Twitter: Cowboys offer Dak 5 year $175 million deal **FAKE RUMOR**

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John813

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You’ll have to speak for yourself on that one.

his teammates were:


AJ green a consensus top 3 receiver in the entire league

Jermaine Gresham. A tight end who made 2 pro bowls himself.

Mohammed Sanu a solid #2 receiver for multiple teams now.

Jeremy Hill who rushed for almost 1200 yards and Giovanni Bernard who rushed for another like 600 yards.



Stop with the Andy Dalton didn’t have talent around him, BS narrative that is completely false.

The closest the Bengals got to winning a playoff game recently was 2016, and Dalton wasn't even the starter due to a broken thumb. Burfict blew that game for them.

Damn franchise is cursed
 

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This greedy POS doesn't deserve a dime if he dont take that deal. Stop with the negotiation, highest paid for not even producing a Super Bowl? Sign it or trade him away.
 

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And if the Bengals don't draft Burrow he would be starting and making 18 Million a season. When Dalton signed that contract he was in the top dozen or so contracts when he didn't have the same argument Prescott does.
My point is “pro bowl” quarterback doesn’t always mean “franchise quarterback “.
 

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You’ll have to speak for yourself on that one.

his teammates were:


AJ green a consensus top 3 receiver in the entire league

Jermaine Gresham. A tight end who made 2 pro bowls himself.

Mohammed Sanu a solid #2 receiver for multiple teams now.

Jeremy Hill who rushed for almost 1200 yards and Giovanni Bernard who rushed for another like 600 yards.



Stop with the Andy Dalton didn’t have talent around him narrative that is completely false.

Gio Bernard cmon now
Everybody gets stats cmon now. It’s the bengals they suck he to them to the playoffs and nOw he’s a backup .

dak acting like he’s won something idk man we’ve seen flashes in the pan before.
 

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My point is “pro bowl” quarterback doesn’t always mean “franchise quarterback “.

Sure, and I agree with the argument that Dak is good but not elite. But he is still going to get paid the market rate for the better QBs and I don't think anyone really disputes that other than the Willie Beamon types.
 

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Yes I am. But did Emmett turn down such a contract, if you prorated it back to 1993?

As for me, I've been a fan since '78.

And btw Emmett was CLEARLY in the top 1-2 of RBs at the time, with Barry Sanders.

Is Dak a top 2-4 QB? I say no. What say you?
Doesn't matter where Dak is ranked. In 2020 when it comes to young quarterbacks whoever is next is the highest paid. Its how its been for sometime now.

To answer you though no Dak is not top 4.....yet.

Ya mother
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You're funny........
 

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Gio Bernard cmon now
Everybody gets stats cmon now. It’s the bengals they suck he to them to the playoffs and nOw he’s a backup .

dak acting like he’s won something idk man we’ve seen flashes in the pan before.


Nice for you to skip over the rest of the supporting cast. It’s also funny you mention Bernard when he was part of a committee that included Jeremy Hill and ran for 1800 yards.

The point was you said nobody knows who his supporting cast is. When his supporting cast consisted of other pro bowlers and one of the best receivers in the entire league.
 

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please Jones, make a negociation to trade this moron, with this offense corp any QB can win, we don't need whimsical children. Cam Newton, Joe Flacco are available, Josh Rosen it's an option to future, we have Andy Dalton!!!
 

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Sure, and I agree with the argument that Dak is good but not elite. But he is still going to get paid the market rate for the better QBs and I don't think anyone really disputes that other than the Willie Beamon types.
Which makes his long contract length demand suspect to me. Take the short deal and cash out once Mahomes sets the new market at like $300m
 

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You’ll have to speak for yourself on that one.

his teammates were:


AJ green a consensus top 3 receiver in the entire league

Jermaine Gresham. A tight end who made 2 pro bowls himself.

Mohammed Sanu a solid #2 receiver for multiple teams now.

Jeremy Hill who rushed for almost 1200 yards and Giovanni Bernard who rushed for another like 600 yards.



Stop with the Andy Dalton didn’t have talent around him narrative that is completely false.
Its only true to people that cant name NFL players that have never been associated with the Cowboys

Not to mention his OL was considered by most the 2nd best in the NFL after ours
 

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Don’t know why they won’t. If you are sold he’s going to take the next step you should have no issue with 45M in year 5 as that’s gonna be the going rate for franchise passers anyway.

