Jerry/Stephen royally screwed up again

TheMarathonContinues

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too much emotion in this post, step away from the keyboard. he's still here, for now, be happy.
You guys just are hilarious on here to me. You spend all day telling me Dak sucks but then in the next sentence will say trade him. Someone other said trade him for Ngakoue right after saying he sucked and that the Jags would throw in a draft pick too. Its like one sentence you tell us your evaluation says he sucks but someone is "dumb" enough to give you the house for him......you are right though. If this is how this site is gonna be I might need to regroup and take your advice and step away from the keyboard...
 

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I'm just of the belief that if you have a franchise quarterback you don't let one year determine if you will sign him or not. Yes, I understand a 5 year deal will allow for you to restructure and sign someone who probably will suck for you in the future. I get it. If they are that concerned with money they should've thought about it before they re-signed Zeke and Cooper.

They signed top players which is why they signed Zeke and Cooper. Dak needs them as much as this team needs them. I like Dak and want to see success but I like the Cowboys even more and I want them to do what is good for the overall team not 1 man, this is not a 1 man team. Dallas offered damn good money, if Dak wants to take his chance on a 1 year deal fine, I hope him the best but this notion that Dallas should bend over for 1 guy is a load of crap. Dak is good but he is far from elite at this stage and has more to prove. I hope he does
 

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You guys just are hilarious on here to me. You spend all day telling me Dak sucks but then in the next sentence will say trade him. Someone other said trade him for Ngakoue right after saying he sucked and that the Jags would throw in a draft pick too. Its like one sentence you tell us your evaluation says he sucks but someone is "dumb" enough to give you the house for him......you are right though. If this is how this site is gonna be I might need to regroup and take your advice and step away from the keyboard...
yep, it seems you are on here trying to defend everything Dak. Blaming everybody but him. Then blaming everybody that doesn't think he's the best QB in the league.
I'm just saying if you think he's so valuable then trading him won't be as issue. right? somebody is going to use up 13 plus percent of their salary cap to mortgage their team for him, right?
 

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yep, it seems you are on here trying to defend everything Dak. Blaming everybody but him. Then blaming everybody that doesn't think he's the best QB in the league.
I'm just saying if you think he's so valuable then trading him won't be as issue. right? somebody is going to use up 13 plus percent of their salary cap to mortgage their team for him, right?
Ok now when did I say he was the best QB in the league or blame anyone for not thinking it? Maybe you are getting confused with the other posters and just lumping us all together.
 

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Ok now when did I say he was the best QB in the league or blame anyone for not thinking it? Maybe you are getting confused with the other posters and just lumping us all together.
So you are not on here defending everything Dak. I might have put you in there with the others who blame everybody but dak? And just wondering what team is going to want to use 13 plus percent of the salary cap to get dak? not saying somebody ain't out there who won't, but who would?
 

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They signed top players which is why they signed Zeke and Cooper. Dak needs them as much as this team needs them. I like Dak and want to see success but I like the Cowboys even more and I want them to do what is good for the overall team not 1 man, this is not a 1 man team. Dallas offered damn good money, if Dak wants to take his chance on a 1 year deal fine, I hope him the best but this notion that Dallas should bend over for 1 guy is a load of crap. Dak is good but he is far from elite at this stage and has more to prove. I hope he does
And I'm saying they should've thought twice before signing Zeke and Cooper. Hell Lawrence too. Cooper doesn't show up in road games yet you gave him 100 million....not a smart way to allocate funds especially with a deep wide receiver coming up which netted us CEE DEE LAMB btw.

Its been proven time and time again you don't invest a lot of money in running backs. They did it anyway because they are the smartest guys in the room.

Lawrence....100 million for a defensive end is not smart business especially one with only one great year under his belt.

If they were concerned with money and signing future free agents they should've handled these three contracts way different than they did.
 

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That's why when we landed Lamb this year the first thing I said was Jerry will find away to screw this excitement up. He had nearly 2 years to figure this out and struck out. Maybe it's all for naught any way. Time will soon tell. But if Dak happens to win a SB or go deep into a playoff run? Dallas is gonna have to pay WAY more then they needed to if Jerry and Stephen had just struck earlier. Some how our team finds away to stay in the news and it's usually for the worse:facepalm:
 

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So you are not on here defending everything Dak. I might have put you in there with the others who blame everybody but dak? And just wondering what team is going to want to use 13 plus percent of the salary cap to get dak? not saying somebody ain't out there who won't, but who would?
No I did not ask you do I defend Dak. I do. I asked you when did I say he was the best QB in the league or blame anyone for not thinking that?


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I disagree about the Bills and 49ers. I think they stick it out further with those guys.
 

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And I'm saying they should've thought twice before signing Zeke and Cooper. Hell Lawrence too. Cooper doesn't show up in road games yet you gave him 100 million....not a smart way to allocate funds especially with a deep wide receiver coming up which netted us CEE DEE LAMB btw.

Its been proven time and time again you don't invest a lot of money in running backs. They did it anyway because they are the smartest guys in the room.

Lawrence....100 million for a defensive end is not smart business especially one with only one great year under his belt.

