Opinion: Dalton chose Dallas because he was told he had a shot to win the job

[CowboyRoy]

He had a shot to win the job if Dak didn't show up.

This got me thinking about that actual scenario. And you have to applaud the FO for getting Dalton to sign by telling him that. Love the sell job. And great insurance job securing Dalton and leverage in the Dak negotiations.

Couple questions:

1. How many games do you think we could win if Dalton was our QB the entire year?

2. How much MORE is Dak better than Dalton, if at all, and how many more wins is Dak better than Dalton?

 

[darthseinfeld]

He had a shot to win the job if Dak didn't show up.

This got me thinking about that actual scenario. And you have to applaud the FO for getting Dalton to sign by telling him that. Love the sell job. And great insurance job securing Dalton and leverage in the Dak negotiations.

Couple questions:

1. How many games do you think we could win if Dalton was our QB the entire year?

2. How much MORE is Dak better than Dalton, if at all, and how many more wins is Dak better than Dalton?

Dalton is a hail mary as a 16 game starter. He did have one very good year in 2015 when they had him play more conservative. If you are counting on him for 16, you throw that 2015 tape on and go from their

 

[BlueNSilver88]

I don't know how many games or what or whatever but I do know I atleast feel confident in Dalton

 

[Whyjerry]

He had a shot to win the job if Dak didn't show up.

This got me thinking about that actual scenario. And you have to applaud the FO for getting Dalton to sign by telling him that. Love the sell job. And great insurance job securing Dalton and leverage in the Dak negotiations.

Couple questions:

1. How many games do you think we could win if Dalton was our QB the entire year?

2. How much MORE is Dak better than Dalton, if at all, and how many more wins is Dak better than Dalton?

Good post I think Dak is 1 to 2 wins better than Dalton. Dalton could be 9 to 10 wins. Dak gets you 10 to 12 wins. I could probably show this empirically but am too lazy to do so. Hence, this is my gut feeling.

 

[fivetwos]

....or because he lives there anyway and wanted to be near home with the uncertainty of the season, etc.

 

[Blackrain]

He had a shot to win the job if Dak didn't show up.

This got me thinking about that actual scenario. And you have to applaud the FO for getting Dalton to sign by telling him that. Love the sell job. And great insurance job securing Dalton and leverage in the Dak negotiations.

Couple questions:

1. How many games do you think we could win if Dalton was our QB the entire year?

2. How much MORE is Dak better than Dalton, if at all, and how many more wins is Dak better than Dalton?

Heres my question can you make the team better with Dalton at 3 mil or Dak at 36 mil .

Dak is better and wins more games at 650 k but at 36 mil the amount of talent the team has is compromised .

Dalton at 3mil allows you to stack the defense with more talent and could ultimately win more games . Dalton and 3 more impact players on defense could win more games than Dak and our current roster

The addition of Dalton was a great move insuring we will be competitive this year no matter what happens

 

[fivetwos]

Good post I think Dak is 1 to 2 wins better than Dalton. Dalton could be 9 to 10 wins. Dak gets you 10 to 12 wins. I could probably show this empirically but am too lazy to do so. Hence, this is my gut feeling.

Prescott is better than Dalton and I'm not sure its close.

However how is that measured? Stats? Not always.

It's about winning games, taking the team on your back and pulling out a win.

Prescott certain let us down quite a bit last year in that regard.

 

[mcmvp]

He had a shot to win the job if Dak didn't show up.

This got me thinking about that actual scenario. And you have to applaud the FO for getting Dalton to sign by telling him that. Love the sell job. And great insurance job securing Dalton and leverage in the Dak negotiations.

Couple questions:

1. How many games do you think we could win if Dalton was our QB the entire year?

2. How much MORE is Dak better than Dalton, if at all, and how many more wins is Dak better than Dalton?

I see them as being fairly close to even given the same surrounding talent. I'd give the edge to Dak if he uses his legs more.

You can't just look at their numbers the last few years as they were on much different teams. To ignore that would be intellectually dishonest at best, or just plain 'football dumb' at worst.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I've never seen people so ready to get rid of a starting QB. Sheesh.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He had a shot to win the job if Dak didn't show up.

This got me thinking about that actual scenario. And you have to applaud the FO for getting Dalton to sign by telling him that. Love the sell job. And great insurance job securing Dalton and leverage in the Dak negotiations.

Couple questions:

1. How many games do you think we could win if Dalton was our QB the entire year?

2. How much MORE is Dak better than Dalton, if at all, and how many more wins is Dak better than Dalton?

OMG, not another bash Dak thread disguised..

