Why have we not signed Ron Leary?

[OmerV]

With all the turmoil of playing a rookie at RT..

why are we not moving Connor Williams back out to RT and playing Leary at LG?

Leary actually lives 5 minutes from the Star..

is apparently healthy and wants to play.

This just seems like a done deal but we are doing nothing.

Hmmmm...

Leary has had injuries each of the last 4-5 years, including a ruptured Achilles in 2018, and he couldn’t make the Cleveland Brown's roster. He’s likely not the player you remember.

 

[MikeB80]

when you have open holes in starter positions you don’t ignore those holes because you are so worried a guy like McGovern may be released. Has he ever blocked a single man in his career? No team is rushing to grab him.

Donald had a 38% pressure rate. All last season he averaged 18%. That doesn’t even count the amount of plays when other guys were in a Daks face. Trying to shift focus to Prescott when Connors play is questioned is just weak.

yea sure. Release a 2nd round guard to sign an old injured guard who has no ties to any of the staff here to fix a problem at tackle.

excellent strategy.

This whole fanbase shifts the focus from that one guy all the time. Maybe this week he will actually throw the ball to wide open receivers/tight ends down the field or at the least throw third and fourth down balls that are catchable and beyond the sticks.

or they could just sign ron leary I guess according to you, that will fix it.

 

[Redball Express]

He's not on any teams roster. What do you think that means?

According to the video I added..

they did not come to a conclusion why.

I can only assume the OL coach likes the rookie as his pet cat.

He was pretty much a turnstile against the Rams.

What is your guess?

That he can't play anymore?

 

[cern]

don't compound a weak spot by creating two.

 

[EJK24]

This baffles me. Martin is the guy we need to move outside when we have an injury. He'll be average at worst.

You want to move our best player on the offensive line, one of the best in the entire league, to a different position that as you said, he could be average at and then have to fill his position with another average player?

You keep the all pro at his position and fix your problem at tackle in another way.

 

[cern]

With all the turmoil of playing a rookie at RT..

why are we not moving Connor Williams back out to RT and playing Leary at LG?

Leary actually lives 5 minutes from the Star..

is apparently healthy and wants to play.

This just seems like a done deal but we are doing nothing.

Hmmmm...

why did we ever release frank pollack?

 

[Redball Express]

This baffles me. Martin is the guy we need to move outside when we have an injury. He'll be average at worst.

Martin was a tackle at ND.

He was good enough there that we drafted him #1.

I have understood not moving him before.

But now with all the issues..it should be considered.

The OL coach probably is too new to know exactly how to reconfigure the OL.

We are going to need to go to a quick passing offense to neutralize the pass rush.

Hmmmm..can Moore do that?

 

[quickccc]

why did we ever release frank pollack?

the team held Pollack the most accountable for the Chaz Green disaster.

And the Jones admitted at pre-draft interview that it stuck with them for many months to come.
Despite management knowing the HC was overlooking or clueless to help solving the Green issue himself.

 

[Redball Express]

You want to move our best player on the offensive line, one of the best in the entire league, to a different position that as you said, he could be average at and then have to fill his position with another average player?

You keep the all pro at his position and fix your problem at tackle in another way.

Traditionally..you would be right.

But we just do not have All Pros at every position now.

Martin needs to be allowed to play as a plug and play guy..

going where the biggest fire is for that week.

If it's G..fine..if it's T..fine.

Martin should be able to do this.

Just my belief.

 

[Redball Express]

don't compound a weak spot by creating two.

Do you really believe Martin at T creates a weakness?

He was a T at Notre Dame..he should have a good idea what's what.

I would be more reluctant if he was being asked to switch from right side to left.

It's not going to happen. But otherwise the offense is definitely going to negate us

We shall see.

 

[EJK24]

Traditionally..you would be right.

But we just do not have All Pros at every position now.

Martin needs to be allowed to play as a plug and play guy..

going where the biggest fire is for that week.

If it's G..fine..if it's T..fine.

Martin should be able to do this.

Just my belief.

I believe he can do it, im saying from a coaching perspective I wouldn't do it.

Yes, you put out the fire at right tackle but then you expose you interior with a much less talented player. I guess you could make the argument for either scenario.

I can see your stance as well.

 

[Redball Express]

Leary has had injuries each of the last 4-5 years, including a ruptured Achilles in 2018, and he couldn’t make the Cleveland Brown's roster. He’s likely not the player you remember.

Understood.

But if he is not going to be a permanent player but just temporary help and used to plug holes as needed..

he maybe serviceable.

 

[Redball Express]

I believe he can do it, im saying from a coaching perspective I wouldn't do it.

Yes, you put out the fire at right tackle but then you expose you interior with a much less talented player. I guess you could make the argument for either scenario.

I can see your stance as well.

Yeah..

You would have to identify the most likely matchup the other team will attack based on their personnel.

Then move Martin as needed.