If they were concerned with money and signing future free agents they should've handled these three contracts way different than they did.

That is your opinion. I think Dallas needs talent on this team to win. Dak is not going to do it by himself. I guess Dallas could go cheap at all position and pay Dak whatever he demands? LOL I don't think so. Cowboys offer was damn good by any standard. If he wants to go on a 1 year franchise tag great but that is a risky gamble to take. at 31 mill this year expectation will come along with it and 8-8 will not cut it.
 

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You guys just are hilarious on here to me. You spend all day telling me Dak sucks but then in the next sentence will say trade him. Someone other said trade him for Ngakoue right after saying he sucked and that the Jags would throw in a draft pick too. Its like one sentence you tell us your evaluation says he sucks but someone is "dumb" enough to give you the house for him......you are right though. If this is how this site is gonna be I might need to regroup and take your advice and step away from the keyboard...
There is nothing wrong about wishing for a dumb owner that sees Dak as the Dak-lovers sees him. A percentage of the Cowboy’s fan base swoons when hearing the name “ Dak”, so it is not unreasonable to think one owner will be stupid enough to trade for him.
 

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Ok now when did I say he was the best QB in the league or blame anyone for not thinking it? Maybe you are getting confused with the other posters and just lumping us all together.
You have lumped yourself in with them with your previous posts.
 

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There is nothing wrong about wishing for a dumb owner that sees Dak as the Dak-lovers sees him. A percentage of the Cowboy’s fan base swoons when hearing the name “ Dak”, so it is not unreasonable to think one owner will be stupid enough to trade for him.

I admit I am a so called Dak lover, I think he can get this team to achieve the goals we all want. However as I have said I think Dallas made a very good offer for a QB who still need to take another step to be one of the tops in the league. If I felt Dak was a finished product who will not improve from this point on, then I would not offer him anything close to what the Cowboys did. However I do think Dak can take that next step and I think Jerry feels that he can as well
 

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You guys just are hilarious on here to me. You spend all day telling me Dak sucks but then in the next sentence will say trade him. Someone other said trade him for Ngakoue right after saying he sucked and that the Jags would throw in a draft pick too. Its like one sentence you tell us your evaluation says he sucks but someone is "dumb" enough to give you the house for him......you are right though. If this is how this site is gonna be I might need to regroup and take your advice and step away from the keyboard...

Your reference above is to me.

Right let me spell it out.

Myles Garrett is perhaps the elite pass rusher going forward given his production as a young player. He just signed a contract paying $25 million a year over 5 years. He is pretty much as good as it gets for the position in relation to age going forward as a pass rusher.

Ngakoue is a very good pass rusher but a notch below Garrett hence why he reportedly wants $22 million a year.

If we rate Prescott in the Tannehill level that's $29 million a year. Goff $33 million a year. Say he's in between the two or even slightly above then you are looking at up to $35 million a year.

So in short, quarterback is the most important position in the team as shown by being paid the most money of any position. I.e an average/slightly above average QB is worth more than a good/very good pass rusher. I'm just spelling that out to be as condescending to you as you were to me.

Prescott is an upgrade over Minshew. Very few people would dispute that and the Jaguars would view it the same way. People claim they will tank for Lawrence but I don't think teams intentionally start a season thinking we will lose all 16 games.

So they would get an upgrade at quarterback whilst giving up a good/very good pass rusher who wants out from the Jaguars and like Prescott is playing on the tag.

What is so outrageous in the Jaguars receiving Prescott and the Cowboys receiving Ngakoue and say a third rounder?
 

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No I did not ask you do I defend Dak. I do. I asked you when did I say he was the best QB in the league or blame anyone for not thinking that?


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I disagree about the Bills and 49ers. I think they stick it out further with those guys.

First season to judge Darnold in reality. Mission impossible the prior two years. No oline and awful receivers.

The Bills love Allen and rightly so. Hilarious how reporters etc throw their name into the hat for Prescott. They would have ABSOLUTELY no interest in him!

I have a feeling the Colts will be interested in Rodgers with Eason sitting behind.

Bucs and Saints will be looking for a QB that win the occasional shoot out.

Bears, Jaguars and Panthers the best looking fits for Prescott in terms of style of offense and likely need.
 

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God, just imagine if Jerry is back to trying to trying to get a QB with the least amount of investment possible. Like, washed-up baseball players.

I am not tied to Dak one way or the other (I think he's good but replaceable), but I can't think of anyone I trust less to find a great QB than Jerry & Son.
 

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When I found out Dak wanted more than Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers he lost me.

That's not Jerry's fault.

Dak can make enough money OFF the field that he should have taken what the Cowboys offered.

in lieu of your next pay raise cowboyszone will pay you .5% of the revenue they make off of advertising.
 

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There is nothing wrong about wishing for a dumb owner that sees Dak as the Dak-lovers sees him. A percentage of the Cowboy’s fan base swoons when hearing the name “ Dak”, so it is not unreasonable to think one owner will be stupid enough to trade for him.
What genius logic this is. Dak lovers love him do owners do too. Yikes.
 
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