Dalton didn't have many choices. he got released late after the draft. most teams were set at QB, he lived in texas. yes, contract situation with Dak helped him choose dallas. take a step back and see where things go. Dak is at least 2-3 games better than Dalton. and its not about regular season, its about post season. Dalton, under pressure, when it counts is something like 0-10, too lazy to pull out the games and do the research, except its obvious in the playoffs he choked and choked really bad. he is not very good at come back wins. he needs to be tethered and managed so he doesn't lose you games, as he can't win you games.

 

[Cowboys22]

I don’t get the premise here. Did it really have to be pointed out to Dalton, or anybody for that matter, that he could be the starter if Dak never signed? Did they really have to convince him he would get a fair shot to beat out Rush and DiNucci?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't know how many games or what or whatever but I do know I atleast feel confident in Dalton

I like Dalton as a QB. If you give the guy time in the pocket he can definitely get the job done. Great signing. And if we had to go with him for a stretch I would actually be intrigued to see what he could do here and confident he could win games. Even against some good opponents.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Good post I think Dak is 1 to 2 wins better than Dalton. Dalton could be 9 to 10 wins. Dak gets you 10 to 12 wins. I could probably show this empirically but am too lazy to do so. Hence, this is my gut feeling.

I think that is about where I am on it. 10 wins with Dalton on a good year with this team no doubt. I see Dak as 2 or 3 games better, but also a guy that can win it all and get you deeper in the playoffs.

Dalton lacks the "it" factor and the leadership levels that Dak has. Doesn't have the clutch gene that Dak does. lacks the play making abilities.

 

[GenoT]

He had a shot to win the job if Dak didn't show up.

This got me thinking about that actual scenario. And you have to applaud the FO for getting Dalton to sign by telling him that. Love the sell job. And great insurance job securing Dalton and leverage in the Dak negotiations.

Couple questions:

1. How many games do you think we could win if Dalton was our QB the entire year?

2. How much MORE is Dak better than Dalton, if at all, and how many more wins is Dak better than Dalton?

“Dalton chose Dallas because he was told he had a shot to win the job if Dak didn’t show up.”

Do you have a link/source for this?

 

[America's Cowboy]

Prescott is better than Dalton and I'm not sure its close.

However how is that measured? Stats? Not always.

It's about winning games, taking the team on your back and pulling out a win.

Prescott certain let us down quite a bit last year in that regard.

Hard to win games when your receivers led the league in drops (51). Your kicker missed the most FGs (10) (most were between the 30s - 40s range). Your special teams was absolutely the worst. Plus, your Defense was 3rd worst in missed tackles. Then add in Garrett and his bunch of misfits.

Well, I guess it's easier just to blame Dak.

 

[America's Cowboy]

“Dalton chose Dallas because he was told he had a shot to win the job if Dak didn’t show up.”

Do you have a link/source for this?

Exactly!

Where's the proof the Cowboys front office said or thought this way?

 

[cowboyblue22]

its hard to believe this with what the jones have been saying publicly that dak is their starting qb for the present and the future

 

[Whyjerry]

I think that is about where I am on it. 10 wins with Dalton on a good year with this team no doubt. I see Dak as 2 or 3 games better, but also a guy that can win it all and get you deeper in the playoffs.

Dalton lacks the "it" factor and the leadership levels that Dak has. Doesn't have the clutch gene that Dak does. lacks the play making abilities.

I agree. This should be a good team. With Dalton I think you get a WC. Dak has a chance to take this team deep into the playoffs. Dak is better. Only ones that don’t see that are the Dak haters.

 

[USArmyVet]

Hard to win games when your receivers led the league in drops (51). Your kicker missed the most FGs (10) (most were between the 30s - 40s range). Your special teams was absolutely the worst. Plus, your Defense was 3rd worst in missed tackles. Then add in Garrett and his bunch of misfits.

Well, I guess it's easier just to blame Dak.

....yet you just placed blame on everyone else so how is that any better?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Heres my question can you make the team better with Dalton at 3 mil or Dak at 36 mil .

Dak is better and wins more games at 650 k but at 36 mil the amount of talent the team has is compromised .

Dalton at 3mil allows you to stack the defense with more talent and could ultimately win more games . Dalton and 3 more impact players on defense could win more games than Dak and our current roster

The addition of Dalton was a great move insuring we will be competitive this year no matter what happens

I don't think its apples to apples. Dak gives you that ability to go all the way where Dalton really doesn't. Not saying it could never happen. And THAT is what you are paying for with Dak over Dalton.

But if Dalton was starting, he wouldnt be taking 3 million or 6 million. You may get that for one year if you dumped Dak. But no veteran starting QB is going to play for that. Just take a look at what happened with Tannehil.

If Dalton killed it then he would want more money or would sign for bigger money elsewhere.

And you cant have a strategy of going around signing cheap veterans every year.

And lets be honest here...….……….whomever didn't like Dak at 1 million a year for 4 years is being disingenuous panning for Dalton. If Dak wasn't good enough then its laughable to pretend Dalton is.

That would be agenda trolling.