Dak had best wake up and smell the roses

[Bullflop]

Let's face it, folks -- it's to the advantage of both sides for a contract agreement to be arrived at. If that doesn't happen, both sides will more than likely suffer the consequences. The longer it takes, the less prepared Dak and the team will be. Their futures are both equally at stake, here. They had better come to terms soon with a contract agreement that they both can live with. It's either both sides win or both sides lose. The 1st result is highly preferable. Winning is a no-brainer, any way you slice it.

 

[cristglo]

This is just a excuse to validate those that didn't like him before.

We are kidding ourselves here since Dak became quarterback of this team he's been a polarizing figure with fans. Just like Romo before him. You have those that dislike him, those that want something better and those that like him. If you liked him prior to his "greed" you should still like him. Nothing has been signed. People are forming opinions of him based on leaked information from the Cowboys.

Lets be honest here.

No disrespect but people can change their minds on if they like him or not when they start to see how things unfold with his contract. I think that Dak can lead this team to a SB but as a fan I want us to be a dynasty and we can make a run at several SB with Dak Some fans feel that Dak is being greedy but its a business I get it. I can see why Dak wants a shorter contract though because if he wins a SB it puts him in top 5 QB and then he can get his pay day. The Cowboys will have to pay him his worth. If Dak was to take us to back to back SB his value in two years will be higher then what Mahomes will be paid. Im on the fence of pay him the shorter contract let him prove himself then Dallas can decide in 4 years if he is the man or not.

 

[Swagger]

Does anyone actually have any real numbers that have been offered or rejected either way?

It seems like everyone has used the $35 million number. That's what Russell Wilson, the top paid QB in the league, is making. Is that actually what Dak wants and/or what we've offered? Any actual proof?

I know it seems like the money per year has kind of been settled and now it seems they're fighting over the number of years. But I'm curious if we know about what the average per year is.

Didn't someone from the Cowboys say that Prescott has now been offered more than Wentz in every element? The stumbling block is apparently length of contract although isn't it effectively the same as Wentz and Goff given they exercised their fifth year options?

To be honest I'm just bored of it all now and nobody comes out of it with any credit really. Just more embarrassment surrounding the franchise being the joke circus act in the league.

 

[NotForLong]

lol the first thread I came across in when I visited this forum in 2016 was one where the OP wanted Dak to get concussion so that Romo could get his job back...there were so many anti-Dak threads...for example this one is probably one of the most mild https://cowboyszone.com/threads/gotta-love-dak-but-seriously.361333/ and that was on NOVEMBER

Thank you I gave the OP a like. Not everybody was drinking the koolaid

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

$40 million is an elite contract and one that the Cowboys aren't inclined to pay for a QB that has yet to prove himself worthy of. Dak and agent haven't budged from that demand since their talks began. If they come considerably down from that amount, it's likely that the team would adjust their 5-year requirement in contract length. It's plain to see that compromise on both sides if the table will be needed to make a deal.

Jerry will cave. Dak will get $39 mil as a compromise and we will be 8-8 next season (2021) and then 9-8 if we are lucky in subsequent expanded season years.
Blimey it will be difficult waiting 4 more years for a better QB.

 

[Bullflop]

Jerry will cave. Dak will get $39 mil as a compromise and we will be 8-8 next season (2021) and then 9-7 if we are lucky.

I'm not so sure. The Cowboys FO could always choose to let him either sign the tag or take a chance on him holding out. If so, he'd be hurting himself in the process. His reputation and performance would suffer -- perhaps enough to adversely affect his future. I would only hope both sides come to a mutual agreement soon and prepare for the upcoming season. Otherwise, Dak and the team could both pay the price of their failings to compromise.

 

[DogFace]

If I’m ever in a position to make a big decision I will be sure to check here and see what people think I should do.

Thank you.

 

[Ranching]

Shut up and back to sleep! Yawwwn

 

[EMMITTnROY]

Didn't someone from the Cowboys say that Prescott has now been offered more than Wentz in every element? The stumbling block is apparently length of contract although isn't it effectively the same as Wentz and Goff given they exercised their fifth year options?

To be honest I'm just bored of it all now and nobody comes out of it with any credit really. Just more embarrassment surrounding the franchise being the joke circus act in the league.

To me, Wentz and Dak are basically the same quality QB, taken from the same draft. He should just get Wentz's contract and it should be easily agreed upon by both parties.

 

[Bullflop]

If I’m ever in a position to make a big decision I will be sure to check here and see what people think I should do.

Thank you.

