Mike Nolan history

[GimmeTheBall!]

Hasn't been a defensive coordinator since 2014 in Atlanta.

Took over the Falcons DC job and inherited the #8 defense in the league.

It went to #12, #28, and #32 the next three years.

Nobody offered him a DC position since then.

Excited?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

When discussing The D, Atlanta has rarely come up.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Hasn't been a defensive coordinator since 2014 in Atlanta.

Took over the Falcons DC job and inherited the #8 defense in the league.

It went to #12, #28, and #32 the next three years.

Nobody offered him a DC position since then.

Excited?

I don't care really. All I know I'm happy for a change for once. Especially from a Def. Coordinator who focuses on takeaways and making it hard for the offense to decipher what defense were playing.

I'm so sick of the predictability crap that Garrett and Marinelli sold to us all these years. So what about his record. I'm giving him a pass until proven otherwise.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Hasn't been a defensive coordinator since 2014 in Atlanta.

Took over the Falcons DC job and inherited the #8 defense in the league.

It went to #12, #28, and #32 the next three years.

Nobody offered him a DC position since then.

Excited?

Super old news. Terrible thread.

 

[Verdict]

Gotta run a more complicated defense to put more pressure on QBs. It will cost us some at times, but offenses are just too efficient now to play it safe and wait for them to make mistakes. Especially in the playoffs against the best QBs. Gotta confuse them and pressure them.

Nolan may work out, and he may not. Marinelli was just not going to on principle.

Well said. This was why Garrett feasted off of bad teams but often did poorly against better teams. Better teams don’t beat themselves.

 

[xwalker]

Hasn't been a defensive coordinator since 2014 in Atlanta.

Took over the Falcons DC job and inherited the #8 defense in the league.

It went to #12, #28, and #32 the next three years.

Nobody offered him a DC position since then.

Excited?

Can we review this thread at the end of the season...

The talent was a problem many of those year. The talent was a mess in Atlanta due to injuries, free agent losses, old players, etc.

Their MLB and WLB in 2014 were UDFAs. They lost their top 3 defenders to injury before the end of the season.

I've reviewed all games from that 2014 season. The scheme was sound and the players appeared to be well coached. They just didn't have the required talent.

The 2019 Cowboys defense was the opposite. They had enough talent but the scheme and coaching failed.

 

[8FOR!3]

He has a pretty good track record overall. Seems like Atlanta missed on a lot of draft picks and he didn't have the defensive talent there.

 

[xwalker]

Gotta run a more complicated defense to put more pressure on QBs. It will cost us some at times, but offenses are just too efficient now to play it safe and wait for them to make mistakes. Especially in the playoffs against the best QBs. Gotta confuse them and pressure them.

Nolan may work out, and he may not. Marinelli was just not going to on principle.

Cowboys
Rob Ryan:
Defense so complicated neither the coaches, players or RR himself understood it. RR confused his own players more than the opponents.

Marinelli:
The most simplistic defense in the NFL the past 50 years...

 

[quickccc]

Cowboys
Rob Ryan:
Defense so complicated neither the coaches, players or RR himself understood it. RR confused his own players more than the opponents.

Marinelli:
The most simplistic defense in the NFL the past 50 years...

so we're definitely looking for the in-between factor ?

 

[gimmesix]

The only reason people are excited is because he's a different face. He'll go the same way Sanjay Lal or Kris Richard did. People get all hyped for mediocre coaches as long as they're new. Obviously no other front office thinks he's a good defensive coordinator candidate for the last several years.

Not why I'm excited. I'm excited because I looked beyond his stint at Atlanta.

You can't take one stop among many and draw conclusions about a coach. There may be reasons why his success differed.

As a defensive coordinator, his units have finished 20th or worse in yards per game six times compared to the five times they finished in the top-10. ...
Among Nolan's six defenses to finish in the top-10 in yards, four of those years occurred in his first season as defensive coordinator ('93 Giants, '10 Dolphins, '09 Broncos, '00 Jets). The '12 Falcons are worth mentioning, even though they finished 24th overall, the worst of his first seasons with a team, because Atlanta finished No. 5 in points allowed.

Aside from Nolan's first ever season as a defensive coordinator with New York in 1993, that points allowed mark with the Falcons is his best ever — regardless of what year it was to coordinate the defense.

