Video: Andy Dalton is putting in some work! Shows some great accuracy as well!

[phildadon86]

Against those powerhouse teams like the Giants, Commanders, and Dolphins?

Same dolphins that Carson wentz lost to?

 

[phildadon86]

Andy Dalton is a much more
Naturally gifted passer who has a stronger arm and is more accurate than Dak.

Thanks for posting this

 

[Redball Express]

1. I put them in quotations because those are the terms used by many if not most of his supporters on this site.

2. The Dalton stuff works both ways. Dak’s supporters dont watch a majority of his games either, so when they state Dak is more accurate, they are only looking at a stat sheet

It's the dycotomy of this fan site.

Older fans watch the games and decide what they see.

Younger fans raised in the time of Google..prefer their phones to do their thinking for them.

They believe if it's on the web..it MUST be right.

What a joke.

I like technology but it's only as good as the reader is in analyzing data.

It's like these doctors on TV talking about cures.

They have no clue what this virus is doing. It keeps mutating and we are always behind defeating it.

The doctors daily contradict themselves about what to do...

wear a mask, no need for masks, kids are immune, no they are not.

Information can not always tell the story.

 

[Redball Express]

Well we know for sure that Dak could not put it in that basket 3 times in a row. I doubt he could hit it 1 out of 3

Remember at the pre-SB interviews?

They asked him to throw at a target to show how accurate he was.

He barely could hit the wall much less the target.

He quickly left the interview and made a complete fool of himself.

I LMAO.

 

[Redball Express]

I didn’t have to see this video to tell you that Dalton’s accuracy is far greater than Dak’s. It’s from the dreaded eye test of watching both play in actual games. Dak’s accuracy is awful despite those 68-69% fantasy #s.

For sure.

Do you guys remember last year...

Dak about every game Dak would throw a pass right b/,w the numbers of an opposing DB..

and the DB would be so shocked he would drop it.

This happened game after game. Had any of those guys held the ball. It's pick 6.

Nobody mentions this stuff but it's there.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Dak's biggest strength is his ability to not make dumb throws. He rarely takes shots where you are thinking "Why the hell did you throw that?!?!?" Even last year, a lot of his INT's were off receiver's hands. To some extent, I think Cowboy fans have got spoiled with it. Its a valuable skill. A pick 6 at the wrong time will lose you a game.

Dak also has a stronger arm on deep throws. Dalton has a tendency to float them. On intermediate throws where its a direct line, I think Dalton throws it harder where Dak tries to place it a little. Dalton has Dak on pure accuracy, that is to say from a comfortable pocket while not moving, I think Dalton will hit targets better than Dak.

I've watched Dalton for a long time. I agree, he can't push the ball throw wind etc., like Dak can. If you watch Dalton, his numbers fall off as the weather turns because of this IMO. But he's a lot more accurate, in terms of just hitting the easy, open target IMO. As I watched that clip of Dalton making throws into the net, I just keep thinking about Dak doing that challenge against Carr, I think it was, where car was hitting stationary targets and Dak was missing. IDK, it's hard to figure out why Dak's accuracy just leaves at times.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I've watched Dalton for a long time. I agree, he can't push the ball throw wind etc., like Dak can. If you watch Dalton, his numbers fall off as the weather turns because of this IMO. But he's a lot more accurate, in terms of just hitting the easy, open target IMO. As I watched that clip of Dalton making throws into the net, I just keep thinking about Dak doing that challenge against Carr, I think it was, where car was hitting stationary targets and Dak was missing. IDK, it's hard to figure out why Dak's accuracy just leaves at times.

This is the video I was thinking of.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Being good is being named the starter by the coaches.

Backup is for in case of problems.

He has been a fireman.

A decent one but it is his legacy so far.

I like Dak up to a point but he has proven time and again he is under prepared as a starter at times.

Dalton lost in the playoffs. Look who he had to beat with weak defenses?

Brady. Manning, now Mahomes and Jackson in the AFC.

You, me, Dak would lose, too.

I do not worry about any of that.

Dallas has new coaches, new FAs and we are not done yet.

We still have cap to spend.

