Opinion: Dalton chose Dallas because he was told he had a shot to win the job

[CowboyRoy]

I think we all know the answer to that.

Dak has shown to be useless without a minimum 2 HOFers in a 3 yard radius at all times.

Like Aikman? Actually Aikman needed like 5 HOFers in a 5 yard radius.

 

[cern]

You mean a second string NFL quarterback is operating under the assumption that if the starter is unavailable for whatever reason, he might be asked to actually play football?

Where did you come across the revelation?

even Sheldon cooper could have identified that post as sarcasm.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Like Aikman? Actually Aikman needed like 5 HOFers in a 5 yard radius.

I mean I’m not arguing... the difference being that Aikman at least delivered with all of those guys around him. But yes, when free agency started whittling the team down Aikman didn’t do much with them.

 

[OmerV]

He had a shot to win the job if Dak didn't show up.

This got me thinking about that actual scenario. And you have to applaud the FO for getting Dalton to sign by telling him that. Love the sell job. And great insurance job securing Dalton and leverage in the Dak negotiations.

Couple questions:

1. How many games do you think we could win if Dalton was our QB the entire year?

2. How much MORE is Dak better than Dalton, if at all, and how many more wins is Dak better than Dalton?

There doesn't really seem to be much to read into Dallas telling Dalton this. After all, that's just how it works - the role of the backup is to play when the starter isn't available. That wouldn't be a revelation to Dalton.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Dalton has never been close to Dak's play last year.

2017 & 2018 Dak, Dalton has been close:

 

[xwalker]

Can’t remember when Dak let the team down. 3 games ruined the season. Jets, Bills and Bears. Defense ruined the season. They sucked in those games.

The defense gave up:
12 against NO and lost
13 against NE and lost
17 against Phi and lost

I would put all of those games on the offense.

I don't necessarily disagree with your assertion though. There were several games where the D simply didn't show up. Its just really easy to pick apart last season and find things to blame. You could make a case for coaching, bad defense, special teams, a few bad games from Dak, receivers dropping balls, fat Zeke, etc. and be right. Last season was weird. Just fixing one problem out of many could have turned it into a 10 or 11 win season.

Yes, the defense was good enough in those 3 games.

The offense had a season low in rushing yards vs the Saints and a season high in fumble-turnovers with 1 each for Witten and Zeke.

The New England game was low scoring due to terrible cold raining conditions. A blocked punt gave the Pats the ball with 12 yards to go for a TD. There was also a missed FG. That's a 10 point swing due to Special Teams.

Dak injured his shoulder the week prior to the Eagles game. He really should not have played that game. If Dalton was the backup I'm certain he would have started that game.

The Jets game was with UDFA Brandon Knight at RT and "not good enough to keep in 2020" Cam Fleming at LT. There was a missed field goal in a game that ended 24-22 Jets-Cowboys.

The Bills and Bears were top 5 defenses. They didn't lose when their offenses scored as many points as they did against the Cowboys.

The Saints game irritated me as much as any game. It was obvious Garrett played scared due to being in New Orleans. In the previous games it was obvious that Kellen Moore had brought fresh concepts to the offense but vs New Orleans it was obviously back on the old Garrett style of staying conservative even when it obviously was not working.


It was worth a wasted season to be rid of Garrett; however, it was indeed a wasted season due to coaching. The Cowboys had way more than 8-8 talent.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

let me ask you. Where would Dak be signed for what he is asking for if Cowboys pulled the franchise tag?

now or before the FA? if we never put the franchise tag on him, probably Indy, NE, SD, Miami, Tenn, Chicago, Commanders, Carolina, Raiders, all of those teams would have had interest in Dak. now, after the draft, after FA is pretty much done, the opportunities will be much smaller obviously.....he was rated as the top FA before FA began.....

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[CowboysFaninHouston]

Would it be closer if Dak had started his career in Cincy and Dalton started his in Dallas?

Would Dak even still be in the league?

cinci would have had a few more playoff wins....gauranteed

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So I ask again...……………..….you are suggesting the Chiefs let Mahomes walk in a year or two when he demands more than 13%?

that's what he is saying....you let the best young QB in the league, generational talent walk, because of the mytical 13% and then you go drafting QB after QB to hit on one that can help you win a superbowl in the first 4 or 5 years of his rookie contract, because there is no other way of winning a superbowl if anyone is above 13%

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

10 games with Dalton.

and a first round playoff loss scoring only 10 points LOL...yep...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yes, the defense was good enough in those 3 games.