If things go as they usually do, we'd likely only confuse you more . . .

 

[Bullflop]

To me, Wentz and Dak are basically the same quality QB, taken from the same draft. He should just get Wentz's contract and it should be easily agreed upon by both parties.

There's perhaps a fair degree of impartial conjecture to support that idea but Dak and his agent likely wouldn't consider it. Too bad.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If I’m ever in a position to make a big decision I will be sure to check here and see what people think I should do.

Thank you.

unlike

No, a better person is Chrissy Teigen. She is smart and stuff and knows everything about everything. I rely on her lifestyle for guidance.

 

[Qcard]

No, you add no discussion or point beyond Dak was receiving a lower rookie pay, when his current offer is top shelf...and again, the team is still building.

Pot calling Kettle black...... @CCBoy YOU DON'T have a discussion to begin with....you lay out a false narrative then expect forumites™ to add discussion or points....this is an exercise in stupidity.

False Context/Narrative 1 - Dak's Agent CAA

"Dak's agent is setting his teeth into top of NFL as well as Cowboys' setting pay days.

This was your opening statement....***!! What exactly are you saying that CAA is setting his teeth into top NFL??? Are you saying CAA haven't already been established and don't have numerous setting pay days on the Cowboys and 31 other teams...CAA are established..

So somehow CAA will lose the Cowboys lockeroom??? ***

How do you draw a discussion or points from that garbled nonsense...

False Narrative/Context 2 - Dak Prescott lose the Lockeroom

..but he may be losing a locker room and group of supporting fans in the same stroke."

We can all assume by "he" you meant
Dak or did you mean CAA (Dak's Agent)...either way it is nonsense... there have been no murmurs against Dak from teammates. This lose of the lockeroom because of contract negotiations extrapolation is dumb....Zeke was welcomed back...Tank balked surgery, got paid, then had Surgery and was welcomed back....

Dak losing the lockeroom is a figment of your imagination....or even worse your deepest desire idk

Try attempting some answers instead of substituting attitude and agenda...you saying Dak hasn't been offered a reasonable contract that would not be expanded upon by most other teams?

Sir, try offering some substantive conversation that isn't loaded with poison pill narratives and context. I love a great discussion...

My point was Dak needs to seize the full set of potentials...your point is to insult and add agenda.

BLAH BLAH... your point is to assume Dak's contract negotiations will lose the lockeroom and CAA are looking for a come up..

Now answer and don't run away from this...you stating that right now, in the middle of complete social chaos, the team doesn't need it's top leader?

I never run sir! And if you know anything about my posting history you and I are starting a wonderful relationship..

How do you know Dak is not already leading?

What kind of leadership do grown men with families need from QB1 in the middle of a pandemic?

Do you see how dumb this point looks...

Do you think these families are looking to Dak Prescott for leadership during "complete social chaos"...ok I will allow a prose in word play and description but the point still stands...what do you expect a starting QB to do for his teammates during "complete social chaos" as the top leader....

How old are you? This is not a movie!

Dak's job is to bury his brother, take care of his family, get the best Contract possible and win games period....all that other stuff is good but leaders also lead by example and Dak has been a Model!

Answer...the Team needs Dak to be a QB not Moses.....

Is that throwing crap as an excuse? I don't agree...

I pointed possible directions....and oh yea, they are real possibilities if not solved. I think they will be solved, but ignore the reality of everything that is involved and if not addressed while the rest of the team is growing, it then becomes a major hurdle to overcome. You don't?

This is when the whole team needs interaction.

You again stating that earning millions and having to work like all other rookies to reach a larger contract amount, justifies not being available as a team leader?

I pointed out real points that need to be fully developed right now...and some of the areas where growth is strongly showing. I have done this in several OP's posted, First, one has to focus upon possible directions. That include offensive line, receiver, and running back progress. Have you discussed here, just what some of that may be? I have. You above discussing what could be lost, if a team's leader doesn't participate in foundation building?

You then telling me that you just tell the new coach, and all the new players...don't worry, that Dak was a growing leader in the past? Sorry, get real again.
The team and coaches all need for Dak to be involved...right now. You can't grasp that concept?

Leave all your personally directed insult and agenda aside. There could have been a more complete discussion of the strengths, beyond agenda bending and substituting negative and quick fire excuses around.

Try talking some factual football here, and don't go looking for golden eggs that hide the real discussion involved.

As to stating that my agenda was negative, dry your nose up...it wasn't.

Ok you didn't have negative agenda but you buffet you agenda with false narratives or statements.

