Should Dallas start Dak or Dalton now?

[DFWJC]

You go with the qb that gives you the best shot at a playoff run. Not the one that gives you the best draft pick.

They are paying Dak way more than any other player on the team this year.
31.4 million!

He is starting.

The only way he is not is if he’s hurt or traded.

 

[fivetwos]

They will rescind the tag and let him walk away for nothing before they put him on the bench.

There is absolutely zero reason to not play Prescott, or take the official position of you hope to work out a long term deal with him after the season.

I'm at the front of the DiNucci bandwagon, and I like him as a player, but he is nowhere close to ready to play in the NFL, and wont be for a while.

 

[Captain-Crash]

so can we trade him now? sheesh, such drama over an average quarterback who started in a dream situation.

 

[fivetwos]

Speaking of draft picks, if someone happens to offer a first for Prescott, I think they need to cut losses and do it, but I doubt they will.

Jerry doesnt operate that way. Always reactionary, never ahead of things.

 

[OmerV]

Nice to know this. That’s what I expected but heard it was Dak reaching out.

The last offer was legit and he should have signed it. If the numbers are true. Was fair for Dak. Between goff and Wilson. Was goff guaranteed money and Wilson per year. 70 in the first 2 years with 50 up front. That’s a big check.

But what was the term - 4 or 5 years? Reports have been that was the holdup. If the guarantee was the same as Goff’s, but for 5 years while Goff’s was for a 4 year extension, that matters.

 

[fivetwos]

so can we trade him now? sheesh, such drama over an average quarterback who started in a dream situation.

Man you're not kidding. Screwing up being the QB for the Dallas Cowboys with top players all around him because his greedy agent wants to cash in again in a few years.

I dont know how much better he thinks it may get elsewhere when you dont HOFers blocking for you.

 

[DCCBFan]

Ok I know it sounds stupid lol, I will try to explain.
If they start Dak, and he has a good season, lets say to the champ game,and lose.
What do they get out of that? Dak will want even more money and short contract still, will they
then give him say 40 mil a year?
And if they do play dak, they wont be picking high, it will be mid round to low round, so no real chance
at drafting a top of the round qb.
They also will not know what Dalton might have done, or what they have in him or dinucci.

So to me it might be smarter to start Dalton and if he isnt able to play good and win games, try dinucci,
and see how he does. if they do poorly, dallas will have a top of the round draft pick in 21 , which could be
good enough to get a top qb prospect.
...
And I will say Dalton and Dinucci may not be able to handle the reins, but there is only one way to know for sure, and there is a reward of that top 5 pick they could shoot for if they are not good enough.

So the strategy is to bench the qb you think might get you to the championship game, in order to play qbs who will make you one of the worst teams in the league with a top 5 pick? Thats the strategy? Wow. I would remind you that the year we drafted Dak, we had a top 5 pick. And it still wasn't good enough to get either of the top two qbs.

I see no reason to think that Dak doesn't want to be here. He just thinks the current offer is below market. Which shouldn't be particularly controversial. The team thinks its offer is below market, too. After all, that's the only reason to apply the franchise tag -- you think your offer will be outbid in an open market. I suspect eventually the team will get to a market offer and both sides will reach an agreement. As we found out with Tank Lawrence, waiting won't save money but its not necessarily an impediment to a long term deal.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Pound for pound we have the worst qb situation in the league

How so?
We now have a highly motivated QB in Dak. He's got a lot riding on this upcoming season. If he has a poor year, he probably loses a lot money in a future contract. If he lights it up, an even bigger payday is coming.

Dalton is clearly one of the better back up QBs in the league.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Man you're not kidding. Screwing up being the QB for the Dallas Cowboys with top players all around him because his greedy agent wants to cash in again in a few years.

I dont know how much better he thinks it may get elsewhere when you dont HOFers blocking for you.

let him go to a crappie team, I've heard enough excuses from his supporters.

 

[DandyDon52]

Why waste $31M cap space ( we don't have BTW) if you were planning to start Dalton. Just rescind the tag, let Dak walk, and save the money but don't expect to have an ounce of credibility around the league (lol).

I dont think they can once he signs it, I could be wrong.
and if you meant before, no the jones boys wanted to sign dak on their terms.

 

[DandyDon52]

They are paying Dak way more than any other player on the team this year.
31.4 million!

He is starting.

The only way he is not is if he’s hurt or traded.

That is standard football mentality lol I am thinking outside the box, some can some cant.
And I am pretty sure that is what will happen, as jones boys cant think outside the box either.

 

[DandyDon52]

They will rescind the tag and let him walk away for nothing before they put him on the bench.

There is absolutely zero reason to not play Prescott, or take the official position of you hope to work out a long term deal with him after the season.

I'm at the front of the DiNucci bandwagon, and I like him as a player, but he is nowhere close to ready to play in the NFL, and wont be for a while.

I dont think they can rescind it now.
and people said the same thing about dak back in 2016 before he was forced into starting role.

 

[Bullflop]

I can't imagine the Cowboys dissing Dak to the extent of benching him in favor of Andy at this juncture. They'll have all of this year, whatever that entails, to determine what course to take going forward. If Dak fails to produce in the future, it will determine what's to become of him and also what to do with Dalton. Circumstances will serve to indicate what to consider. Many unanswered questions make the current picture unsuitable for acting prematurely.

 

[sean10mm]

That is standard football mentality lol I am thinking outside the box, some can some cant.
And I am pretty sure that is what will happen, as jones boys cant think outside the box either.

By all accounts the new head coach with a Super Bowl ring wants Dak to be his starter. That's where the whole theory runs off the road and into a ditch.

