10 year contract extension for Mahomes worth $500 million

[dogunwo]

In 10 years Mahomes will be gone and the Chiefs will bring in fans regardless. Fans are loyal to teams, not players.

Players are getting paid plenty, no one should feel sorry for them. Its the owners and the teams that have built the product and taken the risks in business. All the players do is stay in shape, half of them, and show up for the games. Its a part time job for Gods sake.

Players take all the physical risks. The owners take none. People come to see the players play, not owner's own. The owner's are dependent on the players. Sure the players currently are paid by the owners. If all of the owners were to quit today, the players could form a new league with new owners and people would pay to see them. If the players were to quit, the owners have nothing.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It was clear, but its strawman. Not one single poster is claiming that Dak is equal to or greater than Mahomes, so it made your statement useless.

Exactly. It wasn't that his post was so genius I didn't understand it. I just don't get the purpose of going straw man when no one has. Just pulled it out of thin air for no reason.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Which is why I think you see the cap go up significantly for a good 2 or 3 years.

I posted this incorrectly, my apologies.

I should have said, "Which is why I think you see the cap stay flat for a good 2 or 3 years", not go up. Sorry about that.

 

[JReed1000]

You know I really don’t care about his numbers. Get your money. I’m more pissed that teams that have a decent QB don’t play around with their starting QB during negotiations. This was done all within week. We are going on 2 dam years with a Dak. Houston will sign Watson in a week of negotiations. I get tired of the freak show. Dallas has paid everyone but Dak....it makes no sense. Dak has never been greedy and the dude can ball. I sit here wishing he beats Mahomes in the Super Bowl and has Jerry over a barrel. It ridiculous.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Players take all the physical risks. The owners take none. People come to see the players play, not owner's own. The owner's are dependent on the players. Sure the players currently are paid by the owners. If all of the owners were to quit today, the players could form a new league with new owners and people would pay to see them. If the players were to quit, the owners have nothing.

Physical risk? Cmon give me a break. People come to see the Cowboys play the Niners.

If the players quit, then they get new players.

Owners created the sport, created the league, and have invested in the entire system and make it all work.

All the players have to do is stay in shape and show up and play for 7 months out of the year.

 

[dogunwo]

If the players quit, then they get new players.

Get new players from where? Didn't the XFL and NFL Europe and most college teams ratings show you that people want to see the best play? The NFL would fold quickly if people knew the best players were in a different league.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You know I really don’t care about his numbers. Get your money. I’m more pissed that teams that have a decent QB don’t play around with their starting QB during negotiations. This was done all within week. We are going on 2 dam years with a Dak. Houston will sign Watson in a week of negotiations. I get tired of the freak show. Dallas has paid everyone but Dak....it makes no sense. Dak has never been greedy and the dude can ball. I sit here wishing he beats Mahomes in the Super Bowl and has Jerry over a barrel. It ridiculous.

It is definitely clear that you don't understand. Dak is being the stubborn one. They have offered him 35 million per season for 5 years and Dak wants 4 years. Wont sign for 5. And here we have Mahomes signing for 10 years.

I bet you anything the Cowboys would sign Dak for 7 years, but he doesn't want it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Get new players from where? Didn't the XFL and NFL Europe and most college teams ratings show you that people want to see the best play? The NFL would fold quickly if people knew the best players were in a different league.

When was the last time the players quit? Do you even know? And what happened when they did?

Ill give you a hint...……….…...the term is called SCABS.

The players union has proven that it will eventually crumble as it did in the past. The least paid, young players that need money will eventually start jumping over the lines and playing. The rich ones may hold out longer.

 

[Diehardblues]

Players take all the physical risks. The owners take none. People come to see the players play, not owner's own. The owner's are dependent on the players. Sure the players currently are paid by the owners. If all of the owners were to quit today, the players could form a new league with new owners and people would pay to see them. If the players were to quit, the owners have nothing.

This has actually already been proven wrong several times with the USFL, WFL, XFL, etc.

The owners have created the greatest and most profitable professional sports league in the country with the NFL. The TV contracts, broadcasting rights, stadiums and sponsorships all are what drives the success of the league. The players are the stars but they are all interchangeable parts.

If these current players pulled out and begin their own league to compete against the NFL they would probably fail like the other leagues have.

 

[ClintDagger]

You know I really don’t care about his numbers. Get your money. I’m more pissed that teams that have a decent QB don’t play around with their starting QB during negotiations. This was done all within week. We are going on 2 dam years with a Dak. Houston will sign Watson in a week of negotiations. I get tired of the freak show. Dallas has paid everyone but Dak....it makes no sense. Dak has never been greedy and the dude can ball. I sit here wishing he beats Mahomes in the Super Bowl and has Jerry over a barrel. It ridiculous.

I think the Mahomes deal got done fast because it’s pretty team friendly. Listening to Schefter break it down a little bit ago, KC should be thrilled.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This has actually already been proven wrong several times with the USFL, WFL, XFL, etc.

