Will Jerry get rid of McCarthy at end of the year or drag his feet?

[gimmesix]

He stuck with Garrett for a decade. McCarthy will at least be given the 4 years to prove himself.

Not necessarily. I think progress will be necessary for him to make it four years.

Holding it against Jerry for not getting rid of him after this year is unrealistic. Almost every coach that took over a team before this pandemic-marred season is struggling because they weren't given much time to implement changes. McCarthy's plan was to not make many changes on offense so that he could rely on that as a strength while the defense faced a learning curve, but then he lost his center, both starting tackles and his starting quarterback.

There is a reasonable expectation for coaching overcoming injury, but expecting a coach to overcome those injuries while trying to get the defense up to speed on a new system is expecting way too much. That's not excusing the defensive coaches for the defense performing this poorly, but it creates a level of understanding for why McCarthy isn't having success this year.

The bar will be raised next year, probably to making the playoffs if we have our QB back, and if McCarthy doesn't reach it, then his opportunity to lead this team should end. If he reaches that, then the bar should be set higher for a couple of years, where he is expected to contend for Super Bowls.

 

[nightrain]

Not necessarily. I think progress will be necessary for him to make it four years.

Holding it against Jerry for not getting rid of him after this year is unrealistic. Almost every coach that took over a team before this pandemic-marred season is struggling because they weren't given much time to implement changes. McCarthy's plan was to not make many changes on offense so that he could rely on that as a strength while the defense faced a learning curve, but then he lost his center, both starting tackles and his starting quarterback.

There is a reasonable expectation for coaching overcoming injury, but expecting a coach to overcome those injuries while trying to get the defense up to speed on a new system is expecting way too much. That's not excusing the defensive coaches for the defense performing this poorly, but it creates a level of understanding for why McCarthy isn't having success this year.

The bar will be raised next year, probably to making the playoffs if we have our QB back, and if McCarthy doesn't reach it, then his opportunity to lead this team should end. If he reaches that, then the bar should be set higher for a couple of years, where he is expected to contend for Super Bowls.

Unfortunately, Jones has no one to hold him accountable as GM and he is his team's biggest fan. Always quick with excuses and support for poor performances, it usually takes him much longer than more competitive teams in the league to figure out change is needed. It's not that he doesn't want to win, he stubbornly doesn't want to be be wrong. Inability to quickly recognize and fix mistakes is a killer in the NFL.

 

[DuncanIso]

AB was fired for conduct reasons. Simply deciding someone isn't as good at their job as you hoped is not "cause".

"Cause" refers to violations of policy … ethics, code of conduct, company procedures etc … not the employers miscalculation of a person's job skills.

incompetence is a cause for firing.

 

[Majic]

One of the biggest myths in the NFL is that Jerry wants to fire coaches when things don't go well. In reality the opposite is true.
Mac will get a year 2, but there must be progress

 

[IceStar-D7]

I think he'll keep him for 5 to 10 years. Better get ready for more Garrett years minus Garrett

 

[LifetimeBoysFan]

The common denominator I see in all of this is the lack of production on the field. I just don't think it would matter if we had "the Hoody" on our sideline right now, or Vince Lombardi. The talent is well below league average on defense in an offense minded league. That's not a good recipe for success.The defense has been an afterthought for a long time, wether it was Garrett or McCarthy on the sideline. If you want to knock McMcarthy the GM for hiring Nolan as defensive coordinator, I'm with you there. I don't think we would be complaining about McCarthy if Dak was healthy and maintained the pace he was on to start the season if we'd of had an average to above average defense. I'm not sure how that would have ever been possible with Nolan leading the charge and having players that wouldn't start on an average defense in this league though. The fact that we were on pace to put up 33 points a week and are sitting here with two wins (one by fluke) should further illustrate where the problems lie.

 

[Cowfan75]

He stuck with Garrett for a decade. McCarthy will at least be given the 4 years to prove himself.