Do you want Dak to gather the team and sing come by here my Lord...

These are grown men they don't need a 26yr QB (top leader in football NOT Life) to bring them together in "complete social chaos" setting...get real @CCBoy yep....BOY is so appropo

 

[Cmac]

So if you want what the market allows.....and you look over at Cooper Rush, and now DiNucci......haven't been injured.....you look at the individual stats....you look at being underpaid in comparison to play, despite some crappy offensive schemes....in the NFL, you ask what's the problem? But on this board.....you definitely gonna be a Fall Guy Nominee. Now if you're old, slow, injury prone, cheap, but trying.....great leadership and still not winning anything. And if you're dealing with off-the-field issues, repeatedly, come on down. Help me out on that one.

 

[Longboysfan]

He can't "lose" endorsements unless he breaks contract and he hasn't.

Yes he can.
The endorsements have him in Cowboys uniform and Cowboy Stadium back drop. Which Jerry and company control.
So when the contract talks got tough the Cowboys pulled the plug.

 

[Qcard]

Yes he can.
The endorsements have him in Cowboys uniform and Cowboy Stadium back drop. Which Jerry and company control.
So when the contract talks got tough the Cowboys pulled the plug.

The endorsement companies will swap out teams like underwear if Dak left...

People sleep and eat in other States where they have football teams too....

 

[Diehardblues]

I mean you must have a issue with the whole team then because Zeke and Lawrence also held out. Dak isn't even holding out. He just hasn't signed his franchise tag.

I think there’s a sizable segment that did take issue with those contracts and situations as well. Especially Elliott’s holdout.

You continue to refer to the extreme positions but I think most fans believe Dak deserves to be paid.

Dak holding out up to this point for what is being touted as the highest paid QB in the league isn’t favorable to all fans. Even his most ardent supporters.

 

[CyberB0b]

Money has nothing to do w/ the change in attitude toward Dak. The apparent greed of Dak and his agent is the factor.

I'm not talking about what should be, I'm talking about what is. The perception of Dak has taken a huge hit.

I can't blame him for taking advantage of market conditions. The fact is that the Cowboys put themselves in this situation by:

A. Not bringing in a viable backup that can actually play in the league
B. Not signing him earlier

Dak, like all players, is one devastating injury away from being jobless, or worse. If guys like Kirk Cousins and Jared Goff deserve to get paid, so does Dak.

To me, Wentz and Dak are basically the same quality QB, taken from the same draft. He should just get Wentz's contract and it should be easily agreed upon by both parties.

Except the fact that Wentz is always hurt, has a lower completion percentage, and much lower yards per attempt. The Eagles won a Super Bowl with Wentz riding the pine, hurt.

Dak may not have the ceiling Wentz has, but Wentz hasn't produced as much as Dak has.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yes he can.
The endorsements have him in Cowboys uniform and Cowboy Stadium back drop. Which Jerry and company control.
So when the contract talks got tough the Cowboys pulled the plug.

They can easily work around that. Not all of his endorsements require him to wear his jersey lol.

he sucked bad in 2017

He did. He struggled like most 2nd year pros did though.

No disrespect but people can change their minds on if they like him or not when they start to see how things unfold with his contract. I think that Dak can lead this team to a SB but as a fan I want us to be a dynasty and we can make a run at several SB with Dak Some fans feel that Dak is being greedy but its a business I get it. I can see why Dak wants a shorter contract though because if he wins a SB it puts him in top 5 QB and then he can get his pay day. The Cowboys will have to pay him his worth. If Dak was to take us to back to back SB his value in two years will be higher then what Mahomes will be paid. Im on the fence of pay him the shorter contract let him prove himself then Dallas can decide in 4 years if he is the man or not.

People can do what they want. Wasn't suggesting there is a right way or wrong way to handle it. But I personally can't understand liking someone until they are in contract negotiations then deciding not to like them.

In regards to him wanting a big contract when he wins a Super Bowl....if he wins a Super Bowl in the next 4 years I don't think anyone would care about how much he's getting paid.

He just understands that the salary cap is going up every year and in 4 years it will probably be 30-40 million higher than what it is now. Its smart business.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think there’s a sizable segment that did take issue with those contracts and situations as well. Especially Elliott’s holdout.

You continue to refer to the extreme positions but I think most fans believe Dak deserves to be paid.

Dak holding out up to this point for what is being touted as the highest paid QB in the league isn’t favorable to all fans. Even his most ardent supporters.

Its also telling that fans have no idea what's being offered or what the contract actually is but the first reaction is to blame Dak and his side.