Twitter: Stephen: Cowboys spending the amount in total players' salaries, regardless what we spend on Dak

[gjkoeppen]

Those aren't the type of comments anyone is referring to. Those are vastly different from things like what this thread is based on (Which is a fairly mild example).

And yes, most clubs do negotiate through the press on some contracts.

This thread was started based on a comment Stephen made about the cap in GENERAL, not anything specific about the current negotiations. Please tell me all of the times and player's contracts that were negotiated in the press using DIRECT quotes by someone on that team who is actually doing the negotiating. All there is are sportswriters and "insiders" SPECULATING on what's happening. Those speculations are not negotiating.
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[Kevinicus]

This thread was started based on a comment Stephen made about the cap in GENERAL, not anything specific about the current negotiations. Please tell me all of the times and player's contracts that were negotiated in the press using DIRECT quotes by someone on that team who is actually doing the negotiating. All there is are sportswriters and "insiders" SPECULATING on what's happening. Those speculations are not negotiating.
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*Sigh* The "regardless of what we spend on Dak" is the important part of the quote.

You just don't understand how this works. It's okay.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Of course its speculation. Unless I'm Jerry Jones (which I am not), I don't know what he is thinking. That said:
- We recently got a leak of Dallas offering a big $35m per year with lots of guaranteed money deal
- We recently got a leak of Dak asking for $42m per year
- Stephen has said this and a few other things that weren't pro Dak, which is a departure

My speculation isn't some random "hey, the earth might be flat!" type comment. Its not hard to connect the dots. I still believe that Dallas wants Dak to be their quarterback but it seems that they aren't as sure as they used to be that it is going to happen.

It doesn't matter what the yearly offer to Dak was. What matters is the total in guarantees. From what I last heard, the total in guarantees was less than Goff (and possibly Wince) have gotten, which might be what Dak is unhappy about (aside from the 4 year in length of a contract he wants compared to the Cowboys 5+ years).

 

[America's Cowboy]

*Sigh* The "regardless of what we spend on Dak" is the important part of the quote.

You just don't understand how this works. It's okay.

Stephen can *itch and complain to the press all he wants. When Dak sits out the first few games of the season (and we see this team lose a game or two under Dalton), you will see Stephen and Jerry cave in, run to and give Dak what he wants (which will be an even higher of a demand by then).

GUA...
RAN...
TEED.

So pumping your chest right now with Stephen's bravado and indirect backhand attacks is a waste of time. Fool's Gold.

 

[cern]

No, that's not what it means at all. He's saying that to put a super bowl quallity team on the field you need good players everywhere, and giving Dak too big of a chunk of the cap will keep the team from doing that.

Man, this is so simple, why can't you guys get it?

The brain is supposed to be the thinking organ. But on occasion, some think with certain sphincter muscles. Many fall within the category of mouth breathers who think Stephen is an idiot. Think of the pie. You can halve it. Quarter it. Slice it into 8 pieces or 24 pieces. But the size of the original pie , like the song, remains the same.

 

[Kevinicus]

Stephen can *itch and complain to the press all he wants. When Dak sits out the first few games of the season (and we see this team lose a game or two under Dalton), you will see Stephen and Jerry cave in, run to and give Dak what he wants (which will be an even higher of a demand by then).

GUA...
RAN...
TEED.

So pumping your chest right now with Stephen's bravado and indirect backhand attacks is a waste of time. Fool's Gold.

Are you okay? Are you doing alright? You seem stressed and appear to be hallucinating. That or dreaming about people pumping their chest or something. I suggest getting some sleep. If that doesn't work, I'm sure there is a doctor who can help you.

 

[lkelly]

Stephen can *itch and complain to the press all he wants. When Dak sits out the first few games of the season (and we see this team lose a game or two under Dalton), you will see Stephen and Jerry cave in, run to and give Dak what he wants (which will be an even higher of a demand by then).

GUA...
RAN...
TEED.

So pumping your chest right now with Stephen's bravado and indirect backhand attacks is a waste of time. Fool's Gold.

If Dak doesn't sign a long term deal by July 15, he can't do anything other than play under the tag next season. Jerry and Stephen can't "cave" and give him a big offer to sign 3 games in.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Are you okay? Are you doing alright? You seem stressed and appear to be hallucinating. That or dreaming about people pumping their chest or something. I suggest getting some sleep. If that doesn't work, I'm sure there is a doctor who can help you.

