Florio: Dak to skip Cowboys' virtual offseason

[TheMarathonContinues]

5 years is one more year than 4 years.

Cowboys like handing out 5+ year term deals to their core players.

• Tyron Smith: eight years
• Travis Frederick: six years
• Dez Bryant: five years
• Zack Martin: six years
• Jaylon Smith: five years
• La’el Collins: five years
• Ezekiel Elliott: six years

It allows them to manipulate the cap numbers and restructure when need be.

Understood but you have plenty of players to manipulate the cap with. I don’t know I’m just arguing to argue I guess. I just don’t agree a year is a legit reason to hold a deal up about.

Looks so bad on him to just wilt and take a low ball deal. People don’t understand the angle of other players in the league and in the lockeroom.

Nope. Either they don’t get it or care.

 

[817Gill]

I would take Dak all day on the deal he had or if he was actually paid like the 10th best QB..


You give him the money he wants with all the holes this team currently has and I doubt we see a Lombardi in the next 4 years..

If you draft Tua.. Next year won’t be so great if he has to sit but then we have a decade of potential top tier QB play. This is an opportunity but Dallas will be conservative and get conservative results.

So in 2 seasons when Dak is the 7-8th highest paid QB you’ll be fine? You know the first 2 years of the contract are manageable hits as well so even when he’s a top 3 paid guy it won’t hinder our ability to make moves.

The reality is your insistence on winning with QB’s on rookie deals is not only risky, but will prove to have simply been a product of the last CBA. The new CBA is already signed, we know the caps will explode as gambling revenue is counted and TV contracts are renewed. Signing Dak at 35-36 will literally be a bargain in 2 seasons.

I don’t see why you refuse to see that all your concerns about paying Dak aren’t even relevant anymore. He’s not hamstringing the cap and picking a rookie QB is ridiculously risky. You said he’s around the 10th best QB, you don’t think with a real coaching staff he keeps improving to 7-8 range? At that point not only will he be paid what he’s worth, but trying to find a QB better than 7/8 has a ridiculously slim chance at working.

 

[Runwildboys]

Jerry needs to give Dak the short term contract he wants.

I agree. That way he'll know just how much he is or isn't worth.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Jerry created this recent mess when he caved to Zeke and signed him 1 year too early.

I agree, so there's no sense adding another blunder, which is what this would be doing. So maybe separating the two joined at the hip lovers might help.

 

[John813]

Understood but you have plenty of players to manipulate the cap with. I don’t know I’m just arguing to argue I guess. I just don’t agree a year is a legit reason to hold a deal up about.

Nope. Either they don’t get it or care.

I think they are stuck on the term as they are caving on AAV/SB. IIRC I read a tweet from a decent source that they want at least one of three to go their way.

They got to July 15th to hammer this out, right? Seeing how they operate, they probably are in no rush now to hand him a big signing bonus with the CV-19 possibly threatening the season(and that's for the other forum lol).

Not directed to you, but I don't get why people get so stressed over these negotiations. The Joneses operate like a turtle. Super slow, unless the player caves. Patience everyone, the season doesn't start anytime soon. Camp is 3+ months away.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I agree, so there's no sense adding another blunder, which is what this would be doing. So maybe separating the two joined at the hip lovers might help.

I would have much better gotten rid of the RB than the QB. It's much easier to replace a RB than a franchise QB. I said it last year, Zeke and Dak very likely planned this and agreed to support each other as they both demand top overall position pay.

 

[Sevenup3000]

Just checked . Yep Wentz and Goff got 4 year extensions. The only one being unreasonable here is Jerry Jones. Give Dak his 4 year contract like everyone else.

I have said it a thousand times. What Dak is seeking is to only be treated as his peers. Not better. Not worse. EQUAL.

If I spent 4 years at a law firm making 1/30 of my peers and my production rivals theirs, ** for thinking the next 4 years I am taking one penny less or signing a lesser contract than them. **. Either sign me to a ******* market contract or release me. Period. End of Discussion.

 

[BigWillie]

Perfectly understand why a player would skip any type of offseason contact from camps that may result in injury and lost earnings. But skipping a Zoom conference call?

 

[VACowboy]

Is 4 years added of new money not standard? If it is Dak has every right to say no to a 5 year deal.

I'm not aware that there is a standard.

 

[JoeKing]

In the end, this is a business and Dak is making business decisions. No deal means no Dak. Pay the man!

How many STARTING QBs have you seen holdout like this in the NFL? How many starting QBs have you seen tagged? If Jerry offered 50 million per season and Dak still held out, would you still be telling Jerry to "Get it done?" Cousins was tagged.... and he signed it and went about his business because he was smart enough to know his payday was inevitable. Dak is the leader of this team????

I dont care about the fact he was a starting qb playing for relative peanuts because he was a 4th rd pick. The rules are the rules that the players have agreed to. Only more of a reason to draft a QB and put some pressure right back on Dak.

That says all I need to know about...YOU.

