Dak vs Wentz

[Sevenup3000]

Here's a "Re-Draft" of the 2016 draft, from NFL.Com. Several analysts weighed in.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...t-doover-carson-wentz-dak-prescott-snapped-up

Wentz goes #1 overall, ahead of Goff and Prescott. Prescott is the #3 QB off the board.

After everything we now know about these QB's, Wentz is still widely regarded as superior to Dak.

There is a reason for this.

Dak Prescott was a throw-away 4th round pick...Wentz was the No. 2 overall pick...Wentz is SUPPOSED to be better than Dak. It is pathetic that the Eagles spent that much draft capital on a guy yet going into the season and individual games...the best one can say is that the Eagles MAY have an advantage at QB.

Wentz was drafted much higher, paid 10x more, and had a much better team (one capable of winning the Superbowl and getting to the playoffs/winning in the playoffs with a QB that let a 6th rounder in Jacksonville beat him out)...he is SUPPOSED to be better than a QB not even promised to make the active game day roster in 2016 when he was drafted.

I have no idea why it is some great accomplishment for Wentz to be viewed better than Dak.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Dak Prescott was a throw-away 4th round pick...Wentz was the No. 2 overall pick...Wentz is SUPPOSED to be better than Dak. It is pathetic that the Eagles spent that much draft capital on a guy yet going into the season and individual games...the best one can say is that the Eagles MAY have an advantage at QB.

Wentz was drafted much higher, paid 10x more, and had a much better team (one capable of winning the Superbowl and getting to the playoffs/winning in the playoffs with a QB that let a 6th rounder in Jacksonville beat him out)...he is SUPPOSED to be better than a QB not even promised to make the active game day roster in 2016 when he was drafted.

I have no idea why it is some great accomplishment for Wentz to be viewed better than Dak.

It's not that the Eagles "may" have an advantage at QB's, it's that the Eagles far and away have an advantage at QB, that's why their guy got paid and our guy hasn't. Wentz carries his team our team carries our guy! Only advantage i give Dak over Wentz is that Dak has stayed healthier, but things like that tend to go in cycles

 

[Sevenup3000]

It's not that the Eagles "may" have an advantage at QB's, it's that the Eagles far and away have an advantage at QB, that's why their guy got paid and our guy hasn't. Wentz carries his team our team carries our guy! Only advantage i give Dak over Wentz is that Dak has stayed healthier, but things like that tend to go in cycles

Riiiiight...which is the reason the Eagles won a SB without him playing a single down in the playoffs, won 1 playoff game the next season (and should have won another) after Wentz had lost to Dak AGAIN and almost eliminating the Eagles from the playoffs (only for his backup to once again save the day)...And barely had a .500 record this season...

And the Eagles managed to do this with a QB that is not even promised the starting job over Mitch Trubisky in Chicago...after being benched for a rookie 6th rounder in Jacksonville.

Yeah, Wentz really carries the Eagles.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Simply not true.

Sure it is. Wentz is out because of injuries. Dak is better than Goff.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I deeply believe every team in the league would take Wentz over Dak in a re-draft, and most would take Goff over Dak.

You might be surprised how Goff would function given the supporting cast Dak has enjoyed.

One might disagree with their opinions, but the independent professional analysts have a perspective and level of objectivity that is absent in biased team-based fan forums.

Goff has easily outperformed Dak. He obliterated him in both 2018 and 2019 where he was a top 5 QB and named a Pro Bowler both years. Dak was named a Pro Bowler once over that span, when five other guys dropped out. And regardless of how he played in the game itself, he has been to one more Super Bowl than Dak will ever go to. I told Dak slobberers at the time, let’s see how Dak does in his first game against Bill Bellichick, let’s see if you’re still laughing then. Haven’t heard from them since.

 

[HungryLion]

Riiiiight...which is the reason the Eagles won a SB without him playing a single down in the playoffs, won 1 playoff game the next season (and should have won another) after Wentz had lost to Dak AGAIN and almost eliminating the Eagles from the playoffs (only for his backup to once again save the day)...And barely had a .500 record this season...

And the Eagles managed to do this with a QB that is not even promised the starting job over Mitch Trubisky in Chicago...after being benched for a rookie 6th rounder in Jacksonville.

Yeah, Wentz really carries the Eagles.

It’s amazing somebody would argue that Wentz carries the eagles when over the last 3 seasons the eagles record is better without him than with him.

Including 4 playoff wins since Wentz was drafted, none of which Wentz played in.

it’s amazing

 

[garyo1954]

It's not that the Eagles "may" have an advantage at QB's, it's that the Eagles far and away have an advantage at QB, that's why their guy got paid and our guy hasn't. Wentz carries his team our team carries our guy! Only advantage i give Dak over Wentz is that Dak has stayed healthier, but things like that tend to go in cycles

This is where I land as well. Wentz puts everything out on the field; that other guy needs the team to carry him. Put them on the same team, Wentz would start hands down.

 

[HungryLion]

This is where I land as well. Wentz puts everything out on the field; that other guy needs the team to carry him. Put them on the same team, Wentz would start hands down.

and then gets carried off it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wow, Dak is alot better than Wentz,?? Never said he wasn't I mention the Super Bowls each has won and fans here get really butt hurt..
I Never meant one quarterback is better than the other, I just STATED a Fact..
Some players play for money, some would rather win, some both.
Guess I hit a nerve, eh?? lol..

People don't like stupid. lol..

 

[CowboyRoy]

Division on the line, do or die, who wins?

One team is 100% healthy and the other team is full of practice squad players..

Wich QB wins?

Rest my case.

By the way, you may wanna post the stats of those head to head games that Dak has "won" over Wentz.. they may surprise you.