Stand bye for further updates.

well, good is when given the chance, you perform. you perform when it counts. perhaps, the coaches, specially the coaches we had were short minded, thinking he is a rookie, I don't trust him. yet, when opportunity came, he performed, he led the team to win after win after win...now, I know your response (or perhaps dak detractor responses)...when he went 13-3 it was the team not dak, when we went 8-8 it was dak not the team....that's how the spin goes. and lets not forget, Romo came back healthy and coaches named Dak the starter.....wouldn't let romo back on the field.

and now, the excuses for Dalton's lack of performance in the playoffs start....on the one hand, Dak went 8-8, he sucks. on the other hand Dalton went 0-5 look who he had to beat (which he didn't)….that's how the spin goes.

and bengals had pretty good defenses during those years, so lets not make it as if they were chump change....but that's how the spin goes

and in the playoffs he played against Texans twice, chargers, then indy and Pittsburgh, Indy scored 25 and pitt scored 18...in both of those games cinci scored 10 and 16 respectively.....that's awful. that's bad. really bad...that's about what they averaged in the other playoff games...nothing to do with defense....the offense couldn't do anything!!!


Dalton is a great back up at this point in his career. one that has proven he can't do anything in the playoffs, one that we know folds under pressure, but one that can win some regular season games for you and is decently reliable at that....so its a win for dallas to have gone from UDFA Rush to Andy Dalton as back up QB

 

[shabazz]

It's the dycotomy of this fan site.

Older fans watch the games and decide what they see.

Younger fans raised in the time of Google..prefer their phones to do their thinking for them.

They believe if it's on the web..it MUST be right.

.

I wont buy or believe in any product being pitched unless Morgan Freeman's voice is pitching it or an Alicia Key's song is being played as background music.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

For sure.

Do you guys remember last year...

Dak about every game Dak would throw a pass right b/,w the numbers of an opposing DB..

and the DB would be so shocked he would drop it.

This happened game after game. Had any of those guys held the ball. It's pick 6.

Nobody mentions this stuff but it's there.

and the spin made up fantasy stories continue....

you remember how many passes he hit the WRs between the numbers and they dropped the ball. in fact, dallas had the highest number of drops by WRs in the league...yeah, let that sink in

 

[Runwildboys]

Couldn't help but think while watching that, that Dak would miss the net at least once

Dak might've knocked one of the kids down! .....J/K

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Imagine a stan of Dak, claiming someone else has low standards


You are a part of his “cult” and hes an average player

you are part of a minority..all the stats, facts and the FACT that they are negotiating a $35 million/year contract says otherwise, and that is from people in football world, who shiet more football knowledge than you and I combined!!!

LOL

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

well, good is when given the chance, you perform. you perform when it counts. perhaps, the coaches, specially the coaches we had were short minded, thinking he is a rookie, I don't trust him. yet, when opportunity came, he performed, he led the team to win after win after win...now, I know your response (or perhaps dak detractor responses)...when he went 13-3 it was the team not dak, when we went 8-8 it was dak not the team....that's how the spin goes. and lets not forget, Romo came back healthy and coaches named Dak the starter.....wouldn't let romo back on the field.

and now, the excuses for Dalton's lack of performance in the playoffs start....on the one hand, Dak went 8-8, he sucks. on the other hand Dalton went 0-5 look who he had to beat (which he didn't)….that's how the spin goes.

and bengals had pretty good defenses during those years, so lets not make it as if they were chump change....but that's how the spin goes

and in the playoffs he played against Texans twice, chargers, then indy and Pittsburgh, Indy scored 25 and pitt scored 18...in both of those games cinci scored 10 and 16 respectively.....that's awful. that's bad. really bad...that's about what they averaged in the other playoff games...nothing to do with defense....the offense couldn't do anything!!!


Dalton is a great back up at this point in his career. one that has proven he can't do anything in the playoffs, one that we know folds under pressure, but one that can win some regular season games for you and is decently reliable at that....so its a win for dallas to have gone from UDFA Rush to Andy Dalton as back up QB

Genuine question...when you say "led the team to win after win after win"...what do you think Day did to "lead". Something specific...not just no turnovers. I guess I should say I feel a team can win and doesn't necessarily mean the QB LEAD them to that win. So I just wanted to get some clarification on that.