Agree. Jerry is already in love with Nolan, and we are seeing the worst Cowboys defense of all time. It's a tragic comedy, this organization.

 

[OmerV]

incompetence is a cause for firing.

Incompetence is a "reason" for firing. "Cause" is a legal term, and you are misusing it.

Any employee can get fired at any time, but if there is a continued contractual obligation the employer is still responsible for that unless the employee violated the terms of the contract or company policy. That's what we were talking about. If McCarthy got fired after one season simply because Jerry doesn't think he is doing a good enough job Jerry would still have a financial obligation to satisfy.

 

[Loso86]

I think you have to give him another year or 2, to change this ship completely. His players his style his locker room

 

[DuncanIso]

https://sports.yahoo.com/what-its-like-to-be-fired-as-an-nfl-coach-201550343.html

 

[DuncanIso]

I think you have to give him another year or 2, to change this ship completely. His players his style his locker room

the ship wasn’t broken before he took the job.

Jason’s teams were never this bad.

 

[Asklesko]

No of course not. Jerry's new hoss is not even broken in yet.

 

[DuncanIso]

Incompetence is a "reason" for firing. "Cause" is a legal term, and you are misusing it.

Any employee can get fired at any time, but if there is a continued contractual obligation the employer is still responsible for that unless the employee violated the terms of the contract or company policy. That's what we were talking about. If McCarthy got fired after one season simply because Jerry doesn't think he is doing a good enough job Jerry would still have a financial obligation to satisfy.

Big Mike is incompetent.

so is Nolan.

Jerry has money to burn.

a legal definition is not going to save them ...

 

[DuncanIso]

I think you have to give him another year or 2, to change this ship completely. His players his style his locker room

jerry Jones is 78.

Net worth is 8.6 billion dollars

big Mike is lucky if he makes it through bye week.

 

[SlammedZero]

Why does he need to get fired? He started coaching a new team, that is extremely devoid of talent on the defensive side of the ball, and that stacked up massive injuries. Not to mention during a season with no preseason and very limited training camp. I think he deserves at least another year to implement his plan and system.

Some of you guys........ A new coach would come in next year and start 0-2 and "FIRE THIS COACH" threads would pop up, I swear. haha

 

[OmerV]

Big Mike is incompetent.

so is Nolan.

Jerry has money to burn.

a legal definition is not going to save them ...

You are changing your argument now. Your argument was that Jerry could get out of the contract. I never disputed that Jerry could go get another coach as long as he was willing to eat McCarthy's contract.

In any case, he won't get another head coach. Nolan might be in jeopardy, but McCarthy isn't going to get fired after one season.

 

[Loso86]

the ship wasn’t broken before he took the job.

Jason’s teams were never this bad.

Oh there were some HUGE cracks which were about yo break. And he had 10 years to do nothing. This team just isnt use to being coached hard

 

[Loso86]

jerry Jones is 78.

Net worth is 8.6 billion dollars

big Mike is lucky if he makes it through bye week.

If so then cool, but I doubt it

 

[DuncanIso]

You are changing your argument now. Your argument was that Jerry could get out of the contract. I never disputed that Jerry could go get another coach as long as he was willing to eat McCarthy's contract.

In any case, he won't get another head coach. Nolan might be in jeopardy, but McCarthy isn't going to get fired after one season.

Jerry can get out of it easy.

fire Big Mike for cause. Incompetence.

jerry has some good lawyers. He took on the NFL.

big Mike doesn’t have enough cash to fight back.

It’s personal for Jerry.

it will be fun to watch.

 

[DuncanIso]

Why does he need to get fired? He started coaching a new team, that is extremely devoid of talent on the defensive side of the ball, and that stacked up massive injuries. Not to mention during a season with no preseason and very limited training camp. I think he deserves at least another year to implement his plan and system.

Some of you guys........ A new coach would come in next year and start 0-2 and "FIRE THIS COACH" threads would pop up, I swear. haha

2-5 is a good reason to fire an incompetent HC.

just saying.