The '12 Falcons are also germane to the discussion because they finished fifth in takeaways with 31. Atlanta reached the NFC Championship Game that season, and the offense was part of the neutralizing factor for Nolan's defense giving up so many yards. The Falcons offense finished eighth in the NFL, which offset the defense being 24th overall.

Factor in the offense finishing seventh in turnovers and the defense fifth in takeaways, and then the same placements with regards to points for and points against, and the Falcons were able to achieve the No. 1 seed in the conference.

Even the '14 Falcons are worth mentioning because they also finished top-10 in takeaways. Even though the defense was dead last and the offense No. 8 overall, and even though Atlanta was 27th in points allowed and 12th in points for, they were No. 6 in takeaways and the offense was No. 13 in turnovers.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Cowboys
Rob Ryan:
Defense so complicated neither the coaches, players or RR himself understood it. RR confused his own players more than the opponents.

Marinelli:
The most simplistic defense in the NFL the past 50 years...

RR - he poorly executed a better philosophy. I would have rather stuck it out with Ryan than move to Kiffinelli.

 

[Brax]

If the Boys keep the opponents to 20 points a game or less we should be in good shape record wise.

last year was 20.1 ppg, don't see that .1 makes any difference

 

[Floatyworm]

Hasn't been a defensive coordinator since 2014 in Atlanta.

Took over the Falcons DC job and inherited the #8 defense in the league.

It went to #12, #28, and #32 the next three years.

Nobody offered him a DC position since then.

Excited?

Exactly what I've been saying since we hired him.....He has always taken the talent around him and make them fit his scheme.....instead of taking the talent ....and putting them in the best position for success. Big difference. And now that you have seen the depth chart...oh boy....we are going back to a 3-4 defense. Big mistake.

 

[xwalker]

Exactly what I've been saying since we hired him.....He has always taken the talent around him and make them fit his scheme.....instead of taking the talent ....and putting them in the best position for success. Big difference. And now that you have seen the depth chart...oh boy....we are going back to a 3-4 defense. Big mistake.

Completely wrong.

His scheme has varied over the years more than most and it was because he was adapting to the available players.

Marinelli's DL scheme never changed and his back 7 scheme was dependent on the assistants those years, not on the players available.

 

[DuncanIso]

I don't care really. All I know I'm happy for a change for once. Especially from a Def. Coordinator who focuses on takeaways and making it hard for the offense to decipher what defense were playing.

I'm so sick of the predictability crap that Garrett and Marinelli sold to us all these years. So what about his record. I'm giving him a pass until proven otherwise.

his defenses also give up a lot of yards and points.

but at least he’s best buddies with big Mike.

cause that’s the only freakin way he has a DC job in the NFL.

 

[lqmac1]

Hasn't been a defensive coordinator since 2014 in Atlanta.

Took over the Falcons DC job and inherited the #8 defense in the league.

It went to #12, #28, and #32 the next three years.

Nobody offered him a DC position since then.

Excited?

Yes I am because I trust Mike McCarthy

 

[xwalker]

Hasn't been a defensive coordinator since 2014 in Atlanta.

Took over the Falcons DC job and inherited the #8 defense in the league.

It went to #12, #28, and #32 the next three years.

Nobody offered him a DC position since then.

Excited?

If he is not a good D-Coordinator then why did so many NFL teams hire him to be their D-Coordinator?

He has been hired as DC by 8 NFL teams not including the 49ers that hired him as Head Coach and General Manager.

 

[ConstantReboot]

his defenses also give up a lot of yards and points.

but at least he’s best buddies with big Mike.

cause that’s the only freakin way he has a DC job in the NFL.

So has Marinelli. Our defense has been plain vanilla for many years. We are always low on turnovers. Low on 3rd down defensed, low on sacks.

I will give Nolan the benefit of a doubt here. From all indications, is that we are trying out new ways, new looks and different wrinkles. When was the last time we ever done that?

 

[erod]

If he is not a good D-Coordinator then why did so many NFL teams hire him to be their D-Coordinator?

He has been hired as DC by 8 NFL teams not including the 49ers that hired him as Head Coach and General Manager.

Check his history. Failure.

 

[Hadenough]

Hasn't been a defensive coordinator since 2014 in Atlanta.

Took over the Falcons DC job and inherited the #8 defense in the league.

It went to #12, #28, and #32 the next three years.

Nobody offered him a DC position since then.

Excited?

Ughh! Well at least we have McCarthy who was bailed out by Rodgers clutch play in big moments numerous times over the years.