What I also see is if Dak falters, if was Garrett or all the dropped balls. If Dalton falters he's just a has been back up. I'm missing the connection there if you want to set me straight.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

you are part of a minority..all the stats, facts and the FACT that they are negotiating a $35 million/year contract says otherwise, and that is from people in football world, who shiet more football knowledge than you and I combined!!!

LOL

BUT BUT>>>>Jerry overspends, overdrafts and overpays. At least that's what I've been hearing for 10+ years. Now suddenly in THIS case it's proof? Hmmm. Set me straight man!

 

[plasticman]

Put Dak on the Bengals and Dalton on the Cowboys and those stats flip.

Perhaps six years ago.....not today.

Last season Dak would have performed better for the Bengals than Dalton, although an improvement might have been three or four game difference. At the very least, Dak's durability alone would have improved over the 0 passes Dalton threw in games 9 thru 11. I'm confident he would have improved on rookie QB Ryan Finley's numbers of 47.1% completion rate with 2 TD's, 2 INT's and a passer rating of 62 for those combined three games.

Dak's mobility and escapability would have reduced the sacks, created more room for the RB since the opponent would have to consider Dak's ability to run, something they didn't have to fear from Dalton. Let's not get into this "poor Andy" mindset when it comes to last season, it's not like he was given 0 weapons. He had a thousand yard rusher as well as a thousand yard receiver.

Three of the Bengal's first five games were losses by 4 or less points. In two of them, Dalton turned the ball over in the last seconds of the game, one was an end zone INT, the other was a fumble. I think that a victory in those games would have given them more confidence as the season went on, that is, they wouldnt have ended up 2-14.

Again, it's important to remember that we are getting last season's Dalton, not last decade's Dalton.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I wont buy or believe in any product being pitched unless Morgan Freeman's voice is pitching it or an Alicia Key's song is being played as background music.

So basically, what your telling me is that if I can get Freeman with an Alicia Key voice over, I can pretty much sell you anything?

Good to know.....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Genuine question...when you say "led the team to win after win after win"...what do you think Day did to "lead". Something specific...not just no turnovers. I guess I should say I feel a team can win and doesn't necessarily mean the QB LEAD them to that win. So I just wanted to get some clarification on that.

What I also see is if Dak falters, if was Garrett or all the dropped balls. If Dalton falters he's just a has been back up. I'm missing the connection there if you want to set me straight.

its the same line of argument that dak detractors use, saying Dak went 8-8.....so if he is responsible for 8-8, then he is also responsible for 13-3......but you can't say when we went 13-3, it was the team, but when we went 8-8 it was Dak.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

BUT BUT>>>>Jerry overspends, overdrafts and overpays. At least that's what I've been hearing for 10+ years. Now suddenly in THIS case it's proof? Hmmm. Set me straight man!

not sure I understand the question. this is a new line of argument you are throwing in there.....there is a cap. Jerry and the NFL spend within the cap...and QB salaries are what they are today. Cousins making 33M, Wilson the same, and now salaries creeping up to 35M..... and soon, Mahomes going above 40 or 45 (unless he gives a home town discount)……. so Jerry offering 35M contract is not over spending.....over paying....its the market value as set in the NFL market....

 

[HungryLion]

1. I put them in quotations because those are the terms used by many if not most of his supporters on this site.

2. The Dalton stuff works both ways. Dak’s supporters dont watch a majority of his games either, so when they state Dak is more accurate, they are only looking at a stat sheet

Yeah. Stats that are derived from people who actually do watch every play of every game and then document the results. You say that like it’s a bad thing.


Dak is not the most accurate QB. But Dak’s accuracy issues are way overblown by fans who only watch every pass Dak throws and then nitpicks every miss because they don’t see all the other misses that other QB’s have because they only see those other QB’s play a handful of times a year and not all 16 games.

That’s what all the documented stats point out.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Yeah. Stats that are derived from people who actually do watch every play of every game and then document the results.

The stats show that Dak is a more accurate thrower than Aaron Rodgers.

You sure this is the hill you want to die on?