Are Cowboys over invested at receiver?

bewp7

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yes they are over invested at wr, ol, and rb.

thats what happens when you have to make your entire offense dak friendly.
 

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Our secondary is a mess. We can’t allow opposing teams to run free . It’s not a winning formula . The Cowboys have given up 38 points in consecutive games for the first time since 1988 which was Landry’s last season when we finished 3-13.

Lamb is an awesome talent but with receivers our position of strength are we over invested while leaving other positions of weakness more vulnerable.

Who pays top 5 money to a WR1 while using their 1st pick at WR when you already have 2 starting receivers with so many weaknesses in other areas? That’s a luxury we couldn’t really afford.

Cedric Wilson’s return this season with his breakout performance Sunday scoring his first 2 TD’s of his career with 5 catches over a 100 yards is a perfect example of how you develop instead of continuing to use our highest picks in draft on key positions.

Unless we can convert one of them to our secondary we appear to have over invested in one position while leaving other critical positions of weakness vulnerable which could ultimately cost the season.
:facepalm: Jeez our fans. We finally, after many years, have a great WR corps and this poster wants to crap on it. :facepalm:
 

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No. You can't over-invest at WR. The passing game matters far more than anything else in the modern NFL.

The secondary will look a lot better once the top two corners are healthy, and it's not like the resources put into WR have prevented them from getting a safety anyway.

You absolutely can overinvest in WRs because they generally do not matter. Offense in the NFL today run through the TE and a few decent WRs. Build a line, get a great TE and any NFL level WR will find holes in the coverage.
 

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But it adds up to 1-2. Doesn’t that bother anyone ?

Or we’re good with losing as long as we have an exciting offense. Lol


I would blame

no preseason with a new defensive scheme
putting the defense in bad positions with 4 fumbles, 2 failed fake punts, and an interception
bad special teams and 2 missed extra points
stupid penalties
injuries

not player personnel
 

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You absolutely can overinvest in WRs because they generally do not matter. Offense in the NFL today run through the TE and a few decent WRs. Build a line, get a great TE and any NFL level WR will find holes in the coverage.
Is this a joke? lol
 

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No, when Cee Dee falls to you at the spot you were at you pick him without hesitation. Just like if you spot a $20 bill on the ground, you are not going to walk right pass it and let the person behide you pick it up and keep it.
But you don’t continue buying new shiny wheels if your engine needs work. Maybe we have some fans that would .

Building a team in Cap era is much like managing your budget. Which I’m guessing many fans probably don’t live within their means. Not directed at you but your analogy sparked my response .

We can continue buying shiny parts on offense but if we have no defense it’s going to be faulty engine. There must be a balance of investment.

We are seeing the results of not balancing our assets. Like a shiny car wobbling down the street. Looks good passing but will never make it to the finish line.
 

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I would blame

no preseason with a new defensive scheme
putting the defense in bad positions with 4 fumbles, 2 failed fake punts, and an interception
bad special teams and 2 missed extra points
stupid penalties
injuries

not player personnel
At what point do the scapegoat excuses end?

And begin evaluating the talent level. You actually believe besides these causes we have balanced talent on both sides of the ball?
 

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I would blame

no preseason with a new defensive scheme
putting the defense in bad positions with 4 fumbles, 2 failed fake punts, and an interception
bad special teams and 2 missed extra points
stupid penalties
injuries

not player personnel
Stop with the logic. No place for it here.
 

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McCarthy's Packers were always stacked with receiver talent. The problem is a stubborn refusal to use free agency to improve the team.
 

cern

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Ask Deshaun watson. Desperately seeking deondre hopkins.
 

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Can’t be over invested unless you are letting defensive players or quality OL walk. We are still significantly under the cap and can do whatever we want....Jerry likes looking at his money.
 

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Is this a joke? lol

The great offenses in the NFL today do not run through multiple WRs as it is not practical. KC is Kelce and Hill (mostly Kelce) and a great RB to match. SF is using a bum QB but is carried by Kittle. The Ravens run the ball and throw to a tight end. The Packers have invested basically nothing in their offense in 12 years. The Patriots at their best were Gronk and a slot WR or 2 TEs. The Saints offense is also 1 WR and 1 RB and that is it.

Sorry that reality does not jive with what you thought, but in the NFL having a lot of WRs is not conducive to a great offense and they are overpaid compared to the TE position and even the RB position in terms of value they provide.
 

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Can’t be over invested unless you are letting defensive players or quality OL walk. We are still significantly under the cap and can do whatever we want....Jerry likes looking at his money.
We did let defensive players walk.

Jones, Quinn, Collins and Heath off the top of my head.
 

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At what point do the scapegoat excuses end?

And begin evaluating the talent level. You actually believe besides these causes we have balanced talent on both sides of the ball?

Balanced talent = a team that wont win. You will have a bad offense and a bad defense. Because of the salary cap and draft, one is always going to be better than the other.

I am saying our loses are not because of talent, but the factors i listed.
 

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Our secondary is a mess. We can’t allow opposing teams to run free . It’s not a winning formula . The Cowboys have given up 38 points in consecutive games for the first time since 1988 which was Landry’s last season when we finished 3-13.

Lamb is an awesome talent but with receivers our position of strength are we over invested while leaving other positions of weakness more vulnerable.

Who pays top 5 money to a WR1 while using their 1st pick at WR when you already have 2 starting receivers with so many weaknesses in other areas? That’s a luxury we couldn’t really afford.

Cedric Wilson’s return this season with his breakout performance Sunday scoring his first 2 TD’s of his career with 5 catches over a 100 yards is a perfect example of how you develop instead of continuing to use our highest picks in draft on key positions.

Unless we can convert one of them to our secondary we appear to have over invested in one position while leaving other critical positions of weakness vulnerable which could ultimately cost the season.


No. I wouldn't have targeted a receiver last draft but you do not passup CD unless you find equal talent at a position of need and we could not.
 

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But most of our misses have been on defense. We can’t just say, we tried on defense but it didn’t work out. You have to keep swinging. If not , this is what you end up with. A total imbalance of talent on one side of the ball. This recipe isn’t going anywhere.

I'm not sure what you are trying to point out. My point is we tried but we haven't drafted well on the defensive side. That's why we are in this position. The imbalance is due to drafting bad. It has nothing to do with only drafting offense. You have to draft better on defensive side.

Gallup was a 3rd round pick. Dak was a 4th round pick. Shultz a 6th round, Collins and Jarwin were undrafted.

Who on the defensive side gives us the kind of productions those guys have given who were picked in late round. Even the guys picked in higher round hasn't given us that kind of productions.
 
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They aren't over invested but have been fortunate to get the value they have at WR.
With Noah Brown and Ced Wilson playing well WR is easily the deepest and best position on the team.
But only 1 guy is on a non-rookie contract.
It's a cheap group aside from Cooper.
Gallup and CeeDee were ridiculous draft values.
 

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I'm not sure what you are trying to point out. My point is we tried but we haven't drafted well on the defensive side. That's why we are in this position. The imbalance is due to drafting bad. It has nothing to do with only drafting offense. You have to draft better on defensive side.
Yes I agree. But you have to continue trying. This thread was about not using that draft capital with our 1st pick this year instead another shiny wheel on offense.
 
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