Prescott and cap considerations

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Here is an ESPN :espn: article and there are many others online projecting NFL revenue losses in the Billions. Fan attendance at football games represents 20-25% of league revenue. The salary cap is tied to league revenue. So this absolutely impacts the Dak negotiations and player salaries in 2021. I've seen projections showing the cap going from where it is now at 198M all the way down to 130M. How do we sign Dak to what he wants if the caps going down 50M+?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ure-salary-caps-central-nfl-talks-sources-say
 

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Wasn't there talk about possibly having a non growing cap next year and the following year(s) as needed to make up for the potential loss in revenue?
I think it's a huge TBD right now depending on how long the season plays out for too.

I doubt the NFL will have a drastic drop in cap ceiling
 

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Hey on the plus side our entire defense is the worst in the history of the league. So a crashing cap will force other teams to cut some good players and we can rebuild much faster.

Sort of like playing cards. We can throw our entire hand in and get a fresh draw.
 

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Wasn't there talk about possibly having a non growing cap next year and the following year(s) as needed to make up for the potential loss in revenue?
I think it's a huge TBD right now depending on how long the season plays out for too.

I doubt the NFL will have a drastic drop in cap ceiling

The cap is directly tied to a % of league revenue. The only way the cap doesn't go down is if the owners agree to eat the billions in revenue losses. Thats not happening. The cap is absolutely going down. The question is over how many years will the loss be spread out. Thats what the NFLPA is negotiating.

Another wildcard, TV ratings are down 10% from last year. Its only a matter of time before advertisers start asking for lower costs. TV is the majority of league revenue. So, a 10% cut would have huge cap implications on its own.
 

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Everyone will be in the same boat. Players are going to get offered less.. going to be a lot of unhappy players. With D-Law and Elliot and some others sucking up most of the cap space we may be able to sign Dak and our draft picks. Lol. Going to be skimpy.
 

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Here is an ESPN :espn: article and there are many others online projecting NFL revenue losses in the Billions. Fan attendance at football games represents 20-25% of league revenue. The salary cap is tied to league revenue. So this absolutely impacts the Dak negotiations and player salaries in 2021. I've seen projections showing the cap going from where it is now at 198M all the way down to 130M. How do we sign Dak to what he wants if the caps going down 50M+?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ure-salary-caps-central-nfl-talks-sources-say
Dak will take the First deal the Cowboys put in front of him in the off-season.

Dak and the Cowboys have been damaged by this injury. They will both give on demands....only DiNucci can change the contract parameters
 

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Hey on the plus side our entire defense is the worst in the history of the league. So a crashing cap will force other teams to cut some good players and we can rebuild much faster.

Sort of like playing cards. We can throw our entire hand in and get a fresh draw.
But what makes you think this outfit know how to sign any good FA unless the haven't played football in years??

We are in trouble
 

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IF ESPN knows it, you damn well bet Stephen Jones is well aware also. Pretty sure he has it figured out. In fact, I think I remember saying they've already budgeted for Dak's projected deal. Remember it's a multi-billion dollar franchise.....these kinds of things won't catch them by surprise w/o plan A, B and/or maybe C.
 

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The cap is directly tied to a % of league revenue. The only way the cap doesn't go down is if the owners agree to eat the billions in revenue losses. Thats not happening. The cap is absolutely going down. The question is over how many years will the loss be spread out. Thats what the NFLPA is negotiating.

Another wildcard, TV ratings are down 10% from last year. Its only a matter of time before advertisers start asking for lower costs. TV is the majority of league revenue. So, a 10% cut would have huge cap implications on its own.

I don't see network revenues or deals being affected at all.......too players ( networks ) waiting for a chance to broadcast games ( Apple, Google ( own You-Tube) and Amazon are a few mentioned in an article)
 

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Guaranteed teams will be forced to renegotiate their highly-salaried players' contracts and bring them down IF the cap goes drastically down for the next several years. If players refuse to lower their contracts, get ready to see lots of good players cut. At the same time, this lowered cap will force Dak to accept much less whether it's with us or any other team, especially with his fresh injury rehab worries. This might work in the Cowboys favor to be able to sign Dak to a much cheaper deal.
 

