News: Dak Prescott: It Starts With Me

[NotForLong]

What a leader

 

[Hook'em#11]

I've been a way for a minute. Why so much whining? Panic.

Did the Cowboys already lose the Super Bowl this season? I thought it was only game one?

 

[NotForLong]

Not According Dakistans around here

 

[cern]

talk is cheap. i don't consider it leadership to take the rap for a loss. leadership is going out on the field and winning the game. there are no leaders among the losers. just speechmakers.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

talk is cheap. i don't consider it leadership to take the rap for a loss. leadership is going out on the field and winning the game. there are no leaders among the losers. just speechmakers.

He's got the doggy Falcons at home this week so he is selling leadership.
Talk to him after the Hawks game.....then it will be a team thing as usual in one of his many boring monotonous press conferences!

 

[Redball Express]

2016-2018 Aaron Rodgers was 20-18-1. 2014-2016 Drew Brees was 21-26, and 2006-2008 he was 25-24.

As for playoffs, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees didn't win their first playoff game until their 6th NFL season.

I'm guessing in all those circumstances winning and losing isn't only about the QB though, right?

Yes..

nice numbers to selectively make a point...

but help me out..

Rodgers is still the QB becuz he has already won a SB before you focus on his record after that and say "see".

Same with Brees..when did he win his SB? I forgot the year..it was the year of Hurricane Katrina I believe.

So these guys have had lesser records but it was after they had already won it all.

Dak on the other hand is still yet to win anything more than the Eastern Conference although it was twice.

And in each of those years..Philly was 2-3 games ahead of us and had to completely implode for us to catch them.

So Dak had alot of help getting those conference titles..it wasn't just him clearing the field with his play at QB.

Like last year with Garrett receiving his ultimatum from the FO to either make it to the Conference Game or turn in your keys to your office..

Dak needs a similar ultimatum.

Win or move aside.

Take a paycut until you prove you can win more than a Participants Trophy.

We played this game with Romo for 10 years. We made everything Romo Friendly. It was a bust.

We have now doubled down and made it Dak Friendly and being asked to spend $100s of millions more for Dak to stay..

plus the $100s of millions on other players to support Dak.

At some point Dak has to pay off.

I can't see when that point is.

Can anybody?

 

[TexasHillbilly]

If the Cowboys don't get their OL in tact, they won't be winning anything. I am disappointed that they lost Sunday but it is only one game, and the first game of the season. I vaguely remember them being 3-5 to start the season and still making the playoffs. I'm not giving up yet. I am just glad they are playing football. I thought the season was getting canceled.

 

[OmerV]

Yes..

nice numbers to selectively make a point...

but help me out..

Rodgers is still the QB becuz he has already won a SB before you focus on his record after that and say "see".

Same with Brees..when did he win his SB? I forgot the year..it was the year of Hurricane Katrina I believe.is still in a

So these guys have had lesser records but it was after they had already won it all.

Dak on the other hand is still yet to win anything more than the Eastern Conference although it was twice.

And in each of those years..Philly was 2-3 games ahead of us and had to completely implode for us to catch them.

So Dak had alot of help getting those conference titles..it wasn't just him clearing the field with his play at QB.

Like last year with Garrett receiving his ultimatum from the FO to either make it to the Conference Game or turn in your keys to your office..

Dak needs a similar ultimatum.

Win or move aside.

Take a paycut until you prove you can win more than a Participants Trophy.

We played this game with Romo for 10 years. We made everything Romo Friendly. It was a bust.

We have now doubled down and made it Dak Friendly and being asked to spend $100s of millions more for Dak to stay..

plus the $100s of millions on other players to support Dak.

At some point Dak has to pay off.

I can't see when that point is.

Can anybody?

I think you missed the point. The point is that any QB can go through a stretch where the team doesn't win much, but that doesn't condemn them. I selectively chose a 3 year period for Rodgers because the guy I responded to also selectively chose a 3 year period to argue the other way.

I noticed you conveniently focused on Rodgers because his 3 year period came after winning the Super Bowl, but you ingnored that one of Brees 3 year periods came before winning a Super Bowl, and you also ignored the comments about playoff wins. Accordingly, isn't it a bit disingenuous to talk about me being selective?

 

[DallasEast]

From this point forward, personal insults will result in members being permanently benched from the thread soon after the particular posts are reviewed.

 

[Redball Express]

If the Cowboys don't get their OL in tact, they won't be winning anything. I am disappointed that they lost Sunday but it is only one game, and the first game of the season. I vaguely remember them being 3-5 to start the season and still making the playoffs. I'm not giving up yet. I am just glad they are playing football. I thought the season was getting canceled.

Although none of us knew it at the time..

the moment the virus hit and preseason was canceled and so was physical contact..

that ended this season for us.

there were what, 8 new HCs this year, all of which had new coaching staffs to pull together and those teams were allowed to begin their preseason agendas before the rest of the other teams?

Completely washed out by the pandemic.

That just ruined this year and turned it into an exercise of futility.

So as a fanbase we have to accept what has happened.

Fans all over the league have the same problems.

 

[cern]

for years we heard witten repeat over and over we've got to get better.
for years we heard romo repeat over and over we've got to find a way to win.
now we hear dak say it starts with me over and over again. isn't it about time one of these "leaders" actually goes out on the field and gets the job done. talk is cheap.

