Video: There is no massive gap between Dalton & Dak

[Bullflop]

Dak had the lead when he got hurt genius. Any other dumb comments?

Seemed like we were behind to me but to be totally honest, I was sad to see Dak go down with a compound fracture. Did you cry?

Anyhoo, I love to keep indulging in meaningless repartee with you indefinitely but there's games on and I'm curious what I've been missing by wasting time with you. Later, happy!

 

[RonnieT24]

Dez was awesome at getting the ball, but a lot of that was Tony being able to throw those. Not every qb can throw those types of passes as well as Tony did. Maybe that is why Dak did not do that with dez. He throws them to Gallup, but Gallup has more tools than dez as far as separation, running routes better, and ability at reading defenses

Dez never played the same after his injury in 2015, and that was before tony left.

I dunno about that.. Dez was pretty damn dominant in that playoff game against the Packers. 9 catches for 132 yards and 2 TDs. He also went over 100 yards in 3 of the first 6 games he ever played with Dak that year but he tailed off as the injuries piled up. Not much of a surprise that after basically getting two weeks off before that playoff game he balled out in the playoffs. Frankly I think the current version of Dak would be GREAT with Dez. If for no other reason than he trusts his arm and ball placement more now which would lead to Dez becoming a threat to hit 100 catches and 15 TDs. The fact that no team has picked that dude up is absolutely a testament to the fact that NFL teams do NOT put winning first no matter how much they claim. Dez Bryant after two years of rest is not on the outside of the top 100 receivers in the world looking in. I suspect at this point he would land somewhere in the top 30-40 range.

 

[RonnieT24]

Dak was doing nothing until games got out of hand and he started just doing what NFL QB's do against prevent defenses like Wentz saw yesterday against Baltimore.

But Dak is leading an offense that is averaging over 15 points in the first half. Leading the offense to better than 2 TDs a game in the first half is "doing nothing?" You might wanna take a gander at how many points the defense has been giving up in the first half if you want to see what "doing nothing" looks like.

 

[HungryLion]

But Dak is leading an offense that is averaging over 15 points in the first half. Leading the offense to better than 2 TDs a game in the first half is "doing nothing?" You might wanna take a gander at how many points the defense has been giving up in the first half if you want to see what "doing nothing" looks like.

The offense scoring 15 points in the first half only seems like not enough because the defense gives up 20+

 

[dsturgeon]

I dunno about that.. Dez was pretty damn dominant in that playoff game against the Packers. 9 catches for 132 yards and 2 TDs. He also went over 100 yards in 3 of the first 6 games he ever played with Dak that year but he tailed off as the injuries piled up. Not much of a surprise that after basically getting two weeks off before that playoff game he balled out in the playoffs. Frankly I think the current version of Dak would be GREAT with Dez. If for no other reason than he trusts his arm and ball placement more now which would lead to Dez becoming a threat to hit 100 catches and 15 TDs. The fact that no team has picked that dude up is absolutely a testament to the fact that NFL teams do NOT put winning first no matter how much they claim. Dez Bryant after two years of rest is not on the outside of the top 100 receivers in the world looking in. I suspect at this point he would land somewhere in the top 30-40 range.

So, gallup had 1k+ last season, and is on his way to this season. Amari had 1k+ last season, and on his way this season. Ceddee is on his way to 1k+.

And you want to bring back an old WR with 3 1k seasons out of 8, and has had injuries, who couldn't separate when he was healthy?

not to mention wilson looks good

 

[RonnieT24]

Because you have too run it in since you can't pass it in.

The one where you're oblivious to the glaring hole in the offense in certain key situations.

I looked it up.. Dak has 56 red zone TD passes in his career and 7 interceptions. Over half his 106 TDs have come in the area where you are arguing he can't throw it. I'd love to hear your explanation for this.... He also has 24 TD runs in his career. All of those have been less than 20 yards as well as I recall. He also caught one last week.. so 81 red zone TDs in his career.. and a top 3 scoring offense over the past two seasons. As well as a top 10 red zone offense. "Glaring hole?" In your logic perhaps.. but not in this offense.

 

[RonnieT24]

So, gallup had 1k+ last season, and is on his way to this season. Amari had 1k+ last season, and on his way this season. Ceddee is on his way to 1k+.

And you want to bring back an old WR with 3 1k seasons out of 8, and has had injuries, who couldn't separate when he was healthy?

not to mention wilson looks good

Nice strawman.. I made no mention of wanting to bring anybody back. I merely stated that this version of Dak would mesh better with Dez's game than rookie Dak. I am happy with the receivers we have, though it would not hurt this team to have a red zone beast like Dez now that you brought it up.

