Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys are at an impasse over nothing

jterrell

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I fail to see how Dak is gaining leverage especially since the Cowboys now have a proven option backing him up. It seems like neither party is willing to budge. I see Dak likely playing out this year on the tag and then probably going somewhere else next year. I really hope Jerry doesn't cave like he did with Zeke.

Dak's leverage is many things.
1. He is the offense and you want him in all meetings and workouts. This is a newly tweaked offense.
2. Pat Mahomes is currently also pushing for a 4 year deal. One that will shatter the ceiling on salaries.
3. You just drafted a WR in round 1 that has never caught a pass from Dak, you want them working together ASAP.
4. You have 31.4m tied up in his franchise tag that could be cut in half EASILY and possibly free up 20M. --With 20m you could sign Everson Griffin AND Jadeveon Clowney if you so desired. They won't but could.
5. You have Super Bowl aspirations. Getting Dak signed now both enhances that possibility but also frees you from having to pay him coming off a Super Bowl.
6. If Dak plays out the season he is GTD 39M next year on a 2nd franchise tag thus all discussions get moved north by 5-6M per year if he just repeats the statistical season he had in 2019!!
 

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OK, the solution to this is too easy. Make it a 5-year contract, with the last year voidable by Dak if the Cowboys make the SB (don't even have to win it) during the 4-year period. Bang. Done. Have Dak's agent PM me for my address to send me my commission check. :D
Yeah, it should not be that hard if that is the only hangup. I am not sure it is.
 

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I'd be signing a long term deal right now considering we don't know the financial impact Covid will have on upcoming salary caps.
EXACTLY! There's no way I would risk getting that signing bonus into my bank account...the sooner the better. I had slowly moved all in on Dak, but I honestly think this is incredibly short-sighted of him. So short sighted it makes me question his decision making. And the signal it sends to fans...20% of them possibly completely out of work...is one of greed. I think it's bad for the players and for the NFL as a whole.
 

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Sorry i will clear this question up.

Are you implying this is becoming a racial issue? Because I see many black sports commentators starting to take this angle within the last week. Shannon & Steven A.

Trying to destroy Cowboy Nation Unity

Weak minds believe weak lies . .

STATEMENT:

Of course, because they are more talented
LOL. of course goofballs take queues form guys PAID to be Cowboys foils.
They are actors paid to play a role. The rest of you are just stupid.
 

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EXACTLY! There's no way I would risk getting that signing bonus into my bank account...the sooner the better. I had slowly moved all in on Dak, but I honestly think this is incredibly short-sighted of him. So short sighted it makes me question his decision making. And the signal it sends to fans...20% of them possibly completely out of work...is one of greed. I think it's bad for the players and for the NFL as a whole.
You guys do not understand basic economics if you truly believe this.

The NFL may have a 1 year dip for sure but even that is unlikely.
The biggest thing in the ENTIRE world right now is entertainment.
It is making MORE money.
An NFL game played today would be MORE watched than ANY Super Bowl.
 

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You guys do not understand basic economics if you truly believe this.

The NFL may have a 1 year dip for sure but even that is unlikely.
The biggest thing in the ENTIRE world right now is entertainment.
It is making MORE money.
An NFL game played today would be MORE watched than ANY Super Bowl.
Oh, we understand economics. You don't seem to understand what fear can do to the economy. Have you been under a rock?
 

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Oh, we understand economics. You don't seem to understand what fear can do to the economy. Have you been under a rock?
You think fear prevents people from watching TV??

Have you been outside?
There are a crap load of people out there.
Most people are more stupid and bored than scared.

The NFL makes it's money off broadcasting games.
Live in stadium crowds are nice but not required.
 

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I fail to see how Dak is gaining leverage especially since the Cowboys now have a proven option backing him up. It seems like neither party is willing to budge. I see Dak likely playing out this year on the tag and then probably going somewhere else next year. I really hope Jerry doesn't cave like he did with Zeke.
Agree with your points , but isn’t it better if Dak’s offer is rescinded if he is not going to participate in the training camp ?
what value is a QB who is not in training camp shape ( becoming injury prone ) , does not know the playbook , and is sulking or unhappy about his contract . Arn’t the cowboys better off rescinding his tag and save 31 mil on improving the team ?
 

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So contrary to popular belief, it’s not Dak’s outrageous demands or selfishness or greed that’s holding this up. It’s the length of the deal. Rather than asking for more Dak’s actually asking for less.