This would not create breakdowns but it would give the offense a strong point to anchor around.

It's been done before.

Just not by us recently.

 

[quickccc]

AFTER ATL destroys us this week, we will be signing Leary and ET. This will be kin to what Randy Moss did to us back in the day with Minny. Julio will torch our safeties and db's.

Wishful thinking on Leary. People keep reminisance of Leary off that sole lone 2016 year and still think he's that same player.
He hasn't done squat since he's left here and he's battled more injuries than ever.

Cowboys thought he was an decent guy and they don't overpay and dish out big contracts to decent guys
they thought Jeremy Parnell was just a decent guy, despite how brilliantly he filled in for an injured Doug Free in 2016.
They were never going to high dollar him long term. Ditto with Leary.

And again McClay& Co previously drafted a guy that they had relatively high on their draft board.
They think that much about him.

Just like Trysten Hill, McGov hasn't been given the chance to prove his worth on the playing field
and a lot depends upon who is coaching and leading him too.

 

[Redball Express]

You want to move our best player on the offensive line, one of the best in the entire league, to a different position that as you said, he could be average at and then have to fill his position with another average player?

You keep the all pro at his position and fix your problem at tackle in another way.

The video I posted with the discussion sort of meanders along and it's not really a help in clarifying.

One thing mentioned was that becuz of the virus..he would have to be signed and then tested for virus then quarentined for 10 days then moved to the roster.

Then who gets released to make room for him.?

That's means he will miss at least 2-3 games doing all this.

Perhaps that's why?

By that time they expect Collins back.

I still would sign him just to prepare for the second half of the year.

If we are anywhere close to a playoff position at that point..

having him could prove a good move.

 

[GORICO]

With all the turmoil of playing a rookie at RT..

why are we not moving Connor Williams back out to RT and playing Leary at LG?

Leary actually lives 5 minutes from the Star..

is apparently healthy and wants to play.

This just seems like a done deal but we are doing nothing.

Hmmmm...

Redball--i was thinking same thing...he is only 31...and he and others say he has a lot left in tank...he is a mauler too....he is not injured...sometimes i am totally ticked off how NFL has these layers of prejudice for one thing or another..just like

no team going after Kapernick...that totally ticks me off

 

[superonyx]

yea sure. Release a 2nd round guard to sign an old injured guard who has no ties to any of the staff here to fix a problem at tackle.

excellent strategy.

This whole fanbase shifts the focus from that one guy all the time. Maybe this week he will actually throw the ball to wide open receivers/tight ends down the field or at the least throw third and fourth down balls that are catchable and beyond the sticks.

or they could just sign ron leary I guess according to you, that will fix it.

Or we can appoint Connor a job that he hasn’t earned and keep blaming the QB for getting hit in the mouth by whoever is blowing Williams up all game.

super strategy. You are a genius aren’t you.

 

[Bobhaze]

The rear view mirror is rarely where you find a way forward.

There are always big reasons why a former player is available now. Former success is rarely an indication of future success. Otherwise Larry Allen is available...lol.

 

[Redball Express]

Wishful thinking on Leary. People keep reminisance of Leary off that sole lone 2016 year and still think he's that same player.
He hasn't done squat since he's left here and he's battled more injuries than ever.

Cowboys thought he was an decent guy and they don't overpay and dish out big contracts to decent guys
they thought Jeremy Parnell was just a decent guy, despite how brilliantly he filled in for an injured Doug Free in 2016.
They were never going to high dollar him long term. Ditto with Leary.

And again McClay& Co previously drafted a guy that they had relatively high on their draft board.
They think that much about him.

Just like Trysten Hill, McGov hasn't been given the chance to prove his worth on the playing field
and a lot depends upon who is coaching and leading him too.

Good thoughts.

If he can pass the physical..I would sign him and get him ready.

I realize he may not be the same player..

but it now appears we do not have the depth to get thru a season.

We have to assume it will become an even bigger issue if anybody else goes down.

I hope by the break we could get Badass ready to start playing center that then could free up another experienced OL to be used.

What a jigsaw puzzle the OL suddenly is.

 

[Redball Express]

The rear view mirror is rarely where you find a way forward.

There are always big reasons why a former player is available now. Former success is rarely an indication of future success. Otherwise Larry Allen is available...lol.

Yeah..

I don't know.

OL has really been a problem since Beard got sick.

I am begining to feel this year is just a rebuilding year.

Nothing more.

Meaning making decisions thinking we are contending for something needs to be shelved.

Until the whole team from coaches to players gets to understand each other.

We have just had no time to do that.

I would go ahead and let our rookie center play and see how he does. In a perfect year..sitting him and letting him learn would be great.

But the OL is in danger of sinking the season along with the defense and it's lack of time playing together.

Badass needs to be played and let him learn to where by the end of the year..we have a vet OL guy at center.

Let Martin call the OL protection calls and let's not let the OL cave in on Zeke and Dak.

Just my answer.