 

[dsturgeon]

Nice strawman.. I made no mention of wanting to bring anybody back. I merely stated that this version of Dak would mesh better with Dez's game than rookie Dak. I am happy with the receivers we have, though it would not hurt this team to have a red zone beast like Dez now that you brought it up.

My mistake. If dak can throw the back shoulder throw now, do you think Gallup would be that far of a drop off from how dez did it?

 

[Brax]

Werent you one of the guys a few month ago wanting to get rid of Dak and go for a full blown rebuild?

LOL.....and hoping we lose isnt a plan, its just a personal wish. I certainly wouldnt coach my team that way.

I also wouldnt be stupid enough to contemplate cutting a top 10 QB. Something you have been doing for years on here.

Lets not forget that you were telling me how good Dak wasnt when I was telling you how obvious it was the guy was franchise material.

You were using words like backup/average/bus driver. Dont talk to me about smart. LOL[/QUOTE]
No not one of the lets rebuild never was, also not one of the Dak is top QB fantasy group. I didn't say back up at any time you injected that spin, I said good/average depending on the quality of the opposing defense but bus driver may be appropriate considering all the capital expended to elevate his game. I believe he is not worth top $$$ hence the lets see what he really is worth to team view and go from there, we all also know Jerry will make the call and we all know his QB talent evaluation skills. Enjoy the game even though you football bias and low acumen may make it hard to judge fairly. .

 

[RonnieT24]

My mistake. If dak can throw the back shoulder throw now, do you think Gallup would be that far of a drop off from how dez did it?

On the back shoulder and the jumpball I doubt Gallup will ever get to the level Dez did. He's just not strong enough nor does he possess the kind of vertical Dez did. However he is a far more polished receiver. That's the thing about guys like Dez. Because his game was not predicated on speed he could play at a decent level until age 40. At some point the hops would go but until that point the jumpball or the post up and make the defender work through me route would be easy money to Dez for another decade. Gallup, by virtue of being the more technically sound receiver will be in a position to continue to play at a high level for a long while too. My only question about him is what happens when HE loses a step. He's fast but not burner fast. He's strong but not Dez strong. He does do a nice job on contested balls though. You can't teach that. I hope he doesn't demand #1 money when his contract is up. He's in the perfect position as the #2 in Dallas. Very little pressure.. almost never getting doubled or drawing the #1 corner. In two years after we let Coop walk Lamb will be the new #1 and Gallup will still be in that position. I hope we keep him.

 

[Philmonroe]

But Dak is leading an offense that is averaging over 15 points in the first half. Leading the offense to better than 2 TDs a game in the first half is "doing nothing?" You might wanna take a gander at how many points the defense has been giving up in the first half if you want to see what "doing nothing" looks like.

DakBoys still with the okey doke. These lame offense y'all hype up goes big expletive stretches without doing jack spit. Stop it. For the O to put up these inflated numbers the D has to stop teams at some point of the game where is the O then? They are chilling doing their long unproductive drives thing. We all know the D is bad but you DakBoys are on the sauce hyping this O up based on fugazy numbers.

 

[Proof]

On pace against poor D's so just stop, how did he do against the G men D, 166 yards, yeah he lit them up. Guess we know who the dumb one is.

lol is this a joke? He left the game in the third (about to score again) and and caught a td instead of throwing one lmao. Knock it off

 

[RonnieT24]

DakBoys still with the okey doke. These lame offense y'all hype up goes big expletive stretches without doing jack spit. Stop it. For the O to put up these inflated numbers the D has to stop teams at some point of the game where is the O then? They are chilling doing their long unproductive drives thing. We all know the D is bad but you DakBoys are on the sauce hyping this O up based on fugazy numbers.

This incoherent babble does nothing to disprove the simple fact that the offense is scoring 15.4 points per game in the first half. Then has to average 20 in the second half because the defense has failed to hold up its end of the bargain in the least. The facts say that the offense is #3 in the NFL in scoring and the defense is #32 in stopping the other team from scoring. You can spout all the Dak-hate you want and it will do nothing to change the fact that the offense is putting up points at a franchise record pace while the defense is making sure it doesn't matter because they are giving up points at an even higher pace. You Dak-haters can tie yourselves in knots trying to claim the offense is the problem.. but you just end up looking stupid when you do so. The unit that is top 5 in the league cannot be blamed for the failings of the unit that is bottom 5. I mean if you're going to argue that they offense "only shows up when the other teams start playing soft" then why is it also not the case that the defense only gets stops when the other teams take their foot off the gas pedal on offense?

