Twitter: Jamaal Adams being rumored to the Cowboys yet again

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So, starting from scratch with new players in key positions every year is what you think gives a team its best chance? That makes no sense. It's not even possible to do that. You can't sign a fresh batch of high quality players to one year contracts every year. You have to make commitments and build on them and try to contend every year. Your way does not allow for contending every year.


never said you start each year with new players at key positions, but you do lose key pieces every year. so you're searching every year to fill voids, you might as well add the best you can when you can. its why they
went after Adams last season, and if the Jets was serious about trading him, they would've pulled the trigger even knowing that Prescott and Amari needed theirs, after Zeke and Lawerence got theirs.
Also, with the contracts you have to pay a good QB and good players in General, how long do you think you're keeping a contender together. Not everyone can do it like New England did it with Brady who always took less for the team.
 
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I agree it’s about innovation. But you need the same guys in the pits they need to learn each other. To me it’s about continuity. But change is also important. Not personnel game theories


lol.. We've had plenty of continuity to no avail...lol
 

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never said you start each year with new players at key positions, but you do lose key pieces every year. so you're searching every year to fill voids, you might as well add the best you can when you can. its why they
went after Adams last season, and if the Jets was serious about trading him, they would've pulled the trigger even knowing that Prescott and Amari needed theirs, after Zeke and Lawerence got theirs.
And I never said anything about not replacing key pieces that are lost, so I don't really get your comment about only playing for year to year. Obviously to build something capable of contending every season would require either retaining or replacing key pieces, and that's what I was talking about. Building something that will last does not necessitate failure in the present, it means building something that can compete both now and in the future.

Maybe you were saying just go all in every year, but that's not reality because when you go all in one year those contracts you take on don't just go away at the end of the year. That's the point with Adams - it isn't just about going all in this year because he will require a long term, top of the market contract to keep him, and he very well won't play without it. So, if you did sign him, it would be to contend both now and for years to come. You can't just walk away and do something different the next year.
 

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And I never said anything about not replacing key pieces that are lost, so I don't really get your comment about only playing for year to year. Obviously to build something capable of contending every season would require either retaining or replacing key pieces, and that's what I was talking about. Building something that will last does not necessitate failure in the present, it means building something that can compete both now and in the future.

Maybe you were saying just go all in every year, but that's not reality because when you go all in one year those contracts you take on don't just go away at the end of the year. That's the point with Adams - it isn't just about going all in this year because he will require a long term, top of the market contract to keep him, and he very well won't play without it. So, if you did sign him, it would be to contend both now and for years to come. You can't just walk away and do something different the next year.

it is what I mean, when your team is close you go for it. you don't know what the future holds. They can afford Adams. I know they don't go away , but key players do in most years. Again, they've been building for years to no avail.
 

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it is what I mean, when your team is close you go for it. you don't know what the future holds. They can afford Adams. I know they don't go away , but key players do in most years. Again, they've been building for years to no avail.
You actually do know what the future holds if you use up every inch of cap space and have no ability to improve your team or even retain players whose contracts are up. In that case the future holds a long long time of not being about to contend.

But that's not the same as saying a team shouldn't sign key free agents that can help them win in the present. They can, and should. But that doesn't mean it can't be done is a smart and reasonable way that works within the confines of the salary cap and doesn't shoot the team in the foot for years to come.
 

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You actually do know what the future holds if you use up every inch of cap space and have no ability to improve your team or even retain players whose contracts are up. In that case the future holds a long long time of not being about to contend.

But that's not the same as saying a team shouldn't sign key free agents that can help them win in the present. They can, and should. But that doesn't mean it can't be done is a smart and reasonable way that works within the confines of the salary cap and doesn't shoot the team in the foot for years to come.


you don't know what the future holds. Salary cap space means nothing if you're not using it to upgrade. How has it worked out? we've been talking about this contending team for years. meanwhile teams continue to spend the money and advance. The Broncos, Rams got there, Kansas City, Philly all those teams have spent money and trades.
 

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you don't know what the future holds. Salary cap space means nothing if you're not using it to upgrade. How has it worked out? we've been talking about this contending team for years. meanwhile teams continue to spend the money and advance. The Broncos, Rams got there, Kansas City, Philly all those teams have spent money and trades.
Do you not understand that if you tie up all the cap space in long term top of the market contracts there is no cap space to use?

That's the salary cap hell it took the Cowboys over a decade to come out of, and it makes no sense to dig right back into hell.