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Here is an ESPN :espn: article and there are many others online projecting NFL revenue losses in the Billions. Fan attendance at football games represents 20-25% of league revenue. The salary cap is tied to league revenue. So this absolutely impacts the Dak negotiations and player salaries in 2021. I've seen projections showing the cap going from where it is now at 198M all the way down to 130M. How do we sign Dak to what he wants if the caps going down 50M+?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ure-salary-caps-central-nfl-talks-sources-say

It’s already agreed upon that the salary cap can’t get any lower than 175...and that’s absolute worst case scenario. It will most likely be higher.

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...-at-175-million-due-to-covid-19-pandemic/amp/

And the owners are losing revenue...as in profit...they aren’t losing $ any year operating an NFL team. The owners refused to open their books and show the players for a reason, there’s plenty of $ about. Not saying it doesn’t suck for the owners too, it sucks for everyone involved, but there could certainly be worse things tha. operating an nfl team that doesn’t generate tons of $ for just 1 year
 

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The good news is the cap will be down for everyone, so its not like some random team will be able to come along and offer dak some crazy number.

What gets ignored is the cowboys cap situation for 2021 isn't that great. As of right now, who knows what the nfl will do, but the cowboys are showing to be around 25 million under the cap. Tagging dak alone puts the cowboys way over the cap, and that is assuming it stays put.

I know the cap can be manipulated, so cap gurus feel free to tell me where I am wrong on the subject, but is tagging dak even realistic?

I'm assuming to do so we need to restructure contracts of guys like dlaw, tyron smith, jaylon, zeke, etc which just makes it harder to move on from those guys in the long run doesnt it?
 

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It’s already agreed upon that the salary cap can’t get any lower than 175...and that’s absolute worst case scenario. It will most likely be higher.

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...-at-175-million-due-to-covid-19-pandemic/amp/

And the owners are losing revenue...as in profit...they aren’t losing $ any year operating an NFL team. The owners refused to open their books and show the players for a reason, there’s plenty of $ about. Not saying it doesn’t suck for the owners too, it sucks for everyone involved, but there could certainly be worse things tha. operating an nfl team that doesn’t generate tons of $ for just 1 year

That is not the case. Revenue is revenue. That has nothing to do with profit. The salary cap is tied to revenue not profit. Going from an expected 2021 cap of 210M to 175M is a huge hit that greatly impacts veterans looking for new contracts this offseason. And certainly will impact Dak.
No where in your article is there reference to an increase in the salary cap.
 

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That is not the case. Revenue is revenue. That has nothing to do with profit. The salary cap is tied to revenue not profit. Going from an expected 2021 cap of 210M to 175M is a huge hit that greatly impacts veterans looking for new contracts this offseason. And certainly will impact Dak.
No where in your article is there reference to an increase in the salary cap.

I dont think anybody actually reads the articles. Oh Stephen knew all about it, we have factored dsks salary in, we have restructured salaries already etc.
Nobody knew what the cap would be until it was agreed as per the article. The idea that the Jones knew the cap figure 6 months ago is laughable.
Here is the cap figures per team. Cowboys are a tad under $173m . Now I'm sure a cap guru can explain this better, but if the cap is 175m how can we afford Dak?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/
 
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But what makes you think this outfit know how to sign any good FA unless the haven't played football in years??

We are in trouble
Then sign a bunch of guys that haven't played football in years. It will be cheaper. :)
 

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I dont think anybody actually reads the articles. Oh Stephen knew all about it, we have factored deals salary in, we have restructured salaries already etc.
Nobody knew what the cap would be until it was agreed as per the article. The idea that the Jones knew the cap figure 6 months ago is laughable.
Here is the cap figures per team. Cowboys are a tad under $173m . Now I'm sure a cap guru can explain this better, but if the cap is 175m how can we afford Dak?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/

Well, that is certainly the question. Lots of restructuring and cuts....... free agents will be looking at smaller deals..........just my guesses.

Once they have the lost revenue number, they'll figure something out b/c all teams are in the same boat.......
 

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Everyone will be in the same boat. Players are going to get offered less.. going to be a lot of unhappy players. With D-Law and Elliot and some others sucking up most of the cap space we may be able to sign Dak and our draft picks. Lol. Going to be skimpy.

Yep. We'll probably see free agents taking one year deals to reenter free agency next season.
 
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