 

[Proof]

I just figured it was classic projection

After reading their comments about Dalton it's crystal clear they have a deep hatred for red headed white quarterbacks

So many ginger dog whistles in this thread.

I wonder what horrible societal role model emboldened them to think and act this way. Very sad

lmao. I actually appreciate this. Well done

 

[Proof]

This incoherent babble does nothing to disprove the simple fact that the offense is scoring 15.4 points per game in the first half. Then has to average 20 in the second half because the defense has failed to hold up its end of the bargain in the least. The facts say that the offense is #3 in the NFL in scoring and the defense is #32 in stopping the other team from scoring. You can spout all the Dak-hate you want and it will do nothing to change the fact that the offense is putting up points at a franchise record pace while the defense is making sure it doesn't matter because they are giving up points at an even higher pace. You Dak-haters can tie yourselves in knots trying to claim the offense is the problem.. but you just end up looking stupid when you do so. The unit that is top 5 in the league cannot be blamed for the failings of the unit that is bottom 5. I mean if you're going to argue that they offense "only shows up when the other teams start playing soft" then why is it also not the case that the defense only gets stops when the other teams take their foot off the gas pedal on offense?

I’m really enjoying your posts, but you’re wasting your energy with this guy. He’s not interested in any sort of intellectually honest conversation. No matter how well thought out and presented.

 

[RonnieT24]

I’m really enjoying your posts, but you’re wasting your energy with this guy. He’s not interested in any sort of intellectually honest conversation. No matter how well thought out and presented.

Oh I am well aware that dude is just looking to troll. Sometimes I roast trolls for sport.. when it amuses me to do so... Most of the time I do just ignore them..

 

[Proof]

Oh I am well aware that dude is just looking to troll. Sometimes I roast trolls for sport.. when it amuses me to do so... Most of the time I do just ignore them..

I wouldn’t even call him a troll. Just truly incapable of critical thought

 

[Philmonroe]

This incoherent babble does nothing to disprove the simple fact that the offense is scoring 15.4 points per game in the first half. Then has to average 20 in the second half because the defense has failed to hold up its end of the bargain in the least. The facts say that the offense is #3 in the NFL in scoring and the defense is #32 in stopping the other team from scoring. You can spout all the Dak-hate you want and it will do nothing to change the fact that the offense is putting up points at a franchise record pace while the defense is making sure it doesn't matter because they are giving up points at an even higher pace. You Dak-haters can tie yourselves in knots trying to claim the offense is the problem.. but you just end up looking stupid when you do so. The unit that is top 5 in the league cannot be blamed for the failings of the unit that is bottom 5. I mean if you're going to argue that they offense "only shows up when the other teams start playing soft" then why is it also not the case that the defense only gets stops when the other teams take their foot off the gas pedal on offense?

If you can reply this much your de claims of incoherent babble is bs Zo. You can spout all the Dak love you want they were 1-3 with him so who cares unless you want him as your fantasy QB. I don't hate Dak just think he's average. If that's hate nowadays from your types so be it. Using your wannabe smart logic regarding the D I won't disagree because I'm not trying to hype them up like you with the O. Maybe you and your new online buddy @Proof can go get a room to discuss how I'm a troll because y'all looking for a role model in an average QB and offense.

 

[Proof]

If you can reply this much your de claims of incoherent babble is bs Zo. You can spout all the Dak love you want they were 1-3 with him so who cares unless you want him as your fantasy QB. I don't hate Dak just think he's average. If that's hate nowadays from your types so be it. Using your wannabe smart logic regarding the D I won't disagree because I'm not trying to hype them up like you with the O. Maybe you and your new online buddy @Proof can go get a room to discuss how I'm a troll because y'all looking for a role model in an average QB and offense.

I said I don’t think you’re a troll. Just that you refuse to concede anything ever.

 

[Vtwin]

Honestly...........its too dumb of a question to even bother answering. Here we are with Dak breaking the NFL record for most passing yards in the first 4 games of the season. The guy is throwing for 450 yards and 4 TD's. And here you sit talking about something stupid like "quick hitch passes"?

Why arent you talking about the historically worst defense in NFL history? Since you have such a keen eye for criticism? One would think your nit picky personality would be all over the defense. And why arent you? AGENDA maybe?

So you are saying you don't think it matters if a QB can't throw the passes that every other good QB can. Interesting take.

Go look at the thread title. Why would I talk about the defense? What does the defense have to do with the options the offense has when it has the ball?

Pure deflection simply because you don't want to give an honest answer to the question.

Classic troll behavior.