If you have any reservation you would welcome a 4 year deal as to get out faster. Don’t see the logic.

Because they'd be catering and giving Dak everything he wants which is not the way you want to do business. They did it once with Zeke and that's probably why Dak and his agent are playing such hardball now. There needs to be a give and take on both sides, not one side making a demand and then never backing off it or making accommodations. It may be great business for Dak and his agent, but it's for the team, which is far far more important than one player.
 

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Nice for you to skip over the rest of the supporting cast. It’s also funny you mention Bernard when he was part of a committee that included Jeremy Hill and ran for 1800 yards.

The point was you said nobody knows who his supporting cast is. When his supporting cast consisted of other pro bowlers and one of the best receivers in the entire league.
Yea I skipped them bc they’re obviously fine enough players I’m just laughing at you adding a straw to the camels back you’re like hmm who else oh yea gio Bernard and his 600 yards !

but anyway the point remains that it’s fair to question dak being our long term answer going into this decade. Guys make pro bowls. It happens.


Not a lot of guys won super bowls who don’t jump off your screen.
Eli manning, Trent dilfer etc.
 

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Honestly? Stephen outright said in the Florio interview that everyone should anticipate that no deal will happen until very close to the 7/15 deadline. Somehow, that makes a lot of sense... and yet, somehow that quote has been largely been ignored.

And pardon me if I read into that, then, that the deal has already been essentially done, but that it's only due diligence for the purposes of both sides to not sign anything prematurely, ie, in the event that another QB contract could get done b/t now and then that would re-set the market in some significant way.

Honestly, the sequel?

I'd rather see all the Dak contract posts go to their own unique standalone forum than to have any mere mention of "that thing going around" (I won't use the term) force any given broader discussion (eg, pertaining to the season) to a unique standalone forum.
 

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Its only true to people that cant name NFL players that have never been associated with the Cowboys

Not to mention his OL was considered by most the 2nd best in the NFL after ours
Its only true to people that cant name NFL players that have never been associated with the Cowboys

Not to mention his OL was considered by most the 2nd best in the NFL after ours
No you’re right the bengals are historically very good. Gonna tell my grandkids about jermaine gresham
 

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Because they'd be catering and giving Dak everything he wants which is not the way you want to do business. They did it once with Zeke and that's probably why Dak and his agent are playing such hardball now. There needs to be a give and take on both sides, not one side making a demand and then never backing off it or making accommodations. It may be great business for Dak and his agent, but it's for the team, which is far far more important than one player.
I’m pretty sure these AAV’s are the agree in the middle number. Cowboys have offered 30-33 in the past and Dak has been reported to ask for as much as 40. The reported 35-36M AAV is in fact both sides meeting in the middle.

Unfortunately there is no 4.5 year contract, so the issue of length will be tied into money. Want him for longer you gotta pay more, you want him for cheaper it’s shorter term. That in itself is a compromise. If one side got their way, it would be a long term deal cheap for the FO and short term and expensive for Dak; but that isn’t the case.

It’s a matter of which compromise these two sides like more. My thing is just agree to one and get it over with.
 

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No you’re right the bengals are historically very good. Gonna tell my grandkids about jermaine gresham
Did you watch football other than Cowboys football from during Daltons prime? He played on a very talent team. The fact you dont know the players, speaks to your ignorance and not the level of talent.
 

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I’m pretty sure these AAV’s are the agree in the middle number. Cowboys have offered 30-33 in the past and Dak has been reported to ask for as much as 40. The reported 35-36M AAV is in fact both sides meeting in the middle.

Unfortunately there is no 4.5 year contract, so the issue of length will be tied into money. Want him for longer you gotta pay more, you want him for cheaper it’s shorter term. That in itself is a compromise. If one side got their way, it would be a long term deal cheap for the FO and short term and expensive for Dak; but that isn’t the case.

It’s a matter of which compromise these two sides like more. My thing is just agree to one and get it over with.

Depending on the structure, a shorter deal is not necessarily cheaper. Dak is going to get the most money a QB has ever gotten, he's not really compromising. He came out with a huge number (allegedly) to start because that's how you negotiate. I don't think France or Dak ever actually envisioned or expected to get $40M/yr.

Dak's agent is essentially making the fifth year a poison pill.
 
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