Do we make a difference?

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How many of you that work yourself up on either side of the Dak contract discussion really think it makes a difference? I hate Garrett and I was not shy about, even got benched a handful of times because of it. I saw it as fun banter and just used it to mess around. I think most of us here do the same with Dak. Will anyone step up and say that that they will renounce their fan hood if we sign or dont sign Dak? Any hardcore?
The only difference we make to the DC organization is butts in seats and concession sales.

Jerry & Co really don’t care about what kinda cheese goes with Zoner whine.
 

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I like Dak but no. I feel like my skin is alligator thick with regards to the Cowboys by now. I can’t think of a single player I would renounce my fandom for. That said there is one ex player that has turned him into some sort of Marxist revolutionary. Had they signed that guy I would 100pct be done.
Mendenhall and Kapernick
 

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And there you go again. Unable to defend Dak with his own merits and have to revert to attacking Romo. I was against Romo's contracts then am against paying any one player too much, but not knowing the true negotiations, I just feel the possible reduced cap should be taken into consideration.
I'm not attacking Romo. Simply stating facts. Romo went Hollywood early in his career all on his own. That's not including other things he did that distracted him even more like trying to make a PGA golf tournament, etc, instead of focusing only on the Cowboys early in his career. Romo sought the limelight as soon as he became a starter, and it hurt the Cowboys. Those are facts. Why can't you admit that without falsely accusing me of attacking Romo? Simply stating the facts which Romo committed all on his own and affected the Cowboys bro. If Dak pulled off such crap, I would be bashing him as well. These players having only so many years during their early and prime years to make the best out of trying to focus and lead the Cowboys to something of value. They should hold back on their own extra curricular activities and goals once they actually reach or win a championship or two, don't you think?
 

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@Ranching, you know Jerry was checking the Zone on that laptop the other day, looking for some advice on Dak and Jamal Adams.

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How many of you that work yourself up on either side of the Dak contract discussion really think it makes a difference? I hate Garrett and I was not shy about, even got benched a handful of times because of it. I saw it as fun banter and just used it to mess around. I think most of us here do the same with Dak. Will anyone step up and say that that they will renounce their fan hood if we sign or don't sign Dak? Any hardcore?
In a word, no. I want a winning team on the field that excels and improves in the post season.
I will follow the Cowboys no matter who is at the helm. I really didn't care for Hogeboom, but, I always wanted him to succeed when he was in.
You didn't like Garrett? Wow, the truth emerges. :muttley:
 

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I'm not attacking Romo. Simply stating facts. Romo went Hollywood early in his career all on his own. That's not including other things he did that distracted him even more like trying to make a PGA golf tournament, etc, instead of focusing only on the Cowboys early in his career. Romo sought the limelight as soon as he became a starter, and it hurt the Cowboys. Those are facts. Why can't you admit that without falsely accusing me of attacking Romo? Simply stating the facts which Romo committed all on his own and affected the Cowboys bro. If Dak pulled off such crap, I would be bashing him as well. These players having only so many years during their early and prime years to make the best out of trying to focus and lead the Cowboys to something of value. They should hold back on their own extra curricular activities and goals once they actually reach or win a championship or two, don't you think?

He spent some of his off-season doing that stuff, but always worked on improving his game every off-season to. It's not really objective to say what he did was detrimental to his or the team's play. It's like stating Dak's squirt gun antic hurt the team. You always resort to disparaging Romo when someone criticizes Dak. There is not relation, no correlation. Dak doesn't spend every waking second improving his game, so he should be criticized to the same degree is what you're saying.
 

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How many of you that work yourself up on either side of the Dak contract discussion really think it makes a difference? I hate Garrett and I was not shy about, even got benched a handful of times because of it. I saw it as fun banter and just used it to mess around. I think most of us here do the same with Dak. Will anyone step up and say that that they will renounce their fan hood if we sign or dont sign Dak? Any hardcore?
I'll always be a fan of the Cowboys. I mean I supported Garrett until the last 2 years. That's a fan!! Stupid fan, but a fan!
 

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Mendenhall and Kapernick

If you say the K word I think the mods move to defcon 5.

That guy is a turbo azz clown that has done irreparable damage to the game. I was nervous Jerry was going to do something stupid.
 

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I like dak. I want him to be our qb. I want to see him get a good deal. I have no problem with a 4 year deal. But there is a limit to what i'd pay him. 33 million. 100% guaranteed. 4 years. If he doesn't take it, play him on the tag this season while considering next year. He still has room for improvement.
 

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He spent some of his off-season doing that stuff, but always worked on improving his game every off-season to. It's not really objective to say what he did was detrimental to his or the team's play. It's like stating Dak's squirt gun antic hurt the team. You always resort to disparaging Romo when someone criticizes Dak. There is not relation, no correlation. Dak doesn't spend every waking second improving his game, so he should be criticized to the same degree is what you're saying.
No, sir.

