on grass in bad weather.

Full 2019 splits here
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CoopAm00/splits/2019/

The one low *home* game of 19 was against the Rams. 2 targets. A flukey game, really. Pollard and Zeke combined for over 300 yards. Only 17 passes not to RBs. 45 rushing attempts between Pollard, Zeke, Dak, and Austin. Cooper, Gallup, and Cobb *combined* for 22 yards on 7 targets. What a weird game.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Except the Commanders paid more lol.

This! Could not be $$$ when the skins were going to pay him $22M a year compared to our $20M. Kinda surprised they did not up the ante to $24M.

 

[Typhus]

I've looked at Cooper's up-and-down numbers and I've found it hard to pinpoint the exact reasons for the huge swings. I don't think you can simply says "he struggles against good corners". I also don't think you can just chalk it up to "home or away". And I don't think it's simply a "grass vs turf" thing.

In this case, I'm hopeful that better offensive minds and coaching will figure out a way to get him to be more productive on a more consistent basis.

In Coops defense, he was playing with a foot injury for a good duration last season. I think Cooper has a little old school in him, plays through/with injuries, but his numbers do reflect a swing/dip, but Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that when healthy, he is an elite top 4-5 WR in this league.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The way Cooper has gotten trashed this offseason is a big reason why some guys are reluctant to play hurt.

He was hurt for most of the year but played through it like a warrior. Maybe part of that was because he was seeking the huge contract that he ended up getting, but he should still be commended for laying it all on the line physically.

Yeah I do not understand it. Dak is getting the same treatment. And I knock Wentz for not playing hurt but hell its in his best interest not too. At least he’s not judged by his games where he’s playing hurt.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This! Could not be $$$ when the skins were going to pay him $22M a year compared to our $20M. Kinda surprised they did not up the ante to $24M.

Me too. Might as well. I you are willing to pay him 22 what’s another 2 million a year?

 

[big dog cowboy]

In Coops defense, he was playing with a foot injury for a good duration last season. I think Cooper has a little old school in him, plays through/with injuries, but his numbers do reflect a swing/dip, but Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that when healthy, he is an elite top 4-5 WR in this league.

It was more than just a foot injury. He didn't complain and always gave it a try each week.

 

[BourbonBalz]

He had the same coaches and same scheme and same players around him on the road as he did at home. Seems doubtful that would be the variable. If it was, he would either be great or suck equally in either place one would think.

Same coaches, but Garrett, being the conservative coward he is, most likely went even more conservative on the road. This would limit Cooper’s opportunities to make plays, especially big plays.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Players should just be honest and stop all this BS about i care for this team, or that team it is about who pays you more period

Commanders offered Coop $23 a season.

$3 million a year more than Dallas.

Coop resigned with Dallas...…………..Not every player in the league is a mercenary that plays for the highest bidder.

 

[The Fonz]

Commanders offered Coop $23 a season.

$3 million a year more than Dallas.

Coop resigned with Dallas...…………..Not every player in the league is a mercenary that plays for the highest bidder.

I admire that maybe he like the city of Dallas .....Now if the difference was 10 millions where would you think he will sign?

 

[Beast_from_East]

I admire that maybe he like the city of Dallas .....Now if the difference was 10 millions where would you think he will sign?

$10 million a year more?

I think he would have walked...………..that's not giving a hometown discount, that is being stupid