Dalton's numbers aren't encouraging

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Dalton won’t look as good as Dak...but renewed balance in our offense may lead to better results.

Very logical, non biased, smart post. Thank you sir, and I agree. Hopefully Dalton is even better than expected. He is more mobile than given credit for as well. The next question is do I pick him up in my fantasy league?
 

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like our defense...he just needs to be good enough.
:starspin:WIN.THE.EAST.:starspin:
 

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I think he was the best option for a backup QB and applauded them for landing him; however, that was before I knew he was actually going to have to play.

The last 3 years he was in CIN, his TD to INT was 62 to 37. His playoff record is worse, 1 to 6.

The posts about him being an improvement over Prescott are puzzling to say the least, Prescott is the reason they're 2-3 and not 0-5 and our QB talk centering around the draft.

There can be a lot of different reasons for Dalton's record the last 3 seasons or his availability as a backup or having that as his only option but the only way he is going to save this season, and I think the best of that is winning the East, is with a lot of help.

Now, you can say he didn't get that in CIN and I will agree but will he get that in DAL? There seems to be this feeling that everybody will up their game because the backup QB is in and they'll rally and "Win one for the Dakster". All of the sudden, the D will not look like rejects at a Keystone Cops casting call.

This certainly isn't an ideal situation for Dalton and had he known the 2 OT's and C and his backup would be gone, he might have reconsidered this. He does have one thing in his favor, he can use his feet and neither Cassel or Weeden could do that effectively. However, in his last season in CIN, he did fumble 8 times.

The numbers don't tell the entire story but I wonder about where his head is at. He had a terrible last season in CIN. He got benched and was then brought back in and they ended up with the top draft pick and used it to replace him. I wonder if he was looking for a soft spot after a year like that? Take a little bit of the pressure off because it had to be unbearable.

So, if you're looking for drama in this 2020 NFL season, look no further than your Dallas Cowboys. Got a HC looking for redemption and now he has a QB looking for the same thing. Rarely does this happen, two men in the same boat, each needing the other to save them. And it's their first season together and they couldn't be in a worse place. Ain't no hiding in Dallas.

This isn't a rap against Andy Dalton, just some of the facts about his numbers. Players have beaten the numbers before and there is one thing for sure, McC and Dalton do not have to imagine what the other is thinking, they no exactly how each other is feeling. They should have as strong a bond as possible in this short period of time knowing each other.

I am not a numbers guy as much as one that is interested in the human condition. I've been pretty much wrong about that the last few times and centered on that with McC trying to redeem himself but now that has been magnified with his QB needing the same thing. The pain of their teams not wanting them has to still sting and that human condition side of me wonders can that be the magic?

Think about it. The HC is under fire and his old team is off to a great start. The QB's replacement in CIN is already being heralded as a future HOF. They are already distant memories after only being gone a couple of years.

I do believe in that having something to prove but that's in my heart. My mind looks at this team and tells my heart what a fool it is.
Titan fans probably made a similar point about Ryan Tannehill last season before he was named as their starter...that hasn't worked out too badly for them.
 

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1. Zurlein won the Atlanta game with a phenomenal onside kick and then game winner.
2. Dalton engineered the comeback against the Giants. Prescott took 2 quarters off before starting the process of digging the team out of a hole. But Dalton finished it.

3. Maybe Dalton will be our Jim Plunket. He was as good as his supporting cast in Cincy. He's got a better supporting cast now......at least on offense.

You do know the team was ahead and in the red zone when Dak got hurt right? You also might want to go back and watch the game again.. Dak and the Cowboys scored 21 points in the second quarter and were up at the half. And on top of that were on the way for another TD on his first possession of the 3rd quarter. In fact it was Dalton's 3 and out followed by his fumble that let the Giants retake the lead. I am hoping like hell Dalton plays well but as has been stated ad nauseum if we don't run the ball more and get better play from the defense none of it will matter. As I have said before, the QB has not been born who can overcome a defense giving up more than 35 points a game. If that doesn't change, nothing else will.
 

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Before Sunday, Prescott took 7 total snaps from center this season with a lead in four games. When he got hurt, he was trailing again to the ding-dong Giants. Dallas won with Dalton at the helm.
No, they were winning when Dak got hurt and didn't lose the lead until the Dalton fumble. Good effort.
 

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Titan fans probably made a similar point about Ryan Tannehill last season before he was named as their starter...that hasn't worked out too badly for them.

Dak has been significantly better in the NFL than the guy Tannehill replaced. And once they pulled the plug on Mariota the Titans had the good sense to put the ball in the hands of Derrick Henry as often as humanly possible. I would not be opposed to seeing us do the same with Zeke..
 