Seems like this has been known for almost a year now, but people still want to claim it's about money. :rolleyes:

I'm not really sure how much leverage Dak has in this respect. The deadline is sometime in July. If the Cowboys don't want a 4 year contract they sure as heck won't agree to tag + 3 year deal. A 4 year deal in 2021 is the same (length wise) as a 5 year deal this year. So while the team can be flexible Dak's position isn't. Better to just take the 5 year deal and call it a day. But then I'm a nobody on the internet so what do I know.
 

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Seems like this has been known for almost a year now, but people still want to claim it's about money. :rolleyes:

I'm not really sure how much leverage Dak has in this respect. The deadline is sometime in July. If the Cowboys don't want a 4 year contract they sure as heck won't agree to tag + 3 year deal. A 4 year deal in 2021 is the same (length wise) as a 5 year deal this year. So while the team can be flexible Dak's position isn't. Better to just take the 5 year deal and call it a day. But then I'm a nobody on the internet so what do I know.
This isn't how it works.
To tag Dak again cost over 39M.
So yes they can play out this year in full and then possibly sign a 4 year deal next year.
But that deal will almost certainly start at 37 or 38M not 35.
Dak also has personal insurance for 50M.

He has NO downside.
For him it all about dollar signs going up.
The team simply needs to give him the 4 year deal.
Creatively add a voidable year on the end for cap purposes.
 

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Seems like this has been known for almost a year now, but people still want to claim it's about money. :rolleyes:

I'm not really sure how much leverage Dak has in this respect. The deadline is sometime in July. If the Cowboys don't want a 4 year contract they sure as heck won't agree to tag + 3 year deal. A 4 year deal in 2021 is the same (length wise) as a 5 year deal this year. So while the team can be flexible Dak's position isn't. Better to just take the 5 year deal and call it a day. But then I'm a nobody on the internet so what do I know.

It may work out like that. I don't know. Like most I will be glad when this is put to rest and the focus can be on the upcoming season.
 

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DISCLAIMER:
Sorry i will clear this question up.

Are you implying this is becoming a racial issue? Because I see many black sports commentators starting to take this angle within the last week. Shannon & Steven A.

Trying to destroy Cowboy Nation Unity

Weak minds believe weak lies . .

STATEMENT:

Of course, because they are more talented


PJ has never once said anything about race at all.


Romo himself is a minority.

Curious why your mind went directly to that though.
 

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You think fear prevents people from watching TV??

Have you been outside?
There are a crap load of people out there.
Most people are more stupid and bored than scared.

The NFL makes it's money off broadcasting games.
Live in stadium crowds are nice but not required.
There are a lot of people outside but you don't see a lot of people in crowds. I don't know if 1-2 infections in teams or players could derail plans. At this juncture and the current environment it very well could. I would say more but it will get deleted. Just say there are no sure things!
 

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This is madness. Let him play on the tag. If he goes 8-8 again might as well give Andy a try.
 

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Regardless of the reason, he still hasn't signed.

Wentz and Goff, both from his draft class are under new contracts and Dak is still waiting. Makes no sense.
 

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Although we really don't know any of this (media reports have proven inaccurate time and time again), what you are saying does seem to be at least a reasonable possibility. One point I'm not so sure of though is the claim that Dak gets more leverage every day. That may have been the case for awhile, but the signing of Dalton took away some of that leverage. That's not to say either I, or the Cowboys, wouldn't prefer Dak over Dalton, but there is a much more viable alternative today than there was before Dalton was signed.


I don't see much in terms of leverage. Dak will sign at some point be it the Franchise tag or a long term deal. I think both sides would prefer the longer term deal so one Dallas is not hit with a lump sum of the franchise tag of 30 some odd mill. I think Dallas would rather see a deal done to spread the cap hit over a period of time, I think it gives the team more freedom with their cap doing it this way. For Dak it gives more security than a 1 year deal especially given the guaranteed sum of 106 mill. Either way Dak ends up with a big payday. As for Dalton again I think he would have been signed of another FA vet QB regardless of Dak contract for the simple reason, Dallas had no legit backup at one of the most critical position on the team. I don’t see an UDFA or a rookie 7th rd QB as a real option at backup. Dalton gives Dallas that security should Dak get injured and comes at a very cheap price for a backup QB
 

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This is going to play out just like Zeke, isn't it? I mean, there really isn't anything between now and July that's going to force the two sides to make a deal, right? And it's not like there's any actual (as opposed to virtual) team activities that Dak's missing, right?

*resuming thumb twiddling*
 

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You think fear prevents people from watching TV??

Have you been outside?
There are a crap load of people out there.
Most people are more stupid and bored than scared.

The NFL makes it's money off broadcasting games.
Live in stadium crowds are nice but not required.
I'm not worried about people watching on TV. I'd be worried about how much advertisers are going to be willing to pay. They are already cutting back their budgets.
 
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