I'm 53- almost 54 years old. I have been a fan of the Cowboys since the early 70's- when I was old enough to know about them.
I've seen the likes of Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Namath, Pat Haden, Danny White, Joe Montana, Brian Sipe, Dan Pastorini, Craig Morton, John Elway, Joe Theismann, Billy Kilmer, Ron Jaworski, Doug Williams, Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, and others like Brett Favre on their best and worst days.
It's not that Dak can't learn. He's a great athlete.
But I don't see in him the instincts of any of the quarterbacks I just mentioned in regards to leadership skills and making a team better.
I'm just curious if it's the older generation that sees what I see?
One thing Dak does better is that he doesn't throw many interceptions, but I am not sure if that comes from the fact that he strictly follows the route tree or is just more aware.
But he doesn't seem to have "it" when it comes to leadership.
But is it the older guys who see what I see?
Just curious.
the offense quit? I wasn't aware, given we were #1 offense in the league...Where was this mythical leadership last season? You know, when the team quit.
you watch first take...you lost me right there....First Take is national enquirer of sports.....that's about it...So, was just watching First Take. Interesting stat that I didn't realize, last year. Dak at QB didn't lead one game winning drive last year. That can't be right yeah?
I didn't say it was his best quality, I said it MAY be his greatest strength. None of us have first hand knowledge of his leadership, we can only take someone else's opinions, if we're being honest. There is a ton of high praise from players/coaches and insiders and I have zero reason to dispute their first hand knowledge of his abilities. I'd be pulling crap out of my butt (like most of his haters are doing now) if I tried.Nope...we're good. I wanted YOUR opinion. YEs I know you want to go read someone else's. You said his leadership was his best quality, but want to me to go read someone else's opinion about it.
It's okay...no issue...but I didn't get YOUR opinion other than somone ELSE's opinion.
Right lmaoI just can’t take anyone seriously who questions Dak’s leadership. His leadership may be his greatest strength.
My response had absolutley nothing to do with Dak's performance in that one game.Have you played a team sport? If so, you'd recognize that playing hurt week 16 is nothing to scoff at. That is putting your body on the line, on a contract year. Did it get the job done? No. But this "mythical" leadership is just a ridiculous response.
Counting the number of yards doesn't prove that, no.I like Jon Kitna actually. Hoped we would keep him. That may have been the 1 bad move MM made. Wouldn't be shocked if he gets brought back later. Dak thru for almost 5k yards in 2019. That's not NFL LEVEL? My lord, all the guy did was run the offense and do what they asked. Part of the problem was Garrett handcuffed him too often. He would have thrown for 5500 yards in 2019 had he been allowed to be Dak. Plus a playoff berth. The down side would have been we would still have Garrett.
"Just paying the guy" puts you in salary cap hades. Check out the Rams who "just paid him". Might want to rethink that one.I just turned 50 and I think people focus too much on one aspect of QB play while ignoring all the little things that he brings to the table.
Fans get way too caught up in the salary CAP as well. Just pay the guy and move forward.
Well I wondered if they all just wanted JG gone lol so quit as a team or part of the team.
But if they didnt then yeah daks leader ship couldnt get the team going.
And I will say here that with JG as HC, and that staff, it makes it hard to accurately evaluate any of the
dallas players.
I am all for dak playing one year on the tag to see what he can do under MM.
Albeit one sided.Everyone you just mentioned has been chiming in regularly, yet the Cowboys still haven't been to the Super Bowl since 1995.
With that kind of expertise, you would think they could have righted the ship a long time ago if their opinions were the science of football.
But, since they haven't helped, and the Cowboys franchise continues to spin wildly down a tube, I'll trust my judgement as much as any of theirs.
Sometimes a view from the cheap seats gives a more accurate perspective.
"Just paying the guy" puts you in salary cap hades. Check out the Rams who "just paid him". Might want to rethink that one.
u are right, but that was the only way to get a new HC.That's possible but if true you still have to question the attitude and leadership for allowing it to happen. Especially while the post season is only one win away.
I personally remember teams quitting on lost cause season but never while in the position to win the division and advance to the playoffs.
the offense quit? I wasn't aware, given we were #1 offense in the league...
the team quit on the coaches....come on dude, you are strrrreeetttccchhhiiinnnggg way too far
I'm 53- almost 54 years old. I have been a fan of the Cowboys since the early 70's- when I was old enough to know about them.
I've seen the likes of Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Namath, Pat Haden, Danny White, Joe Montana, Brian Sipe, Dan Pastorini, Craig Morton, John Elway, Joe Theismann, Billy Kilmer, Ron Jaworski, Doug Williams, Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, and others like Brett Favre on their best and worst days.
It's not that Dak can't learn. He's a great athlete.
But I don't see in him the instincts of any of the quarterbacks I just mentioned in regards to leadership skills and making a team better.
I'm just curious if it's the older generation that sees what I see?
One thing Dak does better is that he doesn't throw many interceptions, but I am not sure if that comes from the fact that he strictly follows the route tree or is just more aware.
But he doesn't seem to have "it" when it comes to leadership.
But is it the older guys who see what I see?
Just curious.
yes I could agree, in some areas he has, but in other areas it seems like he went backwards.Could you agree that Dak has improved the last 3 years? I think he could improve even more under MM and a second year of Kellen Moore. Theres a reason why JimmyG, Kirk Cousins, and Matt Stafford got paid.
Thats fair. If I were Dak, I'd bet on myself and play on the tag, I bet its what his agent has suggested is a favorable option to maximize earnings.The more he waits, the more chances the price goes higher if/when Watson or Mahomes get extensions. Thats the main concern in reaching a long-term contract ASAP. I don't see much urgency on Dak's camp. He's gonna have the best weapons he's had so far in his career, hes gonna put gaudy numbers.Will be hard to attribute it all to the supporting cast if he becomes an MVP candidate. and if the wins come with it, hes gonna be paid soso much. Agree its a gamble, I'd rather gamble for the next 3 years with our aging O-Line who won't be playing at a high level forever, than to nurse a rookie and watch him develop while having the available weapons.yes I could agree, in some areas he has, but in other areas it seems like he went backwards.
and yes I think dak and all the players should be better under MM and his new staff.
But here is the deal , he may improve , he may not, and how much will he improve in all areas?
That means he is still sort of questionable, so just based on that signing him to a big contract is a big
gamble.
That is why I would rather he play on the tag , see what happens and go from there.