The owners have created the greatest and most profitable professional sports league in the country with the NFL. The TV contracts, broadcasting rights, stadiums and sponsorships all are what drives the success of the league. The players are the stars but they are all interchangeable parts.

If these current players pulled out and begin their own league to compete against the NFL they would probably fail like the other leagues have.

I agree. The NFL will not be displaced by another league anytime soon. Players come and go but the League and the teams sustain.

 

[Diehardblues]

Get new players from where? Didn't the XFL and NFL Europe and most college teams ratings show you that people want to see the best play? The NFL would fold quickly if people knew the best players were in a different league.

They’d get new players from the draft and FA as usual.

The bigger issue for the competitive leagues is exposure. How will these other leagues compete against the NFL without TV contracts and sponsorships?

The leagues that have attempted and failed didn’t directly compete with the NFL during same time slots since the NFL already has those TV contracts locked up for several years. It would give the NFL time to go thru several drafts and recoup the talent.

Im not sure you’ve thought thru the business aspect.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think the Mahomes deal got done fast because it’s pretty team friendly. Listening to Schefter break it down a little bit ago, KC should be thrilled.

Again, I agree. Dak's deal from the Cowboys is actually a better deal IMO. We don't know what the up front guaranteed money looks like but it's got to be better then what we see in this deal, I would imagine and it's only 5 years. In 5 years, the numbers associated with the Mahomes deal will be minimal. Dak could see a lot more money in his deal, if he were to sign it. JMO.

 

[Vtwin]

It was clear, but its strawman. Not one single poster is claiming that Dak is equal to or greater than Mahomes, so it made your statement useless.

There are at least two posters here who do seem to believe that.

I just read a series of posts from one who provided 'evidence' in the form of 'advanced analytics' to show that Dak was better than Mahomes and Wilson.

The other has come right out and said multiple times that Mahomes is lucky, benefits from his WR's and is a heave and hope QB who won the SB by chucking up hail marys. He even says he would take Dak over the lucky Mahomes.

They do exist.

 

[Diehardblues]

I agree. The NFL will not be displaced by another league anytime soon. Players come and go but the League and the teams sustain.

Yep

Much like we saw with USFL and WFL several top names bolted but it wasn’t enough to sustain or compete with the NFL.

The NFL would recover quickly bringing new talent in and not all would bolt to new league. Plus fans want to watch their storied franchises compete. The owners have built and established for generations over a Century now long standing traditions and rivalries that extend beyond the individual players.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yep

Much like we saw with USFL and WFL several top names bolted but it wasn’t enough to sustain or compete with the NFL.

The NFL would recover quickly bringing new talent in and not all would bolt to new league. Plus fans want to watch their storied franchises compete. The owners have built and established for generations over a Century now long standing traditions and rivalries that extend beyond the individual players.

Long term TV contracts basically kill any chance to displace the NFL. So long as those relationships exist, no league will succeed in overtaking the NFL. That's just the truth of it.

 

[dogunwo]

This has actually already been proven wrong several times with the USFL, WFL, XFL, etc.

The owners have created the greatest and most profitable professional sports league in the country with the NFL. The TV contracts, broadcasting rights, stadiums and sponsorships all are what drives the success of the league. The players are the stars but they are all interchangeable parts.

If these current players pulled out and begin their own league to compete against the NFL they would probably fail like the other leagues have.

No, because the best players didn't play in those startup leagues, which is my point.

 

[Adreme]

Yes, but it could happen. Technically, only three years are guaranteed. The extension is 10 years, the remaining years on the contract are 2, so 10 and 2 is 12. The money is 477 with another 53 in incentives. Only 63 is fully guaranteed up front and the injury payout is 140. It's a 3 year deal, pay as you go. He didn't get a new contract, he got an extension so the deal is 12 years. You can argue all you want but that's what the deal appears to be.

The extension aka new money is 10 years 477 with up to 503 million PLUS his the 2 years left. While yes, they could opt out (and I suspect the opt out points are not exactly at great times for the team as in 2 years before the season in question similar to a few other deals) that makes Mahomes a free agent which they will never risk. Barring injury he is going to see every dime of that money.

 

[dogunwo]

They’d get new players from the draft and FA as usual.

The bigger issue for the competitive leagues is exposure. How will these other leagues compete against the NFL without TV contracts and sponsorships?

The leagues that have attempted and failed didn’t directly compete with the NFL during same time slots since the NFL already has those TV contracts locked up for several years. It would give the NFL time to go thru several drafts and recoup the talent.

Im not sure you’ve thought thru the business aspect.

The TV contracts have out clauses tied to actual playing of games and ratings.

 

[Adreme]

He can say anything he wants but the reality is that the Tag limits how much the team has to pay. The deal is cheaper if the team just continues to tag him and then gives him his 3 or 4 year deal later.

Yes for this year and next and then he is free to walk so unless you are only offering a 2 year deal why would he sign for less? If he can play on the tag for 2 years and then walk and sign for 43-44 million per why would he take a 4 year deal worth less than 38 or 39 million when that is what he will make on average?