That's why teams have a mix of young players on rookie contracts, veterans on high prices long term contracts, and a lot of people in between on low priced, or moderate, or one year contracts. It takes mixing those things up to accomplish the goal of having a chance to win without killing those same chances for years. A team will only shoot itself in the foot if they ignore the cap.
 

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lol.. We've had plenty of continuity to no avail...lol
Do you think Jason Garrett. Use the continuity through its best. LOLAll the talent in the world if is it used correctly. It’s nullified. So
 

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Do you not understand that if you tie up all the cap space in long term top of the market contracts there is no cap space to use?

That's the salary cap hell it took the Cowboys over a decade to come out of, and it makes no sense to dig right back into hell.

That's why teams have a mix of young players on rookie contracts, veterans on high prices long term contracts, and a lot of people in between on low priced, or moderate, or one year contracts. It takes mixing those things up to accomplish the goal of having a chance to win without killing those same chances for years. A team will only shoot itself in the foot if they ignore the cap.


what part do you not understand that they wanted Adams just last year and was willing to give up a 1st? these teams can sign who they want. again the patriots have some of least cap space and they win. Chiefs, Patriots,Steelers,Saints, Ravens, niners all on the top 10 with the least cap space.
 

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Do you think Jason Garrett. Use the continuity through its best. LOLAll the talent in the world if is it used correctly. It’s nullified. So

the talent was used fine, the talent didn't always show up. Again its been 25 years. Not just JG era, it failed under Parcells too.
 

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the talent was used fine, the talent didn't always show up. Again its been 25 years. Not just JG era, it failed under Parcells too.
Come on you just lost all integrity. The talent was used fine LMAO
 

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You're dead wrong. Adams is on his way to becoming a superstar at the strong safety position.
On his way. It’s not close to saying three rings five rings. That’s what Haley has five rings. Don’t dare to compare the two
 

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what part do you not understand that they wanted Adams just last year and was willing to give up a 1st? these teams can sign who they want. again the patriots have some of least cap space and they win. Chiefs, Patriots,Steelers,Saints, Ravens, niners all on the top 10 with the least cap space.
What part of this is a new year and they have dished out a lot of money and high dollar contracts since then do you not understand? Do you really not understand things have changed in a year?

And no, teams can't just sign who they want without it causing problems. Every team manages the cap, including those you mentioned.

And, of course, a lot depends on how that cap is tied up. If a lot is in short term contracts, then the long term effect is minimal. If a lot is tied up in long term contracts it's an ongoing problem.

In short, it's not as simple as you want to make it. There are a lot of factors to be considered, and your only criteria is "I want him". NFL teams have more to pay attention to than that.

By the way, I find it funny that while you mentioned 6 teams in the top 10 in least cap space, you failed to mention that the Cowboys are also in that top 10 - #5 in fact.
 

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the talent was used fine, the talent didn't always show up. Again its been 25 years. Not just JG era, it failed under Parcells too.
Under Parcells you can blame Tony alone. Stop it you’re embarrassing yourself. And I don’t usually get rude but now you’re talking ridiculous
 

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Come on you just lost all integrity. The talent was used fine LMAO

that's your opinion, so you think the players played to their potential. when they're the ones on the field playing fumbling, getting beat, throwing Ints, dropping passes. missing tackles? where's your integrity
 

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On his way. It’s not close to saying three rings five rings. That’s what Haley has five rings. Don’t dare to compare the two
Please understand, I'm not saying he's better than Haley. He'd be a major contributor on the defense and would make an impact similar to what Haley provided. AGAIN, not better than Haley!
 

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What part of this is a new year and they have dished out a lot of money and high dollar contracts since then do you not understand? Do you really not understand things have changed in a year?

And no, teams can't just sign who they want without it causing problems. Every team manages the cap, including those you mentioned.

And, of course, a lot depends on how that cap is tied up. If a lot is in short term contracts, then the long term effect is minimal. If a lot is tied up in long term contracts it's an ongoing problem.

In short, it's not as simple as you want to make it. There are a lot of factors to be considered, and your only criteria is "I want him". NFL teams have more to pay attention to than that.

By the way, I find it funny that while you mentioned 6 teams in the top 10 in least cap space, you failed to mention that the Cowboys are also in that top 10 - #5 in fact.

again, they can sign who they want, teams win with no cap space. cowboys being there is irrelevant, the point is teams win with little cap space.
 

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Under Parcells you can blame Tony alone. Stop it you’re embarrassing yourself. And I don’t usually get rude but now you’re talking ridiculous

no you're talking stupid, It wasn't only Tony in Parcell's era.
 
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