I’m well aware of what you said and I agree with a lot of it but it doesn’t change the fact that Zeke has benefited from one of the best O lines in the league 2 out of his 4 years and a top 10 O line his other 2 years.No, you said CM was doing this with a worse OL, I said that is why the Panthers lean on him because he is all they have on O. Whereas with our weapons Zeke does not have to have all the touches because we have amore balance O. Now about the OL, Zeke like ES can't help it that there OL is better than CM and Barry back in the day but ES and Zeke gets penalized for that. Will say it's like a volume shooter in basketball, you pump 30 shots a night you should lead the league in scoring. So the more carries and catches out of the backfield you will have more all purpose yards than the other guy when his team does not cater to that. The boys do not dink and donk alot, something they may do more of but it has not been what they have done. Listen CM is a beast and I was at 3 games this past season but let's see what happens this coming season going forward.
Not to mention that Zeke is also the best blocking/blitz pick-up back in the league. Imo, one of the best I've ever seen. People seem to not take that into consideration.He was last year and that's all that matters as far as contracts go.
In 2018, he rushed for 1,098 yards on 219 carries and 7 TDs and had 107 catches for 867 yards and 5 TDs. Elliott had 304 carries for 1,434 yards and 6 TDs and 77 catches for 567 yards and 3 TDs. That's pretty much a wash.
And no one talks about him being the best blitz pick-up back in the league. He blocks people with evil intent, not something you would expect from a "diva".There is nothing that points to McCaffery being better other than simple opinion. One year doesn’t make you better IMO.
You should live near DC like I do, you would most definitely add one more team to your list.Every fan base has "a lot of people with good points."
It's about percentage. The Cowboys and Lakers have by far the stupidest fan bases. Yankees probably not too far behind.
Take that, Zeke.
I’m well aware of what you said and I agree with a lot of it but it doesn’t change the fact that Zeke has benefited from one of the best O lines in the league 2 out of his 4 years and a top 10 O line his other 2 years.
Is it his fault? Of course not but when debating who’s a better RB (no matter who you’re comparing) it’s absurd not to take the O line into account.
As I said, a lot of people reference his rushing titles as part of the reason he’s the best. He wouldn’t have those titles behind most O lines in this league.
It’s amazing guys like Barkley and McCaffrey even accomplished what they did considering the line in front of them.
I think Elliott as a recieving back is pretty underrated. Not as a type to motion out into the slot like McCaffrey but out of the backfield he is very reliable and effective.
There are exceptions to every rule. There are 32 teams and maybe 3 or 4 will pay their RB.
Unlike QB where average Joe's are making big money.
People will say they don’t care about blocking though lol.And no one talks about him being the best blitz pick-up back in the league. He blocks people with evil intent, not something you would expect from a "diva".
People will say they don’t care about blocking though lol.
So who out of Derrick Henry, Saqoun,, Kamara, Chubb, Fournette and Cook won’t get paid? If Bell, Zeke and CMC are already paid.....you must not think any of those guys above will get paid?There are exceptions to every rule. There are 32 teams and maybe 3 or 4 will pay their RB.
Unlike QB where average Joe's are making big money.
That’s a big deal regardless of what people think.This, was the same with the Barry and ES debate. Even though Smith could do it all and Barry was out on 3rd downs and never seen him block, it was the dspn highlights they remember.
So who out of Derrick Henry, Saqoun,, Kamara, Chubb, Fournette and Cook won’t get paid? If Bell, Zeke and CMC are already paid.....you must not think any of those guys above will get paid?
I listed Fournette because he was a top 10 pick and usually as long as they are productive they get nice deals. Plus he’s all Jaguars have right now. He has a big year I can see him getting one. Chubb needs another year like last year and he will get one.I don't think Fournette belongs on that list. I mean, he'll get a 2nd contract, but I doubt it's big bucks.
I think some just don't realize that teams still value special running backs.
Henry is special, as he is a 15 year olds creation at RB in Madden, but in real life. Dude will get paid.
Kamara is a dual threat RB that works perfectly in Paytons offense. He too will get paid.
Barkley is like CMC, but a more powerful runner. He too will get paid.
Cook is also special.
I think Chubb will soon to be on the "special" list, once the Browns realize he is a bellcow and use him full time.
Now, not sure on if these guys will be the new #1 in AAV, but they will easily get double digit annual paydays.
Hear me out, this is one of several things I don’t understand and why I criticize certain posters for constantly making excuses for Zeke. When Zeke had bad games a few main excuses would always come up, one being the O line, the other being we didn’t give him the ball enough and another being that he was so good teams would take him out of the game.This, people don't understand that all those dink and don't throws to the RB is something that red and the OC didn't do alot of. But when they do it works pretty good. Now look at the Pats and Panthers do they it the whole game.
16 mil is a bargain for a RB that is so productive. What a steal!
I don’t have that answer. Of course all of these guys want to get paid.So who out of Derrick Henry, Saqoun,, Kamara, Chubb, Fournette and Cook won’t get paid? If Bell, Zeke and CMC are already paid.....you must not think any of those guys above will get paid?
This, people don't understand that all those dink and don't throws to the RB is something that red and the OC didn't do alot of. But when they do it works pretty good. Now look at the Pats and Panthers do they it the whole game.
McCaffrey is a completely different animal than the others he mentioned and I agree with you on Saquon. So that leaves Saquon, Bell and Zeke.I don’t have that answer. Of course all of these guys want to get paid.
Saquon will unless he gets injured because the Giants were dumb enough to draft him that high.
Fournette a hard no.
Henry hasn’t been paid yet.
Cook has had one good year let’s see if he stays healthy and even then the Vikes will find a replacement.
Chubb is really good.