 

[Redball Express]

I think you missed the point. The point is that any QB can go through a stretch where the team doesn't win much, but that doesn't condemn them. I selectively chose a 3 year period for Rodgers because the guy I responded to also selectively chose a 3 year period to argue the other way.

I noticed you conveniently focused on Rodgers because his 3 year period came after winning the Super Bowl, but you ingnored that one of Brees 3 year periods came before winning a Super Bowl, and you also ignored the comments about playoff winbone of contention here in the Forum for months now.s. Accordingly, isn't it a bit disingenuous to talk about me being selective?

No..

I understand your points and some I agree with what you are implying. We are going to have to wait and see.

And no,.I did not get into a lengthy reply going down your list of QB examples. Your point about Manning is very valid. Brees also.

But finding a small handful of exceptions to make your point does not mean everything you are implying is correct.

Its not a situation were numbers clarify the points. And the jury is still out on whether or not Dak will be ranked along with those guys.

My point is that those guys are still around and winning and the reason why is that have already won it all.

Their teams can afford to pay them huge contracts becuz they have proven to be winners at the highest levels.

Dak is asking to be paid BEFORE he reaches that point of unified consensus he has earned it.

Thats my concern.

 

[OmerV]

No..

I understand your points and some I agree with what you are implying. We are going to have to wait and see.

And no,.I did not get into a lengthy reply going down your list of QB examples. Your point about Manning is very valid. Brees also.

But finding a small handful of exceptions to make your point does not mean everything you are implying is correct.

Its not a situation were numbers clarify the points. And the jury is still out on whether or not Dak will be ranked along with those guys.

My point is that those guys are still around and winning and the reason why is that have already won it all.

Their teams can afford to pay them huge contracts becuz they have proven to be winners at the highest levels.

Dak is asking to be paid BEFORE he reaches that point of unified consensus he has earned it.

Thats my concern.

I didn't imply anything, and what I said was that a selective sample size is not a true, definitive way to judge. What is invalid about that?

Of course the jury is still out on Dak. I didn't indicate, or even imply, otherwise. Again, I just showed that a definitive judgement based on the standards of the poster I quoted is not fair because those standards have been proven by history not to be concrete standards to judge by. That was the point of the examples I gave - to show that those standards don't condemn a player.

 

[5Stars]

All of it. Every QB has their favorite plays and comfort zone. Even Brady.

The problem with that, letting The Dak have favorite plays is that it becomes a trend that other team pick up on. The Dak has to learn multiple plays and not babysat with just the ones he likes.

 

[Runwildboys]

I didn't imply anything, and what I said was that a selective sample size is not a true, definitive way to judge. What is invalid about that?

Of course the jury is still out on Dak. I didn't indicate, or even imply, otherwise. Again, I just showed that a definitive judgement based on the standards of the poster I quoted is not fair because those standards have been proven by history not to be concrete standards to judge by. That was the point of the examples I gave - to show that those standards don't condemn a player.

No, but Cowboys fans always do!

 

[Risen Star]

Yeah, that's the problem.

 

[Ranching]

The problem with that, letting The Dak have favorite plays is that it becomes a trend that other team pick up on. The Dak has to learn multiple plays and not babysat with just the ones he likes.

BS! Listen carefully.....EVERY PLAYER HAS THIER FAVORITE PLAYS......it's up to the OC to call the plays and understand his players abilities in order to do so. Not only QBs, but all players. It even works on defense. What a novel idea, call the game to your players strength! Wow!!!! Genius! Lol!!!
@Runwildboys

 

[Runwildboys]

BS! Listen carefully.....EVERY PLAYER HAS THIER FAVORITE PLAYS......it's up to the OC to call the plays and understand his players abilities in order to do so. Not only QBs, but all players. It even works on defense. What a novel idea, call the game to your players strength! Wow!!!! Genius! Lol!!!
@Runwildboys

I understand that QBs have their favorite plays, of course they do. But I question if the play calling is limited by Dak's limitations. Brady can handle any play they give him, but I'm not sure Dak has that ability. Also, we've all seen Dak throw on the run,and he's pretty good at it, so you'd think that would be among his favorite things to do, yet it must not be, since it doesn't happen very often.

 

[Denim Chicken]

talk is cheap. i don't consider it leadership to take the rap for a loss. leadership is going out on the field and winning the game. there are no leaders among the losers. just speechmakers.

I'm imagining you teaching your children that after their first team sports loss.

 

[Ranching]

I understand that QBs have their favorite plays, of course they do. But I question if the play calling is limited by Dak's limitations. Brady can handle any play they give him, but I'm not sure Dak has that ability. Also, we've all seen Dak throw on the run,and he's pretty good at it, so you'd think that would be among his favorite things to do, yet it must not be, since it doesn't happen very often.

He's not gonna run and risk injury without a long-term contract. Simple as that.
Brady is a drop back passer, not hard to call a game for that type of QB. He has more limitations than Dak because he is not a running threat.
Dak doesn't have limitations, that's only fabricated in people's mind. This crap is really funny to me, fans trying to tear down this dude is pretty pathetic.