Video: Andy Dalton is putting in some work! Shows some great accuracy as well!

[erod]

I'm well aware how you feel about our best overall player Red...

Oh my gawd.

Dak is the 8th best player we have on offense.

 

[Londonboy]

It's Andy Dalton.

 

[HungryLion]

The stats show that Dak is a more accurate thrower than Aaron Rodgers.

You sure this is the hill you want to die on?

I’m not dying on any hill. You’re twisting the subject now. It’s not about if Dak is more accurate than Rodgers or not. It’s about how people who only see every Dak pass and see only a fraction of other QB’s passes, overstate his accuracy issues despite a lot of factual evidence that those issues are overblown.

It doesn’t mean every single stat is infallible. It means people are ignoring data to suite their pre conceived bias based off just what they see, which is ultimately limited. That’s the point I’m making.

Dak is easily in the top 10 in the league when it comes to accuracy. Most Other QB’s have certain routes and passes they struggle with making too. It’s not just Dak. That’s my point.

 

[erod]

That was impressive accuracy.

Dak couldn't hit that target twice with 500 footballs.

 

[erod]

It's Andy Dalton.

Who went to the playoffs every year his first five years and put up 10 wins or more in four of those years.

In Cincinnati for crying out loud.

 

[Denim Chicken]

It's the dycotomy of this fan site.

Older fans watch the games and decide what they see.

Younger fans raised in the time of Google..prefer their phones to do their thinking for them.

They believe if it's on the web..it MUST be right.

What a joke.

I like technology but it's only as good as the reader is in analyzing data.

It's like these doctors on TV talking about cures.

They have no clue what this virus is doing. It keeps mutating and we are always behind defeating it.

The doctors daily contradict themselves about what to do...

wear a mask, no need for masks, kids are immune, no they are not.

Information can not always tell the story.

ok, boomer

 

[Denim Chicken]

Who went to the playoffs every year his first five years and put up 10 wins or more in four of those years.

In Cincinnati for crying out loud.

whos just got replaced because they only won 2 games last year?

 

[erod]

whos just got replaced because they only won 2 games last year?

Because they're the Bengals and sold off their entire team to rebuild.

The Brown family is notoriously cheap. They feed off the TV money and do the bare minimum required by the CBA.

Dallas wins more than 8 games last year with Dalton.

 

[WillieBeamen]

I’m not dying on any hill. You’re twisting the subject now. It’s not about if Dak is more accurate than Rodgers or not. It’s about how people who only see every Dak pass and see only a fraction of other QB’s passes, overstate his accuracy issues despite a lot of factual evidence that those issues are overblown.

It doesn’t mean every single stat is infallible. It means people are ignoring data to suite their pre conceived bias based off just what they see, which is ultimately limited. That’s the point I’m making.

Im not twisting the subject.

You said we critique Dak more for missed throws because we watch every single snap he takes. In comparison, we only see a small fraction of Dalton’s throws because we dont watch all of his games. That is all true.

My point is that it works both ways. Folks that say Andy isnt as good as Dak and not as accurate are only pointing to the stats sheet to make that determination, seeing as they arent watching all of his snaps either.

You said “Stats that are derived from people who actually do watch everyplay of every game and then document the results“.

Im saying that those stats dont always tell the whole story. If so, Dak would be considered a more Accurate thrower than Aaron Rodgers.

There are QBs that are asked to make throws Dak doesnt make (Back-Shoulder, Fades).


All im saying is lets not sit here and act like this guy doesnt have issues with ball-placement (something I give you credit for actually admitting)

 

[Londonboy]

Who went to the playoffs every year his first five years and put up 10 wins or more in four of those years.

In Cincinnati for crying out loud.

Dat's da Bunny.
Possibly the best B/U QB in the NFL, I'm thrilled We've got Him.
But if He's Your starter, You're not winning anything.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Because they're the Bengals and sold off their entire team to rebuild.

The Brown family is notoriously cheap. They feed off the TV money and do the bare minimum required by the CBA.

Dallas wins more than 8 games last year with Dalton.

OK. Riddle me this. How many of those playoff games did Dalton win?

How many has Dak won in a much shorter career?

Wow just look at those playoff numbers. 4 loses for 4 games. 1 TD & 6 ints.

That's almost as good as Dak's 7 TDs & 2 picks in 3 game & 1-2 record.