Now if Dak butts heads with him or regresses, then it's easy for the Cowboys to move on. If he has a great season then your "problem" is what to do with a great QB, which is basically... the opposite of a problem.

so can we trade him now? sheesh, such drama over an average quarterback who started in a dream situation.

How is playing for Jason Garrett not a nightmare scenario? He's killed the legacy of everyone that he came on contact with but Ware, and that's because he left and got a ring playing for a competent franchise

 

[DandyDon52]

But what was the term - 4 or 5 years? Reports have been that was the holdup. If the guarantee was the same as Goff’s, but for 5 years while Goff’s was for a 4 year extension, that matters.

I imagine it was the jones offer which was 5 years.
However, it could be that dak planned to play on the tag twice all along. if so he wont sign long contract next off season either.
And his price could go up depending on how well he plays.

That is where if you dont play him it changes all that. Do you think dak wants to sit on the bench all season??
He might be more inclined to sign a team friendly deal next season, but if they play him and he does good, then he has all the power,
and they will have to accept his deal, not vice versa.

 

[DFWJC]

That is standard football mentality lol I am thinking outside the box, some can some cant.
And I am pretty sure that is what will happen, as jones boys cant think outside the box either.

You get points for creativity DD.

But man, sitting a healthy young QB who had a solid 2019 and are paying 31+ million to sounds WAY out there.
And the argument that he'll play cautiously was debunked last year when he rolled the dice and played for 30million less than he is guaranteed to get this year.

But if you want to say trade him for a bunch of picks, all while saving 31 mil, and start Dalton....that's at least in the realm of possibility. Though slim.

Really, I think this buys McCarthy a year to see Dak up close in his system before committing 150-200 million. That alone is worth a ton.

 

[GenoT]

Ok I know it sounds stupid lol, I will try to explain.
If they start Dak, and he has a good season, lets say to the champ game,and lose.
What do they get out of that? Dak will want even more money and short contract still, will they
then give him say 40 mil a year?
And if they do play dak, they wont be picking high, it will be mid round to low round, so no real chance
at drafting a top of the round qb.
They also will not know what Dalton might have done, or what they have in him or dinucci.

So to me it might be smarter to start Dalton and if he isnt able to play good and win games, try dinucci,
and see how he does. if they do poorly, dallas will have a top of the round draft pick in 21 , which could be
good enough to get a top qb prospect.
if they or 1 of them does good, well you may have found your cheaper qb for near future.

The only way to know is to play them at least 3-4 games each or whole season if you want the high pick.

If they play dak but not sure they want to keep him and willing to pay the huge salary he will want,
all they are doing is helping dak sell himself to other teams and be worth more.
If he is on the bench the whole season his value will stay the same or go down.
So even if they think they may want to keep dak, the best thing is not to play him this season.
They could then put him on the tag where other teams can bid, and see what his value is, which is what
many said they should have done this season.
Then they might get him at a decent price, or they
might find out Dalton or Dinucci can do just as well, but at much cheaper price.

But if they play dak they just elevate his price and value , increase interest from other teams,and they
dont find out anything about dalton or dinucci.

And the only scenario that would be worth it is if they can get to SB and win it, but that is probably
not going to happen.

Dak is going to play it safe to avoid injurys, and he cant be a happy person about not getting contract he
wanted, unless he wanted to play on tag all along, which means he was playing with the jones boys and fans
for the whole off season. But either way I dont see him as motivated as he would need to be to get to
and win a SB , which we all should know is not easy.

And I will say Dalton and Dinucci may not be able to handle the reins, but there is only one way to know for sure, and there is a reward of that top 5 pick they could shoot for if they are not good enough.

The jones boys will want to play dak and try to go all the way, but unless they do it, nothing good comes out of it.
And if they did win the SB , I cant even imagine what dak would be demanding then, possibly more than
mahomes.

I think I would play the other 2 D's lol, let dakster cool on the bench, be humbled a little, and then see
what happens in the draft, and then decide if I want to sign dak or not.

Until you’re mathematically eliminated from the postseason, you start your best players and play to win.

All other considerations are bullcrap.

 

[aikemirv]

Jerry would love to pay Dak if the team is successful. He has not given up on him at all IMO.

Jerry won't care if that success costs him an extra 5 mill per year

 

[DoctorChicken]

Pound for pound we have the worst qb situation in the league

I smoke some good stuff, but not as good as you my dude.

 

[DandyDon52]

By all accounts the new head coach with a Super Bowl ring wants Dak to be his starter. That's where the whole theory runs off the road and into a ditch.

Now if Dak butts heads with him or regresses, then it's easy for the Cowboys to move on. If he has a great season then your "problem" is what to do with a great QB, which is basically... the opposite of a problem.

new head coach with a Super Bowl ring wants Dak to be his starter.....we dont really know that.
He has said give us the best players and we will coach them up and use them.

If he has a great season then your "problem" is what to do with a great QB, which is basically... the opposite of a problem......lol the problem is getting the
guy to sign a contract !!!! it will be worse if he has a good year.
What if he wants 40-45 mil a year , 4 year deal, and 150 G ?? you dont see that as a problem?
if he doesnt play it is hard for his price to go up. also fewer teams will be interested in him.

And this is sort of for fun lol , you guys take it so seriously lol.
the jones boys will start dak, they are standard football guys and they are paying dak a large amount.
I am saying what I would do, not what is going to happen, in fact I would have told him if he doesnt sign then he might be on the bench this season.

As it is dak knows they want / need him to start, so he can do what he wants, play on tag or sign, he chose tag, and next year will be the same only worse.