FACT: Romo would be seen on Regular Season off-days (Tuesdays) out and about in Los Angeles with that Hollywood limelight attention freak, Jessica Simpson. 2007 - 2009. Romo started dating Carrie Underwood ever since he got his first starting gig 1/3 of the way through the 2006 season and continued dating her into 2007 before he left her for Jessica Simpson. Romo started dating his current wife (and ex-Miss America), Candice Crawford, whose brother is also an American actor, as soon as he broke up with Jessica Simpson during 2009. What do all 3 have in common? All have direct ties to Hollywood. Romo went Hollywood since the day he got the starting gig in 2006, and he didn't stop. Full Hollywood. So many praised him for it even though he had accomplished nothing to help lead the Cowboys to any championship game whatsoever. What did that accomplish or lead the Cowboys to? You don't believe Romo's off-the-field Hollywood limelight seeking attention was a distraction? Time proved that it was.

You didn't see Roger Staubach, Danny White or Troy Aikman do that. They focused on their profession. Yes, Troy started dating Country music singer, Lorrie Morgan, back in 1993, but that was after he had led the team to a Super Bowl championship. Yes, they all appeared in commercials at one time or another throughout their careers (perks of being America's Team's QB), but none of them went Hollywood. Only Romo did. Who flies to Los Angeles and is seen partying in downtown LA with a bunch of Hollywood stars on an "off day" Regular Season Tuesday on a weekly basis? Answer: Romo. How many Super Bowl wins did he lead the Cowboys to? Answer: Zero. How many NFC Championship games did he lead the Cowboys to? Answer: Zero. But he going Hollywood had no correlation?

:huh::facepalm:

If Dak suddenly pulled the same crap, I would blast him for such a crazy decision, especially if you have yet to lead the Cowboys to any kind of championship game.
 

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Our "best player" on an 8-8 team is not saying very much.

If the other 52 players, or a significant part of that team cannot carry their end of the load, and the team is 8-8, blaming the player in question seems a bit sophomoric.
 

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How many of you that work yourself up on either side of the Dak contract discussion really think it makes a difference? I hate Garrett and I was not shy about, even got benched a handful of times because of it. I saw it as fun banter and just used it to mess around. I think most of us here do the same with Dak. Will anyone step up and say that that they will renounce their fan hood if we sign or dont sign Dak? Any hardcore?
First. Point is kinda moot. Can you really see any way Jerry doesnt sign his prized fourth rounder?

Secondly, I've heard around here Garrett was awesome. After all, it's a "process" and how in the world is anyone supposed to build a team in only a decade? Not nearly enough time to have success.

He was nice enough to not ask the players to have to learn too much, or be accountable. All you've got to do is convince your boss you're a genius and let him undermine you repeatedly and pretend not to notice or care.

Tremendous coach, and I'm willing to thumb wrestle any of you over it!!
 

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Yes.

I will not follow him.

I prefer Dalton.

If not him then just for this season and we draft high in 2021.

I have just arrived at my end with all this drama.

He is not leading us..he is dividing us.

He is undermining Big Mike as to who is the real leader of the team.

That to me is and only can be McCarthy.

Dak needs to step back and prove himself.

Whatever equity he thinks he has now has to start over now.

Dak is the wrong guy for this team going forward. I prefer a more experienced guy who is hungry.

Dak is fat over himself.

He needs to get over it.


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1. You do not know Dak personally, or you would have said so.
2. Your comments are those of a fan without a working knowledge of the real negotiations or time table of this players contract.
3. Your comment about a more experienced player who is hungry indicates your bias has blinded you to the qualities Dak possesses. Especially since Darren Woodson illustrated the work ethic of Dak in a comment. One that most, if not all of the fans here would respect more than a poster in all likelihood,
4. His contract is not undermining McCarthy in any way. Up until yesterday the facility was closed, so it's not like the team was seated in a meeting room waiting for the QB who didn't show up.
5. You ignore facts about this team and it's failure due to players and coaching which have a large hand in this scenario. You blame it on Dak. I could make a few suggestions of books on the subject of professional American football which might enlighten you about team and scheme.
6. If you have arrived at your end of this drama, does that mean we (the people posting here) can expect you not to start one more thread about Dak, or respond to any thread about him? I cannot speak for everyone on this site, but I'd say if we started a poll - allowed by the ownership - a significant number of people would be hoping this would come true.

The person who needs to get over this is you. I understand we all have been cooped up with the virus that shall be unnamed. But truthfully, your version of cabin fever is borderline bat shate crazy.

I have suggested this before. Get a hobby.
 

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If the other 52 players, or a significant part of that team cannot carry their end of the load, and the team is 8-8, blaming the player in question seems a bit sophomoric.
I am in not blaming Dak for the team going 8-8. You should read my other posts before assuming what I am saying.

At the same time I also have no desire to pay a quarterback $30+ million dollars per year for 4-5 years who led an 8-8 team last season and one who only has one playoff win in four years.

If he wants to play for $25 per year, I could see that. If he wants to play on the franchise tag for $31 million this season, that is fine too. If he leads the team to the Championship game or higher, then I hope he gets an even bigger contract next year than he wants right now.

It's all about results. Romo did not get them. Dak has not gotten them so far. I hope the first quarterback who does for the Cowboys gets paid quite well. Until then ..
 
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