 

[Swagger]

Go on Andy

 

[JoeKing]

I didn’t have to see this video to tell you that Dalton’s accuracy is far greater than Dak’s. It’s from the dreaded eye test of watching both play in actual games. Dak’s accuracy is awful despite those 68-69% fantasy #s.

That's just your hate talking. If Dak's accuracy was truly that bad, he would not have one of the highest career passer ratings among active QBs. Even higher than your newest buddy, Andy. lol You make this too easy sometimes, well, all the time.

 

[HungryLion]

Im not twisting the subject.

You said we critique Dak more for missed throws because we watch every single snap he takes. In comparison, we only see a small fraction of Dalton’s throws because we dont watch all of his games. That is all true.

My point is that it works both ways. Folks that say Andy isnt as good as Dak and not as accurate are only pointing to the stats sheet to make that determination, seeing as they arent watching all of his snaps either.

You said “Stats that are derived from people who actually do watch everyplay of every game and then document the results“.

Im saying that those stats dont always tell the whole story. If so, Dak would be considered a more Accurate thrower than Aaron Rodgers.

There are QBs that are asked to make throws Dak doesnt make (Back-Shoulder, Fades).


All im saying is lets not sit here and act like this guy doesnt have issues with ball-placement (something I give you credit for actually admitting)

You’re right they don’t always tell the whole story. No argument there. I just think it’s about strong for people to be clamoring for Andy Dalton based on a 3 minute workout video. Ya know.

I know some of it is Dak fatigue that causes it. I get it. But c’mon.

if the Red rifle did become our starter I would be rooting for him to ball out and prove me wrong. Believe me. I just don’t think it would be the best thing. We shall see though.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Dak finishes 2019 as one of the NFL's most accurate passers, as accounted for in multiple statistical databases:

*fans blow it off*

Dalton tosses a few into a net in his back yard:

*OMG, such accuracy!*

I'm not crazy about paying $35 million for any QB, but the narratives of this place have rendered any sort of objective analysis virtually obsolete.

nailed it

 

[JoeKing]

You think Dak’s critics are “lying” or “seeing things” when they mention accuracy issues?

I don't think that. I know that. Dak's stat sheet when compared to the rest of the league's QB stat sheets speaks volumes about how the critics outright lie about Dak's accuracy. And you fall for those lies hook, line, and sinker every damn time.

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

I don't think Dalton is a bad quarterback. I just don't think he gets better with talent. I know that sounds crazy but look at Baker Mayfield for instance. Great supporting cast but he didn't look any better than he did his rookie year. RYAN FITZPATRICK is the same way. Dalton isn't bad by any means but he's not going to turn into a top 10 quarterback based on talent around him. He's always going to be Andy Dalton.

Fair enough retort my friend.

Maybe I have my blue shade glasses on, but I think he can get better.

By the way, a lot of this board could learn about disagreeing without the nastiness. We have proved it can be done. Probably dating myself a bit but I remember the days when most with different opinions could do it in a civil way.

Have a great day.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You’re right they don’t always tell the whole story. No argument there. I just think it’s about strong for people to be clamoring for Andy Dalton based on a 3 minute workout video. Ya know.

I know some of it is Dak fatigue that causes it. I get it. But c’mon.

if the Red rifle did become our starter I would be rooting for him to ball out and prove me wrong. Believe me. I just don’t think it would be the best thing. We shall see though.

Honestly, I don't really think it's about a three minute video as much as it is about the seemingly endless contract demands. I think people are getting tired of this. I mean, I was watching the sports talk shows this morning and the news of this latest proposal was barely discussed and when it was, there seemed to be very little interest in it. That says something, to me, at a time when these shows are dying for any news to discuss at all. I think the interest in all of this is kinda dwindling and that is probably not positive news for Dak. I think he's losing support here but that's just my opinion.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Fair enough retort my friend.

Maybe I have my blue shade glasses on, but I think he can get better.

By the way, a lot of this board could learn about disagreeing without the nastiness. We have proved it can be done. Probably dating myself a bit but I remember the days when most with different opinions could do it in a civil way.

Have a great day.

So let me ask you.....when you say get better....to what extent? You think top 10 production next season?

And this board is nasty....soon as a disagreement comes there's name calling. I don' understand it.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I think the interest in all of this is kinda dwindling and that is probably not positive news for Dak. I think he's losing support here but that's just my opinion.

Support / interest from Fans has zero influence on the negotiations.