The offense had a season low in rushing yards vs the Saints and a season high in fumble-turnovers with 1 each for Witten and Zeke.

The New England game was low scoring due to terrible cold raining conditions. A blocked punt gave the Pats the ball with 12 yards to go for a TD. There was also a missed FG. That's a 10 point swing due to Special Teams.

Dak injured his shoulder the week prior to the Eagles game. He really should not have played that game. If Dalton was the backup I'm certain he would have started that game.

The Jets game was with UDFA Brandon Knight at RT and "not good enough to keep in 2020" Cam Fleming at LT. There was a missed field goal in a game that ended 24-22 Jets-Cowboys.

The Bills and Bears were top 5 defenses. They didn't lose when their offenses scored as many points as they did against the Cowboys.

The Saints game irritated me as much as any game. It was obvious Garrett played scared due to being in New Orleans. In the previous games it was obvious that Kellen Moore had brought fresh concepts to the offense but vs New Orleans it was obviously back on the old Garrett style of staying conservative even when it obviously was not working.


It was worth a wasted season to be rid of Garrett; however, it was indeed a wasted season due to coaching. The Cowboys had way more than 8-8 talent.

what gets missed on many, given they focus on their anger and their agenda....

yep, zeke fumbling on the 4th down was Dak's fault. cooper fumbling on a catch was Dak's fault. Witten fumbling on a catch and run was Dak's fault. Cooper pass interference was Dak's fault....in a 12 point game, plays like that matter. opportunities are few in between. coaching screw ups are Dak's fault...you cash in when those opportunities come......they didn't.

same in NE, they screwed up on defense and gave their offense the ball in our end of the field and let them score...in a close game like that making mistakes cost you and it did. but the defensive folly was Dak's fault....coaching was horrible, horrible, horrible....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I mean I’m not arguing... the difference being that Aikman at least delivered with all of those guys around him. But yes, when free agency started whittling the team down Aikman didn’t do much with them.

so you think the end of the book on Dak is written and final and he won't deliver? that's what you are saying....Aikman had Johnson as the head coach....give me someone like Johnson...not garrett, lets see where things are...

we saw aikman struggle after Johnson......

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Can’t remember when Dak let the team down. 3 games ruined the season. Jets, Bills and Bears. Defense ruined the season. They sucked in those games.

ten missed field goals inside the 40.....10...….make a few of those, half of those and we could have one at least one, if not two....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Garapolo's contract I believe was 10% of the teams cap.

He also plays on a team that is young and doesn't have many veterans taking a ton of space.

not when he signed it.....as you are aware, the cap grows...

 

[Proof]

You mean a second string NFL quarterback is operating under the assumption that if the starter is unavailable for whatever reason, he might be asked to actually play football?

Where did you come across the revelation?

Lol. Basically. Reads like an onion headline

 

[OmerV]

How many teams have a chance of thier starting QB holding out this year?

Thats the part you failed to pick up on. And at the time, Rush was still here and they had just reupped his contract for 2 million per year. So Dalton would have been competing for the #2 QB spot.

ANOTHER part you failed to pick up on. Just sayin.

Yes, but it's not as if Dalton didn't know that the contract situation wasn't settled with Dak, or that if the contract situation didn't get settled the backup QB would be next in line.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Where did he say this or where does it say this? I haven’t seen it anywhere. Let me know because I’d enjoying reading it myself

 

[CowboyRoy]

that's what he is saying....you let the best young QB in the league, generational talent walk, because of the mytical 13% and then you go drafting QB after QB to hit on one that can help you win a superbowl in the first 4 or 5 years of his rookie contract, because there is no other way of winning a superbowl if anyone is above 13%

That is EXACTLY what he is saying. That's why he keeps avoiding answering the question. Because he either has to do one of two things:

1. Suggest cutting the best QB in the NFL
2. Admit that his 13% theory is garbage

Its called the dunce corner. Cant get out of it.

 

[xwalker]

not when he signed it.....as you are aware, the cap grows...

@CATCH17

Percent of Cap is compared based on the year signed.

When he signed the contract it was 15.5% of the salary cap.

 

[cern]

How many teams have a chance of thier starting QB holding out this year?

Thats the part you failed to pick up on. And at the time, Rush was still here and they had just reupped his contract for 2 million per year. So Dalton would have been competing for the #2 QB spot.

ANOTHER part you failed to pick up on. Just sayin.

one cannot discount the possibility of injury.