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Dak and the offense disappeared for two quarters today.
The Cowboys offense disappeared after a turnover by Dak and then another by Zeke- and stayed gone for the second and third quarter.
Now, you can blame the defense- and I'm sure Mike Nolan is getting walking papers ready for a few "hotboyz" holdovers that don't fit his scheme, but we repeatedly see Dak fold when the pressure is on.
He didn't even seem to try until they got a couple of breaks against the prevent defense.
As usual, he pads his stats against prevent defense, but if the Browns had not been kind enough to drop a few of Dak's passes, this game might have gotten even further out of hand.
Why do the Cowboys continue to struggle now that Garrett is gone? Because his philosophy is too engrained in too many holdovers from the last ten years.
Nolan will get the defense under control. By mid season or sooner the kinks worked out. Next off season there will likely be a mass exodus of players that don't fit Nolan's scheme.
But the Garrett 2.0 quarterback is still shutting down under pressure. And he's actually pretty good if he would just hang in there through the struggles. But he doesn't.
You saw it yourself again today.
Clueless, with all due respect of course.
 

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Dak and the offense disappeared for two quarters today.
The Cowboys offense disappeared after a turnover by Dak and then another by Zeke- and stayed gone for the second and third quarter.
Now, you can blame the defense- and I'm sure Mike Nolan is getting walking papers ready for a few "hotboyz" holdovers that don't fit his scheme, but we repeatedly see Dak fold when the pressure is on.
He didn't even seem to try until they got a couple of breaks against the prevent defense.
As usual, he pads his stats against prevent defense, but if the Browns had not been kind enough to drop a few of Dak's passes, this game might have gotten even further out of hand.
Why do the Cowboys continue to struggle now that Garrett is gone? Because his philosophy is too engrained in too many holdovers from the last ten years.
Nolan will get the defense under control. By mid season or sooner the kinks worked out. Next off season there will likely be a mass exodus of players that don't fit Nolan's scheme.
But the Garrett 2.0 quarterback is still shutting down under pressure. And he's actually pretty good if he would just hang in there through the struggles. But he doesn't.
You saw it yourself again today.
Im sorry but if the idea is for the offense to play at a high level and mistake free every game there is never no need for the defense to show up....
 

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The Cowboys Offense still has to constantly drive the ball 70+ yards because of the defense not being able to get turnovers or a stop.
Need talent for that. But sorry guys like Demarcus Lawrence and Jaylon Smith are not talent, they are average players given bloated contracts
 

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Easy, you QB was responsible for fumbling and giving the opponent a short field. Then he and those awesome offense you keep slobbering about decided to take a nice nap for two quarters of the game,

LOL I like how you totally ignore the defense and just blame it all on Dak? Was it his fault too that we gave up 300 yards rushing this game?
 
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Dak and the offense disappeared for two quarters today.
The Cowboys offense disappeared after a turnover by Dak and then another by Zeke- and stayed gone for the second and third quarter.
Now, you can blame the defense- and I'm sure Mike Nolan is getting walking papers ready for a few "hotboyz" holdovers that don't fit his scheme, but we repeatedly see Dak fold when the pressure is on.
He didn't even seem to try until they got a couple of breaks against the prevent defense.
As usual, he pads his stats against prevent defense, but if the Browns had not been kind enough to drop a few of Dak's passes, this game might have gotten even further out of hand.
Why do the Cowboys continue to struggle now that Garrett is gone? Because his philosophy is too engrained in too many holdovers from the last ten years.
Nolan will get the defense under control. By mid season or sooner the kinks worked out. Next off season there will likely be a mass exodus of players that don't fit Nolan's scheme.
But the Garrett 2.0 quarterback is still shutting down under pressure. And he's actually pretty good if he would just hang in there through the struggles. But he doesn't.
You saw it yourself again today.
Blah, blah, blah.

Another guy who has no clue what he is watching
 

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Im sorry but if the idea is for the offense to play at a high level and mistake free every game there is never no need for the defense to show up....

well the really good teams, somehow play without turning the ball over - we saw that with Seattle last week and you saw that today. Notice how the Browns didn’t turn the ball over and out their defense in bad spots and notice how their defense turned the ball over and gave their offense a short field - its complimentary football and the Cowboys don’t play that because we have he overrated offense led by an average QB and and overrated RB and a turnstile of a defense - that 49 points the Browns put up was a joint effort of the offense defense and special teams.
 