*yawn*
*fart*

 

[America's Cowboy]

If Dak doesn't sign a long term deal by July 15, he can't do anything other than play under the tag next season. Jerry and Stephen can't "cave" and give him a big offer to sign 3 games in.

If that's the case, they had best get Dak signed because if Dak sits out, this season is over before it gets started. Guaranteed.

 

[Hadenough]

Not surprised as long as we're not interested in sign any outside free with huge contracts...

Wrong! You didn't pay Byron Jones.

 

[Adreme]

If that's the case, they had best get Dak signed because if Dak sits out, this season is over before it gets started. Guaranteed.

He is not sitting out because that does not help him. His best bet is to play under the tag and then next year the tag is worth I believe a little more than 37 million and after that he can walk and not playing just removes that bullet from his chamber.

 

[leeblair]

Not surprised as long as we're not interested in sign any outside free with huge contracts...

If Dak had to go somewhere else he'd be lucky to get $10 million per year.
Build the team.

 

[Adreme]

If Dak had to go somewhere else he'd be lucky to get $10 million per year.
Build the team.

I would love to know how a person can honestly believe this? Even thos laye in the offseason when teans are set, that number is so laughably false that it seems divorced from reality.

 

[blueblood70]

 

[leeblair]

I would love to know how a person can honestly believe this? Even thos laye in the offseason when teans are set, that number is so laughably false that it seems divorced from reality.

Is Dak hiding a Super Bowl ring or some other qualifications that we don't know about?
Because up until now he looks like another 8-8, middle of the road player.

 

[Adreme]

Is Dak hiding a Super Bowl ring or some other qualifications that we don't know about?
Because up until now he looks like another 8-8, middle of the road player.

Um do you think only SB winners get the big contract? Wentz would say hi. KIrk Cousins would say hi. Jimmy G got his record deal without even starting for a full season. Dak is a top 7-13 QB but even if he wasnt he would still get 30m as evidenced by even Ryan Tannehill getting 30 million.

 

[OmerV]

Is Dak hiding a Super Bowl ring or some other qualifications that we don't know about?
Because up until now he looks like another 8-8, middle of the road player.

lol - he averages 10 wins per season, and the one 8-8 season is all you see. That says a lot about how unwilling you are to be fair minded.

As for the contract, of course the money is big, but wasn't it for Garoppolo and Cousins 2 years ago when they got the monster deals? You may have your head buried in the sand (or somewhere else), but if you pull it out long enough you may notice that contracts for $30-35 million/year with $100-110 million guaranteed are not limited to Super Bowl winners.

 

[leeblair]

Um do you think only SB winners get the big contract? Wentz would say hi. KIrk Cousins would say hi. Jimmy G got his record deal without even starting for a full season. Dak is a top 7-13 QB but even if he wasnt he would still get 30m as evidenced by even Ryan Tannehill getting 30 million.

Bottom line- Dak hasn't shown as much as guys like Case Keenum and they get paid less.
I'd take Keenum in a heartbeat and let Dak walk.

 

[Adreme]

Bottom line- Dak hasn't shown as much as guys like Case Keenum and they get paid less.
I'd take Keenum in a heartbeat and let Dak walk.

He has shown FAR more as a QB. There is no QB stat where Dak has not shown to be a top level QB. It doesnt exist. Wins are NOT a QB stat. They were not when the Cowboys were 14-2 and they are not now. Case Keenum showed, with a large sampling of games, that he is not that good. Dak has showed the opposite. In almost every category he is among the leagues best. That is a fact that is not in dispute.

 

[leeblair]

lol - he averages 10 wins per season, and the one 8-8 season is all you see. That says a lot about how unwilling you are to be fair minded.

As for the contract, of course the money is big, but wasn't it for Garoppolo and Cousins 2 years ago when they got the monster deals? You may have your head buried in the sand (or somewhere else), but if you pull it out long enough you may notice that contracts for $30-35 million/year with $100-110 million guaranteed are not limited to Super Bowl winners.

No, I see the two 8-8 seasons and the 10-6 season in the worst division in football.
I saw him choke with a 13-3 team in the first round of the playoffs- but to be fair, he was a rookie.
But in the three years since- and especially last season, game after game went by in which just one more win would have clinched the division, but he wasn't up to the challenge.
Now if that's what you're looking for in a franchise quarterback, that's your business.
But Cowboys fans should demand better.