The right thing to do would have been for the Cowboys to give Dak a slight pay raise after his rookie season when he took the team to a 13-3 record and won the league offensive player of the year award. Then after taking the team to the playoffs again in his 3rd season, given him a new long term contract. Dak would have been more amicable then had they done that then rather than raking the Cowboys over the coals as he is doing right now. The FO brought this on themselves. All the while they praise Dak and insist he's their guy. They painted themselves in a corner and now they have to pay the man. He has all the leverage. He has every right to holdout and make this process as painful as possible for the FO. Bend the knee Jerry and kiss the ring of Dak. You made him king.

 

[eromeopolk]

FWIW. Didn't watch the video

Source: Dak to skip Cowboys' virtual offseason

A source tells Mike Florio Dak Prescott will skip the Cowboys' virtual offseason program as he still waits on a long-term deal with Dallas.

Undoubtedly he has working out in the off season:




During this pandemic everybody is going to grocery stores, restaurants, car washes, job interviews, paint stores, etc. and we are talking about a professional football player practice...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiNdUXhGeX4

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think they are stuck on the term as they are caving on AAV/SB. IIRC I read a tweet from a decent source that they want at least one of three to go their way.

They got to July 15th to hammer this out, right? Seeing how they operate, they probably are in no rush now to hand him a big signing bonus with the CV-19 possibly threatening the season(and that's for the other forum lol).

Not directed to you, but I don't get why people get so stressed over these negotiations. The Joneses operate like a turtle. Super slow, unless the player caves. Patience everyone, the season doesn't start anytime soon. Camp is 3+ months away.

OH I'm not worried. More annoyed by these news outlets using this Dak situation o funnel stories. But yeah I don't see what the rush is on either sides party.

 

[Kwyn]

So his tag does not obligate him to participate?? Correct?

Not until he signs his tender

I’m a Dak supporter but this is a bush league move

the argument from players over the years who are trying to leverage their lack of a contract by not reporting has always been that they don’t want to risk injury.

This is clearly just his agent saying “Dak doesn’t want to even learn the new offense from his laptop. It’s going to hurt the team if you don’t get him under contract!”

like I said, I’ve been a Dak supporter but this is purely a flex move and it’s annoying

Other than partying with instagram models what is he doing all day that he can’t, you know, work at his profession in a totally safe and comfortable environment?

He can work out with Dez but can’t read his playbook?

 

[johneric8]

I'm a bit saddened about some of your attitudes toward Dak. The guy needs a new contract and this is business. Zeke held out and made a big scene and when push came to shove Jerry got it done because a bunch of other teams would of paid him that. Sure he had more time on his contract, but outplayed it. This is all really how business goes in the NFL.

I can almost for certain guarantee you that Dak hates all of this and knows how it makes him look. Dak didn't all of the sudden become this money hungry selfish person, he is trying to get the best deal he can and frankly he could be handling this much worse. This is all going to get done, but there really isn't a big hurry at this point and all that is going on is posturing on both sides. I think it would do us good to accept that and quit allowing ourselves to become resentful of Dak. If you don't like him as a player, that is well fine and good, but he doesn't deserve to be discredited as much as he is based on these contract negotiations.

And "NO" this isn't Dak Prescott..

 

[Mr_437]

I see no issue with Dak skipping out of his online classes...looks like his party promotion venture is off to a decent start, so he's busy.

I'm fine with Cooper Rush leading the QB room.

 

[Bluestang]

In the current situation, someone explain to me why a player would skip the virtual meetings?

it’s one thing to skip the physical OTAs held around this time of the year because of the injury risk but what is the issue in the virtual setting?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

2019 8-8-0 -
2018 10-6-0
2017 9-7-0
2016 13-3-0

It's only getting worse for Dak since his rookie year and he's playing hardball.
Jerry give this young inept QB the BOOT, please!!

 

[thunderpimp91]

Understood but you have plenty of players to manipulate the cap with. I don’t know I’m just arguing to argue I guess. I just don’t agree a year is a legit reason to hold a deal up about.

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I agree with that completely. If the hold up on this was a year on the deal it's ridiculous that the two sides haven't been able to come up with a solution to this point. The Cowboys can figure out the cap issues in a variety of ways.

I really think there is something going on that we don't know about. Not sure if it is strictly a money thing, or if it is the Cowboys not being sold on Dak as "the guy", but until that contract gets signed i wouldn't close the door on any possibilities.

 

[Clarkson]

Risk it.. Give him the year off to get right and you have possibly the best QB in this class.

If you play it safe with Dak and give him all that money you’re locking yourself into a Kirk Cousins type of player..

Go draft a potential superstar that will be on a cheap deal. That’s what wins. Not following the stupidity of teams overpaying QBs.

man what an easy thing for an armchair GM to decide.
as soon as you're finished your cheetos, tell us your next move.

 

[pancakeman]

Hey, if the guy's not under contract, not only do I accept that he's not obligated to attend--I don't even invite him. If he winds up playing for some rival team this year, I don't want him having been in on any of the Cowboys' preparations.