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I think he was the best option for a backup QB and applauded them for landing him; however, that was before I knew he was actually going to have to play.

The last 3 years he was in CIN, his TD to INT was 62 to 37. His playoff record is worse, 1 to 6.

The posts about him being an improvement over Prescott are puzzling to say the least, Prescott is the reason they're 2-3 and not 0-5 and our QB talk centering around the draft.

There can be a lot of different reasons for Dalton's record the last 3 seasons or his availability as a backup or having that as his only option but the only way he is going to save this season, and I think the best of that is winning the East, is with a lot of help.

Now, you can say he didn't get that in CIN and I will agree but will he get that in DAL? There seems to be this feeling that everybody will up their game because the backup QB is in and they'll rally and "Win one for the Dakster". All of the sudden, the D will not look like rejects at a Keystone Cops casting call.

This certainly isn't an ideal situation for Dalton and had he known the 2 OT's and C and his backup would be gone, he might have reconsidered this. He does have one thing in his favor, he can use his feet and neither Cassel or Weeden could do that effectively. However, in his last season in CIN, he did fumble 8 times.

The numbers don't tell the entire story but I wonder about where his head is at. He had a terrible last season in CIN. He got benched and was then brought back in and they ended up with the top draft pick and used it to replace him. I wonder if he was looking for a soft spot after a year like that? Take a little bit of the pressure off because it had to be unbearable.

So, if you're looking for drama in this 2020 NFL season, look no further than your Dallas Cowboys. Got a HC looking for redemption and now he has a QB looking for the same thing. Rarely does this happen, two men in the same boat, each needing the other to save them. And it's their first season together and they couldn't be in a worse place. Ain't no hiding in Dallas.

This isn't a rap against Andy Dalton, just some of the facts about his numbers. Players have beaten the numbers before and there is one thing for sure, McC and Dalton do not have to imagine what the other is thinking, they no exactly how each other is feeling. They should have as strong a bond as possible in this short period of time knowing each other.

I am not a numbers guy as much as one that is interested in the human condition. I've been pretty much wrong about that the last few times and centered on that with McC trying to redeem himself but now that has been magnified with his QB needing the same thing. The pain of their teams not wanting them has to still sting and that human condition side of me wonders can that be the magic?

Think about it. The HC is under fire and his old team is off to a great start. The QB's replacement in CIN is already being heralded as a future HOF. They are already distant memories after only being gone a couple of years.

I do believe in that having something to prove but that's in my heart. My mind looks at this team and tells my heart what a fool it is.

Dalton is a very good backup. And a guy that can flourish in an offense that gives him great protection. Sadly, our Oline doesn't. He will get killed behind our line.
 

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No, they were winning when Dak got hurt and didn't lose the lead until the Dalton fumble. Good effort.

I continue to be fascinated by the number of people who try to slip in stupid false digs when the facts are so obvious and readily available. Not only were the Cowboys winning when Dak went down, they were driving towards taking a two score lead. Frankly if Dak doesn't get hurt I don't think the Giants stop the Cowboys from scoring again. They had scored TDs on three straight 75 yard drives in the 2nd and 3rd quarter and were wonderfully balanced and dominant in doing so. They scored a TD on a 75 play drive in 35 seconds at the end of the first half. On the drive where Dak got hurt he never saw a 3rd down. The Cowboys were carving up the Giants defense and were heading towards "name your score" territory there in the 3rd quarter. Dalton did some nice things, but he never got the Cowboys into the end zone the rest of the way and that scares me.
 

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Let's hope our 'Boys improve on both sides of the ball, if we're likely to play with Arizona on equal terms. Expect a really tough game.:thumbup:
 

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He may be forced to use those legs to preserve his life. We are not the only ones that know how bad this OL is. The stat hunters will be coming for him with those 2 OT's out and a rookie C.

As bad as this line is, it's better than what he played behind in Cincy the past few years.
 

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Let's hope our 'Boys improve on both sides of the ball, if we're likely to play with Arizona on equal terms. Expect a really tough game.:thumbup:
L'il Kyler is coming back to Texas on MNF after being the most overlooked QB in my recollection and he gets America's Team. This is his coming out party for America.

I think he's probably tired of all the Mahomes, Jackson, Watson, Burrow and Herbert talk. He's the reigning Offensive Rookie of the Year and this past week's NFC O Player of the Week. I think he and his HC are coming to make a statement. He's like a mini Russell Wilson who himself is already a mini.

Ex OU Heisman QB's are already 1-0 against the Cowboys this season.
 

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Dalton made nearly all perfect throws under pressure to help win the game last week...
I think we will see a different level of heat cast upon Dalton once defenses game plan for him and attack his tendencies. It's going to look very familiar to what Dak faced in 2017.
 