Time will clearly show how foolish the people comparing Dak to Wentz really were.


Only way Dak has a better career is if Wentz ends up a cripple lol but it could happen so I'll give you that.

I don't understand the Wentz hate.

Dude is a talented player no doubt.

I seen him do things only Mahomes can do.
Watch the film, the dude is extremely talented.
Sucks that he's an eagle, but he's a stud.

Maybe that's why we hate him.

Rest what case? Blaming one player for the entire team not showing up us just plain dumb. All you have done is shown how little you understand the game.

LOL...….Wentz is a stud? You guys really are Eagles trolls. Hilarious

If Wentz never missed a game like Dak I might take Wentz. I love his skills. Guy cant stay healthy. Foles actually ran the team better.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Riiiiight...which is the reason the Eagles won a SB without him playing a single down in the playoffs, won 1 playoff game the next season (and should have won another) after Wentz had lost to Dak AGAIN and almost eliminating the Eagles from the playoffs (only for his backup to once again save the day)...And barely had a .500 record this season...

And the Eagles managed to do this with a QB that is not even promised the starting job over Mitch Trubisky in Chicago...after being benched for a rookie 6th rounder in Jacksonville.

Yeah, Wentz really carries the Eagles.

They would have won it with him too, unless of course you have forgotten that before he got injured in week 15 (i think it was) he was the consensus MVP of the league

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Sure it is. Wentz is out because of injuries. Dak is better than Goff.

Nope. There is a wide consensus of independent opinions on this, by people a lot more knowledgeable than anyone on a biased fan forum, me included.

I quoted just one, but there have been many.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Nope. There is a wide consensus of independent opinions on this, by people a lot more knowledgeable than anyone on a biased fan forum, me included.

I quoted just one, but there have been many.

A wide opinion of coaches? Please show that. Your claim was what would the coaches choose.

Wentz is 100% out. No coach wants a QB that cant play an entire season.

Goff? Maybe one or two take Goff. Dak is simply better overall.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

A wide opinion of coaches? Please show that. Your claim was what would the coaches choose.

Wentz is 100% out. No coach wants a QB that cant play an entire season.

Goff? Maybe one or two take Goff. Dak is simply better overall.

Ben Rothlisberger has only played a full season 4 times in his 16 year career, what coach wouldn't want him as their QB? Troy Aikman in his 12 year career played 16 games only 3 times. Who wouldn't want Troy as their QB. These are just 2 examples their are many many others. If the guy has talent any coach would want him

 

[CowboyRoy]

Ben Rothlisberger has only played a full season 4 times in his 16 year career, what coach wouldn't want him as their QB? Troy Aikman in his 12 year career played 16 games only 3 times. Who wouldn't want Troy as their QB. These are just 2 examples their are many many others. If the guy has talent any coach would want him

Missing a few games is no big deal. Rothlisberger and Aikman are like ironmen.

Are you really comparing those guys to the brittle Wentz? Reach much?

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

A wide opinion of coaches? Please show that. Your claim was what would the coaches choose.

Wentz is 100% out. No coach wants a QB that cant play an entire season.

Goff? Maybe one or two take Goff. Dak is simply better overall.

We hold different opinions. FWIW, I hope you're right! Nobody would enjoy seeing Dak succeed more than me.

A factual observation, and not open to debate, is that your opinion is the opposite of the majority of unbiased professionals whose job it is to analyse. Are they right? Time will tell.

One can only speculate as to what a coach would do. I think Bellichick would pick Goff or Wentz over Dak so fast it would make your head spin!

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Missing a few games is no big deal. Rothlisberger and Aikman are like ironmen.

Are you really comparing those guys to the brittle Wentz? Reach much?

Big Ben missed (2,4,1,2,1,4,3,4,2,1,14) games in the years he didn't play a full season
Aikman missed (5,1,4,2,2,1,5,2,5) games in the years he didn't play a full season
Wentz played 16 games his rookie season his 2nd year he missed 3 games and in his 3rd season he missed 5 games and last season he played 16 games

Your a little confused bud!

 

[CowboyRoy]

We hold different opinions. FWIW, I hope you're right! Nobody would enjoy seeing Dak succeed more than me.

A factual observation, and not open to debate, is that your opinion is the opposite of the majority of unbiased professionals whose job it is to analyse. Are they right? Time will tell.

One can only speculate as to what a coach would do. I think Bellichick would pick Goff or Wentz over Dak so fast it would make your head spin!

The thread is about what who coaches would pick. Most would pick Dak.

No one would take Wentz. He simply cant stay healthy.

Belli takes Dak no question about it.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

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The thread is about what who coaches would pick. Most would pick Dak.

No one would take Wentz. He simply cant stay healthy.

Belli takes Dak no question about it.

I would place a bet that if you polled 32 head coaches on who they would take, 32 would pick Wentz over Dak. Mike McCarthy because he is Dak's coach might be the exception so say 31/32

 

[CowboyRoy]

Big Ben missed (2,4,1,2,1,4,3,4,2,1,14) games in the years he didn't play a full season
Aikman missed (5,1,4,2,2,1,5,2,5) games in the years he didn't play a full season
Wentz played 16 games his rookie season his 2nd year he missed 3 games and in his 3rd season he missed 5 games and last season he played 16 games

Your a little confused bud!

Um...……...wrong. Wentz missed the last games of the regular season and the playoffs while Foles won the championship for him. If you cant finish the season, you are no good to the team.

Look at those piddly games missed by Aikman and Roth for most of their careers. Meaningless 1 or 2 games here and there.

You can try again if you like. Roth and Aikman are probably two of the worst examples you could use.