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well the really good teams, somehow play without turning the ball over - we saw that with Seattle last week and you saw that today. Notice how the Browns didn’t turn the ball over and out their defense in bad spots and notice how their defense turned the ball over and gave their offense a short field - its complimentary football and the Cowboys don’t play that because we have he overrated offense led by an average QB and and overrated RB and a turnstile of a defense - that 49 points the Browns put up was a joint effort of the offense defense and special teams.

I'll defend Dak for his fumble. Steele got beat cleanly and Dak was stripped as he was throwing. Yes, perhaps Dak should have stepped up a bit in the pocket, but Steele was beat one on one by Myles Garrett. Why he had no help for Myles Garrett on that play is beyond me. Myles Garrett is one of the top pass rushers in the NFL. You NEVER leave a UDFA one on one against a player like Myles Garrett.
 

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LOL I like how you totally ignore the defense and just blame it all on Dak? Was it his fault too that we gave up 300 yards rushing this game?
I am not blaming it all on Dak, who here did not know that the defense would be bad? How does that then absolve Dak of fumbling and putting said bad defense on the field?
 

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I'll defend Dak for his fumble. Steele got beat cleanly and Dak was stripped as he was throwing. Yes, perhaps Dak should have stepped up a bit in the pocket, but Steele was beat one on one by Myles Garrett. Why he had no help for Myles Garrett on that play is beyond me. Myles Garrett is one of the top pass rushers in the NFL. You NEVER leave a UDFA one on one against a player like Myles Garrett.

Daks been fumbling the ball his entire career, this is not some anomaly of three games where he has fumbled the ball.
 

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Daks been fumbling the ball his entire career, this is not some anomaly of three games where he has fumbled the ball.

I know he has had issues of it, but I'm talking mainly about the play today that he fumbled on. That was not necessarily his fault imo.
 

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Dak and the offense disappeared for two quarters today.
The Cowboys offense disappeared after a turnover by Dak and then another by Zeke- and stayed gone for the second and third quarter.
Now, you can blame the defense- and I'm sure Mike Nolan is getting walking papers ready for a few "hotboyz" holdovers that don't fit his scheme, but we repeatedly see Dak fold when the pressure is on.
He didn't even seem to try until they got a couple of breaks against the prevent defense.
As usual, he pads his stats against prevent defense, but if the Browns had not been kind enough to drop a few of Dak's passes, this game might have gotten even further out of hand.
Why do the Cowboys continue to struggle now that Garrett is gone? Because his philosophy is too engrained in too many holdovers from the last ten years.
Nolan will get the defense under control. By mid season or sooner the kinks worked out. Next off season there will likely be a mass exodus of players that don't fit Nolan's scheme.
But the Garrett 2.0 quarterback is still shutting down under pressure. And he's actually pretty good if he would just hang in there through the struggles. But he doesn't.
You saw it yourself again today.

Could you look any more dumb at this point? That's the real question.
 

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well the really good teams, somehow play without turning the ball over - we saw that with Seattle last week and you saw that today. Notice how the Browns didn’t turn the ball over and out their defense in bad spots and notice how their defense turned the ball over and gave their offense a short field - its complimentary football and the Cowboys don’t play that because we have he overrated offense led by an average QB and and overrated RB and a turnstile of a defense - that 49 points the Browns put up was a joint effort of the offense defense and special teams.
The really good teams that have no defense that look like they are really good teams are not really good teams.
 

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sorry, you cannot say “ that is more than enough to win games” - two turnovers that lead to a 14 point swing along with momentum. Not to mention taking a bad defense and adding more stress by making them defensed a short field,
How about OUR defense providing some turnovers to give our offense some short fields? Oh hell, I’d just settle for them getting off the field occasionally without giving up points. What a concept!
 

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You know, it's funny how much better a defense can be when their offense plays 60 minutes, too.
Part of the defense is keeping the opposing team's offense on the bench.
The defense is struggling- that is for sure.
But the offense can help.
It did help. To the tune of 38 points. Maybe our defense could produce a turnover every now and then and keep the offense from driving 80+ yards every time they score.
 

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Sure, there's some problems on O we need to iron out, but there's simply no "buts". This D is one of the worst of all time.
 

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The defense is THE issue. The mistakes the offense has made for the most part can be overcome. The Defense on the other hand might as well not be on the field.

Offense turned it over 3 times today. Teams with negative TO differential win 23% of their games.
 
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