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he Cowboys were carving up the Giants defense and were heading towards "name your score" territory there in the 3rd quarter. Dalton did some nice things, but he never got the Cowboys into the end zone the rest of the way and that scares me.

That's true, but most teams bringing in a "cold" quarterback into a game where his team has a lead will pull in their horns a bit, at least. The NFL overall is a conservative league, "sit on the lead" happens a lot, even in these days of high scoring offenses and rules leading it that way.

Well probably find out this week, I expect Kyler to carve up this defense at will, Dalton and the Cowboys won't be able to play too conservatively....
 

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I think he was the best option for a backup QB and applauded them for landing him; however, that was before I knew he was actually going to have to play.

The last 3 years he was in CIN, his TD to INT was 62 to 37. His playoff record is worse, 1 to 6.

The posts about him being an improvement over Prescott are puzzling to say the least, Prescott is the reason they're 2-3 and not 0-5 and our QB talk centering around the draft.

There can be a lot of different reasons for Dalton's record the last 3 seasons or his availability as a backup or having that as his only option but the only way he is going to save this season, and I think the best of that is winning the East, is with a lot of help.

Now, you can say he didn't get that in CIN and I will agree but will he get that in DAL? There seems to be this feeling that everybody will up their game because the backup QB is in and they'll rally and "Win one for the Dakster". All of the sudden, the D will not look like rejects at a Keystone Cops casting call.

This certainly isn't an ideal situation for Dalton and had he known the 2 OT's and C and his backup would be gone, he might have reconsidered this. He does have one thing in his favor, he can use his feet and neither Cassel or Weeden could do that effectively. However, in his last season in CIN, he did fumble 8 times.

The numbers don't tell the entire story but I wonder about where his head is at. He had a terrible last season in CIN. He got benched and was then brought back in and they ended up with the top draft pick and used it to replace him. I wonder if he was looking for a soft spot after a year like that? Take a little bit of the pressure off because it had to be unbearable.

So, if you're looking for drama in this 2020 NFL season, look no further than your Dallas Cowboys. Got a HC looking for redemption and now he has a QB looking for the same thing. Rarely does this happen, two men in the same boat, each needing the other to save them. And it's their first season together and they couldn't be in a worse place. Ain't no hiding in Dallas.

This isn't a rap against Andy Dalton, just some of the facts about his numbers. Players have beaten the numbers before and there is one thing for sure, McC and Dalton do not have to imagine what the other is thinking, they no exactly how each other is feeling. They should have as strong a bond as possible in this short period of time knowing each other.

I am not a numbers guy as much as one that is interested in the human condition. I've been pretty much wrong about that the last few times and centered on that with McC trying to redeem himself but now that has been magnified with his QB needing the same thing. The pain of their teams not wanting them has to still sting and that human condition side of me wonders can that be the magic?

Think about it. The HC is under fire and his old team is off to a great start. The QB's replacement in CIN is already being heralded as a future HOF. They are already distant memories after only being gone a couple of years.

I do believe in that having something to prove but that's in my heart. My mind looks at this team and tells my heart what a fool it is.
I’m glad we have Dalton- he’s arguably the best backup in the league, although people acting like we just upgraded at QB are not accurate IMO.

Coach, I think the challenge Dalton will face from now on will be what I think DCs are going to throw at him with this depleted OL. Everyone acting like we’re going to be able to run the ball more are just wishing on a well. I think defenses are going to stack the box heavy to stop the run and blitz the hell out of Dalton in obvious passing downs. They’re going to dare him to beat them on his own.

Dalton is good, but is he capable of carrying an offense without a good D? I don’t know because in Cincy in his best years, he had the good fortune of having a salty defense that he will definitely not have here. Can Dalton sling it around all day and win? We’re about find out. Because this patchwork OL is not going to be able to impose their running game will on anyone.
 

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You couldn't make a good OL out of combining them.
The Cards offense has hit nearly 500 yards 3 times this season. We’re going to have to score 35-40 to win unless the defense can force lil Kyler into some mistakes.
 

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he's played one game in relief. imo, he played pretty well. the last two passes to gallup were outstanding. don't know why naysayers are already trying to eviscerate him. dandy andy deserves a chance. at least wait until he's played one game as a starter.
 

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Having an experienced quarterback like Dalton isn't all gravy, teams have years and years of game film to watch, so they have a pretty good idea as to how to attack the Cowboys with him behind center. Of course Dallas will make at least some changes to the offense I'm sure, which means defenses can't just go with the game plan they would have used with Dak totally.

In any case, we don't have a choice, Dalton will be under center come Sunday, barring a freak injury, so we'll certainly find out...
 
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